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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2009-11-12 10:11 pm
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Dear Yuletide Writer

Dear Yuletide Writer,

Hi! I love you. Thank you for volunteering for one of my crazy fandoms, and thank you in advance for the story you will write for me.

Below, I provide you with lots and lots of details because that's what I always hope to get, but if that's not your thing, just know that I am insanely squicked by animal and child harm or death, and go along your merry Yuletide way. We will meet again on December 25th!

Me (Abridged)


If you're curious about what I like in fan fiction, feel free to have a look around. I do a lot of recommending, and if it's recommended here, I loved it. Also, I can't shut up - well, ever, about anything, but most especially about the works I love. So there will be plenty of revealing and possibly even exposing verbiage for you to wade through, if that's your chosen method of Yuletide procrastination. (I know it's something I do every year. I was heartbroken the year I got assigned someone with a totally locked LJ, because how was I supposed to waste time?)

But if you are a better, less procrastinate-y person then I am, here's a cheat sheet.

I love:
  • Happy endings.
  • Humor.
  • Good grammar and spelling.
  • Snappy dialog.
  • Plot.
  • Point of view.
  • Smut people have to work for, through relationship-building or world-saving or whatever.
  • Many, many other things.
My major squicks are:
  • Animal and child harm or death. These are my absolute deal-breaker squicks; I can't deal with them at all.
  • Embarrassment and humiliation.
  • Misogyny and abuse of women within the plot or narrative. (I say that because at least one of the characters I requested could be expected to be a misogynist, and I'm fine with that, but I am distressed when the narrative or plot goes there, too.)
  • Incest. (This really should not be an issue with any of my requests, but, hey, I figure warning is always good.)
  • Sex involving children in any way, which really goes under child harm, but, again, warning is always good.
If you are looking for more information on what I want, or if you want to check a specific point or whatever, feel free to consult [livejournal.com profile] best_beloved or [personal profile] norah. They know me. They really, really know me.

My Fandoms


R. M. Meluch - The Tour of the Merrimack

[livejournal.com profile] brown_betty induced me to read the first of the four books in the series, and I read it in, like, a day, and then spent the weekend twitching and whimpering because I could not immediately read the other three. This fandom has it all - a semi-psychotic totally brilliant canonically bisexual super-sarcastic cyborg! A noble, larger-than-life, Official Designated Hero space captain! And they are bitter enemies forced to work together to save the universe! And the captain is mysteriously drawn to the cyborg!

Actually, looking at it now, I realize that this fandom was just prepping me for reboot Trek, and, by extension, original Trek. These characters are what you would get if you made Spock decadent and sort of crazy, and Kirk - um, actually, you just have to keep Kirk pretty much as-is.

Anyway. I fully acknowledge that this series has many flaws (I'm looking at you, "romance" of Kerry Blue and T. R. Steele, which made me, as I read the series, want to email R. M. Meluch and offer her two sessions of psychotherapy on my dime), stereotypes and misogyny out the ass, and a certain biased outlook on life that will be abundantly familiar to anyone who reads military SF written in English. I don't care. I love this series, I read it compulsively, and I would read a million more books in it tomorrow.

And at least half of that love is because of Augustus and Farragut. (The other half is pacing and plot.) Meluch is obviously one of those women who should have found slash fandom at least thirty years ago, but she's doing her best without it, soldiering on by writing original slash in military drag. So, really, anything you write with these two would be great, especially if it is happier, or at least not wholly focused on the Inevitable Unhappy Ending. You can keep it at the level it hits in the books (oh my god, that KISS), or you can scale it up any number of notches, or you can left-turn into gen. I would love it if they went on an adventure or had a problem to solve or encountered a classic SF trope.

And if Augustus/Farragut doesn't do it for you, I would be equally happy with Augustus gen, particularly if you do some world-building for the Roman Empire.

Casablanca - Rick Blaine/Sam

I love this movie, but who doesn't? The feel! The characters! The twisted humor! The DIALOG, oh my god, the dialog. (I am a dialog person from way back - even now, when I start writing fan fiction, I often write the dialog first and everything else later - and I think I actually swooned the first time I saw this movie.) I mean, the whole Rick/Ilsa thing was kind of boring, but everything else just filled my little heart with joy.

And, okay. I know all about how this could be the start of a beautiful friendship. But there's another beautiful friendship in this movie, and that's the pairing that has always drawn me, especially since, as I said in my details, Sam is so very much a cipher in this movie - we get absolutely none of his motivation or thoughts or, just, anything. (As far as I know, he doesn't even get a last name.) And yet he's so obviously Rick's oldest, most loyal friend. He so obviously has some kind of pre-existing relationship with Ilsa, too. He was there to pick up the pieces back in Paris, and he's been with Rick ever since, and I just - I would like to know MORE.

I really don't care where you set this - before, after, during the movie, whatever, it's all good - but I would love, so very much, to see more Sam, and more of his relationship with Rick. Or, if you prefer, his relationship with Rick and Ilsa. Obviously I believe that there was some behind-the-scenes red-hot sexing between Rick and Sam, but you don't have to go to the smutty place unless you just want to. Sam, and his point of view, and his motivations (and maybe getting him some of the snappy dialog for a change) - these are the things I most hope to see. Red-hot sexing would just be gravy.

Motherlover (music video) - blond dude/brown-haired dude

(If you didn't sign up for this one, Yuletide Writer, and you don't know what it is, I encourage you to go watch it: Motherlover, uncensored. NOT SAFE FOR WORK. As unsafe for work anything has ever been without featuring a giant cock rampaging through the downtown and wrecking buildings and fucking Godzilla. Watching this might make you think less of me, but, well, this is who I am. Better we go into this relationship honestly, with our eyes open, right?)

I - I don't really want to talk about this. I know it's wrong. (So, so wrong.) But this song and its video got me through some massively unpleasant times this year, and I love it wholly and completely, every last transgressive second of it. I cannot even get over how brilliantly wrong this is. Most people could not pack this much line-crossing and craziness and crack into 200,000 words, and these guys managed it in four minutes.

So what I'm hoping for, here, is just MORE. More crack! More crazy! More of these guys being the wonderful sleezebuckets they so obviously are! (And, just to be clear, I know these dudes are played by two guys named Andy Samberg and Justin Timberlake, but, really, I could not care less about THEM. I definitely want FPF and not RPF, here.) Feel free to use my prompt about their changing relationship, if you want (something obviously happened between Dick in a Box and Motherlover; I'm just saying), or go in some other direction altogether. As long as it makes me laugh (and especially if it makes me laugh while covering my eyes and moaning at the wrongness), I will be a happy, happy Yuletider.

RPF - 18th-19th c Arts and Sciences - Charles Baudelaire

Since I asked for this last year, and every year since Yuletide started, I think, I'm just going to cut and paste from last year's letter.

There's a reason why I always put this request fourth: it's certifiable. Or maybe I am. But still. I love Charles Baudelaire so much, and I find the world he describes in his poetry so fascinating, and I would love to see a story about him, especially if it's set in the world his poetry describes. (And, by the way - she wasn't in the character list, but if you want to include Jeanne Duval, by all means DO.) If you want to throw in a crossover, well, Angelus from the Jossverse seems obvious to me; in the Angel episode She he makes it clear he knew Baudelaire, and frankly that explains so much. But do whatever! The choice is yours!

I have no single favorite translation of his works; I think most of the translators rocked some of the poems and totally failed on others, so I kind of pick and choose. However, in case you're unaware of it, there is an awesome resource for Baudelaire's poetry online: fleursdumal.org. You can find translations of all the poems here, and there's at least one good one for almost all of them. I whole-heartedly recommend it.

(Oh, and I should note: I don't speak French. I know, I know, I'm totally pathetic, reading Baudelaire in translation. I own it. My point is - a realistic, period Paris background is desirable; I've done enough reading about Baudelaire that I would love that. But realistic language would be kind of a problem, since, you know, I couldn't read it.)

And, well - in general I love lighter, happier stories with happy endings. I crave the happy! Except here. Baudelaire's story is not happy, and neither is his ending, and I would in no way want you to change that. Go to town - go for creepy, go for tragic, go for crazy. Whatever you feel works. (Just, I know with Baudelaire it's tempting, but if you could try hard not to hurt animals or children, that would be awesome. Feel free to abuse Baudelaire all you want.) I will read with gratitude and wonder, and I will fully appreciate it, because Baudelaire's story is totally a lush, insane tragedy.
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[personal profile] torachan 2009-11-13 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
I really, really hope someone writes you Motherlover fic!
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[personal profile] bimini_road 2009-11-13 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, what he said above!

Dear Yuletide writer,

Please note that is you choose to take on the Motherlover boys you will not only bring joy to your tfv, but to many, many, many other people as well.

<3
a totally random person.
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[personal profile] bimini_road 2009-11-15 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
*wins* \o/
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[personal profile] azurelunatic 2009-11-13 08:17 am (UTC)(link)
Dear Yuletide Writer,

Motherlover is the kind of pure awesome wrong crazy this is just so right. I recommend it. If you start at "This shit is so wrong it's hard to make it worse", and then start digging, you may be on the right track. Perhaps try dynamite; I hear that softens up the rock bottom so you can keep digging it a little deeper.

<3,
a loyal reader, reviewer, and reccer of Yuletide stories
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[personal profile] tevere 2009-11-13 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
AHAHA-- I had no idea these two did something after Dick in a Box! I think this just made my day-- and if there is fiction about it, it will make my year.
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[personal profile] thingswithwings 2009-11-13 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
aw, Baudelaire fic! I never knew that I wanted it until just now! If you don't get it this year, I'll have to remember to sign up to write it for you next year. :)
thingswithwings: these books won't read themselves! probably. (gen - these books won't read themselves!)

[personal profile] thingswithwings 2009-11-13 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
haha, alright, I will see what I can do! You definitely deserve not to be the subject a default, and if this request is the unlucky charm that's doing it, I can probably step up. I'll just have to do a little research first, is all. :)
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[personal profile] umbo 2009-11-13 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I love reading yuletide letters in general, especially from my friends, but, dude, if I hadn't read this one I might not have ever seen that video, and that would be sad! Thanks for requesting it, and for posting the link :-)
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[personal profile] florahart 2009-11-13 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't be the only one hoping that your writer doesn't write you Motherlover fic solely so it remains on the treats list and a BUNCH of people can write it.
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[personal profile] toft 2009-11-14 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
I'm delighted that you requested Casablanca fic! And I'm going to watch the Motherlover video RIGHT NOW.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2009-11-14 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
Your brain?

Totally freaking awesome.

[identity profile] marycrawford.livejournal.com 2009-11-13 09:17 am (UTC)(link)
Heya, that Motherlover video is not accessible to me (and probably not to anyone outside the US) so here's a link to it on YouTube as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RGfZpOomvrk

Kinda crappy quality, but every other video I saw seems to just have a still of the guys with music over it. Wonder if SNL tends to crack down on people?

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2009-11-13 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, man, it never occurred to me that site might be inaccessible to our overseas loved ones! Thank you for digging up the link. *hugs*

[identity profile] abcfangirl.livejournal.com 2009-11-14 11:22 am (UTC)(link)
Here's another link, the quality is good: http://www.gametrailers.com/user-movie/snl-mother-lover-uncensored/318432 I am in Australia so it is watchable outside the US.

Thank you for introduce this craziness to me :D
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[personal profile] aurora 2009-11-13 09:21 am (UTC)(link)
Motherlover (music video) - blond dude/brown-haired dude
....I love you so much right now.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2009-11-13 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I love your icon so much I could die of it.
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[personal profile] aurora 2009-11-14 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
Hah, I kinda forgot I had it till I started replying to this post. I should use it more often. *nods*

[identity profile] merelyn.livejournal.com 2009-11-13 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh my god, Motherlover. The fic I didn't know I needed until right now. ♥

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2009-11-13 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Judging by the number of people who want Motherlover fan fiction, there should have been dozens of requests for it! Apparently this is an unmet need in fandom. *g*
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[identity profile] shayheyred.livejournal.com 2009-11-13 05:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure how I missed the Motherlover vid as a fandom, but had I seen it, I too might have listed it. You are, indeed, insane, and it's so WRONG, but if wanting this is wrong, I don't wanna be right, dog.
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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2009-11-13 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I can tell you how you missed it: OVER THREE THOUSAND FANDOMS. I went through everything on a spreadsheet and probably still missed stuff.

And I agree: wanting it probably IS wrong, but I find I am perfectly okay with being wrong in this instance.

[identity profile] delurker.livejournal.com 2009-11-14 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
I missed my own request first time I went through the list. *facepalm*

[identity profile] dine.livejournal.com 2009-11-13 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
oh, I SO hope that you (and by extension, I) get R. M. Meluch fic. I've loved her novels, which are *totally* "original slash in military drag", since I stumbled across them back in the 90s. if you haven't already, I encourage you to track down her older (out-of-print) paperbacks. most of them are cracky, angsty, slashy and often contain actual relationships of some sort, not merely UST, and you can totally see the genesis of the Merrimack series

of course, the notion of something based on the Motherlover video has completely intrigued me as well

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2009-11-13 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been wondering if it would be worthwhile to buy her other books secondhand! Any specific recommendations?

And, yay, someone else who loves the crack that is the Tour of the Merrimack. (Loving Motherlover appears to be a popular stance in fandom.)

[identity profile] dine.livejournal.com 2009-11-14 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
my personal faves of her older stuff are:
Sovereign, Chicago Red, and The Queen's Squadron.

I know I've read her other titles, but can't remember enough about Jerusalem Fire or War Birds to recommend them, and have absolutely no memory whatever of Wind Dancers or Wind Child, so they obviously made no impression

just FYI, there are some heavy elements (physical/sexual suffering and Stockholm Syndrome) in some of these, and some relationships are definitely not, at least initially, healthy or consensual, but they've definitely stuck with me. you might find it worth investing a buck or so if you see them used (half.com probably has copies if there's no used bookstore handy)
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[personal profile] lorem_ipsum 2009-11-15 06:59 am (UTC)(link)
Meluch writes so very much excellent crack.

Sovereign - some "offscreen" events in early chapters might push one's boundaries re child sexuality, and (iirc) there is animal harm. And then the book takes a really unexpected left turn and becomes Star Trek pastiche with bisexual sluttery and h/c.

Chicago Red - are there *any* healthy relationships in this book? But again Meluch delivers the crack. This one is about a post-apocalyptic America suffering under a tyrranical king, with a fun mashup of historical references.

The Queen's Squadron - This book is a bit of a mess. Penetanguishene/wossname is so very, very wrong. (I don't want to be right!) &heart;

I love War Birds. It is the least slashy of her books that I've read, but quite charming and funny and a little cracked out. Also, anyone who has a *thing* for WWI and/or WWII will be entertained by the whole ace fighter pilot thing.

[identity profile] rushthatspeaks.livejournal.com 2009-11-14 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
As far as Baudelaire goes-- have you read Angela Carter's short story 'Black Venus'? Can be found in her complete collected, which is called Burning Your Boats. It seems to be pretty much exactly what you're looking for, Jeanne and all.
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[personal profile] reginagiraffe 2009-11-17 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!
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Song mentioning Baudelaire

[personal profile] filkferengi 2009-11-18 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
[livejournal.com profile] adamselzer was an English major, & sometimes it shows. I love this one because it mentions Baudelaire, Verlaine, & Rimbaud, and I was a French major.

Adam Selzer--Geeks Gone Wild In Chicago! 09 One Man's Poetry (live).mp3
http://www.sendspace.com/file/aqdst7

(Anonymous) 2009-11-20 05:43 am (UTC)(link)
You don't know me, since I am the lurkiest lurker ever to lurk, but, um, just in case your Yuletide writer makes the biggest mistake of their lives and inexplicably chooses NOT to write Motherlover fic for you? I plan to write it for you as a New Year's Resolutions story, as a personal thank you for being the person to show that video to me.

*wipes tears of hilarity and wrong from her eyes*