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Entry tags:doctor who, star trek, stargate: atlantis, stargate: sg-1, vids, white collar
Best Beloved recently pointed out to me that it had been approximately seventeen years since I had recommended anything, which had of course triggered the inevitable thing where I am reluctant to write up a recommendations post because it's been so long since I've done one. You all know how this goes. She suggested I ease myself into it with vids. Happy vids.

She was, as always, right. Here are some happy vids, and pretty soon I might even remember how recommending works! I think - I think there is cake involved?

I might be wrong about the cake, actually.

The One That I Always Remember as Being NC-17, and Then I Rewatch It and Realize That It Is Merely Suggestive. Very, Very Suggestive. Let's Misbehave, by [livejournal.com profile] greensilver. White Collar.

Okay. I have read stories in this fandom - not, you know, all of them or anything, but some. Many, even! And this vid is, like, 45% of them. This is a vid with plot, and the plot goes like this:

Neal: I am exceptionally pretty.
Peter: Yes, you are. I might wish you weren't, but it's a fact and I'm prepared to put it on any number of affadavits.
Neal: Also, cute.
Peter: Yeah, but I've got to point out that it's the kind of cute where sometimes I want to smack you.
Neal: That's all just part of my charm.
Peter: The hell of it is that that's true.
Neal: And did I mention that I'm talented?
Peter: I already knew that, actually.
Neal: Face it, you can't resist me.
Peter: Let me just remind you about my wife.
Neal: You're in luck! I'm good with other people's wives.

Neal: So. Hi. Peter loves you, you know.
Elizabeth: And I love him, so that's something you and I have in common.
Neal: Did I mention that I am exceptionally pretty?
Elizabeth: You didn't need to. I have eyes.
Neal: But I would never want to come between the two of you.
Elizabeth: Well that's a pity.
Neal: Oooo. I think you're about to make me an offer I won't refuse.
Elizabeth: No, I'm going to make that offer to Peter.
Neal: Great! But, uh, if you're caught, I will disavow all knowledge.
Elizabeth: Like hell you will.

[And then they all have sex.]

So compelling is the force of this vid that even I think Neal is pretty for the duration of it. (I'm sorry, but under normal, non-this-vid circumstances, Neal looks like a not-especially-attractive ferret to me. I mean, okay, fine, a kind of cute ferret, but definitely the sort of creature you want to a) pat on the head and b) keep in a cage. Yes, fine, the line to cut me dead starts over there.) And that makes me notice that Elizabeth (who is absolutely not only pretty but hot) and Neal look a lot alike. And they have some similar body language. Hmmmm. Perhaps Peter has a type? IT MIGHT BE. WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THIS. (Hint: start by watching this vid.)

The One That Answers the Age-Old Question: Where Do Good Past Incarnations Go? The Tenth Doctor Musical, by [livejournal.com profile] di_br. Doctor Who.

Okay, I am guessing by the fact that this thing has almost 500 comments on LJ and more than 50k hits on YouTube that everyone has already seen it. I do not care. There might be someone out there who hasn't. That alone is reason enough to rec this.

Because, oh my god, this is just - just - well. I don't want to spoil it or anything, but there was a point, right before Nine rolled his eyes (and I was right there with him, of course), that I had a laughter-induced hallucination. (And here it is, for the people who have seen the movie of Bridget Jones's Diary: I saw the tenth Doctor in his pajamas, using a hairbrush as a microphone, singing All By Myself until he broke down weeping helplessly on the TARDIS's control panel. And here's the thing: I am absolutely, completely convinced that he's done this. We just need to get the footage out of the TARDIS somehow. Anyone have an in with her?)

I love this vid. I love every single thing about it. I love the idea that there's a Home for Old Doctors where they can watch the latest incarnation's exploits ("I tell you what, I would never have done that. In my day we knew the value of a blooping tube of blue goop.") and brood all moodily and be harassed by babies and have a cup of tea. I love the bonus track at the end, which, seriously, I have no idea what's going on there, but it is fucking scary, even so. I love the bits with Jack and the Master. I love Martha's theme song, which is so obviously her theme song I don't know why I never realized it before.

I even love being rickrolled. Pretty much.

The One That Makes Me Say, Every Time, "They - Had a Wizard of Oz Episode? Or a Costume Party Episode? Seriously, What the Fuck?" High School Never Ends, by Gab, aka [livejournal.com profile] milena_d. Gateverse.

It took me a lot of rewatching to figure out just why this vid works so well for me - because it does, it so totally does, and yet usually this kind of concept doesn't. But I persisted in my viewings - it wasn't actually a hardship - until I realized that actually, this vid is a celebration of the somewhat doofy but always entertaining physical acting (if, um, that's the term I want) of the many people of the Gateverse. And that is - it's just wonderful. It's physical comedy! In vid form!

But it's so much more than that. It's also filled with sly meta commentary on the shows and their fandoms, and, even more than that, a lot of love for the Gateverse and everyone in it. One of the things that I love about vidding is that for me, it's the fanwork type that can most easily just be a giant explosion of love for the fandom. There are vids that are, totally obviously and clearly, OMG SQUEEEEEEEEEEEE <3 <3 <3 set to music. And how can you not love that? How can you not love it when someone not only draws metaphorical hearts with her name and the fandom's name in it, but does it while hitting the beat?

(I am guessing that if you're better with faces and people than I am, fanart probably accomplishes the same thing. But - okay, this is a totally honest example of the way my brain sometimes fails with fanart. There is a very famous series of drawings in an older fandom, and someone linked to them on my friends list a while back, so I looked at them. And then I went to get Best Beloved, because when I'm that kind of lost, usually the problem is that my brain is malfunctioning. And we had a conversation that went, in part:

Me, showing her one of the drawings: ...And I just don't get it, I guess. I mean. How is this fannish?
BB: What do you see?
Me: A tiger.
BB: Do you see the guys in front of the tiger?
Me, trying to fake it: Um. Maybe?
BB: Do you see the one guy's penis, and how the other guy is sort of going for it?
Me, stunned: There's a penis?
BB: HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THE PENIS?
Me: It's a really confusing picture!
BB: There's two guys and a penis and a tiger! IT'S PRETTY BASIC.
Me, muttering: Not to me it isn't.
BB: I can't believe you brought me in here to look at a penis you didn't even know was there.)

The One That Makes the Best Use of Lens Flare I Have Yet Seen in a Vid. The Test, by [personal profile] heresluck.

Probably you have already heard about how awesome this vid is. Well, you heard right: it is in fact profoundly awesome. It so profoundly awesome, in fact, that I feel comfortable recommending it, even though right now I have to question my judgment in anything Trek-related. I am still in that unfortunate phase of fandom where I sort of lack - you know, taste. And rational thought. Basically, my flowchart for determining whether or not I love something has a new branch in it, very early on, which looks like this (except of course the actual flowchart is nifty and cool-looking, because my brain does not run in ASCII):

Trek? The kind that has a Spock? ---Yes ---> OKAY I ALREADY LOVE IT

I am - a little obsessed. Just a little. But trust me when I tell you that my obsession is not why I love this vid. There are, in fact, so many moments that I love in it that if I made a greatest bits collection of it, it would be about four minutes long. (If I was allowed commentary in addition to actual clips, it would probably be about three hours long. This is why I don't ever try to do a frame-by-frame analysis of a vid; two years in and I'd still be at 0:45 and I'd already have said, "But it's, you know, SO INCREDIBLE, because" seven million times.)

I will say this, though: I was absolutely, completely sold on this vid in the first 35 seconds. AND THEN IT GOT BETTER. And then it got better again! It was like a matryoshka doll set, except made entirely of joy; I kept thinking I'd found the pure brilliance at the center, but no! There was always more joy still to come.


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livrelibre: DW barcode (barcode)


[personal profile] livrelibre
2010-05-23 05:23 am UTC (link)
It always makes me so happy to see your recs:) And that is exactly how that White Collar vid and a good chunk of the fandom goes and is why I love it so. Also, I need you torec the things you think everyone has seen because often, like with the Who vid, I have not seen it. (I keep thinking I need to watch Who and then I get distracted). . .). And The Test is that brilliant!

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2010-05-23 06:53 am UTC (link)
Yay! Thank you.

And, really, that is exactly how a good chunk of White Collar fandom goes, and that is indeed why I love it. And I also love it because they are ADULTS in bed together. I mean, they actually act like grown-ups a lot of the time! It's weird, but I could get used to it.

I am so glad I recommended the Who vid; there are indeed people who have not seen it, and that is WRONG. (There are jokes you will miss because you don't know the fandom, but there are jokes I miss because I haven't seen any of Ten's run (or Eleven's). It still works! It is still awesome!)

And The Test, of course, is Just That Brilliant. Really, she should have used that as the summary.

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dira: The Tenth Doctor, masked with a bandana. (Ten - Masked Man)


[personal profile] dira
2010-05-23 05:34 am UTC (link)
Me! I AM THE ONE PERSON WHO HAD NOT SEEN TENTH DOCTOR: THE MUSICAL! Thank you thank you thank you for reccing it! <333333333333333333

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2010-05-23 06:54 am UTC (link)
I am pleased that I could be instrumental in rectifying the GRAVE ERROR on the part of the universe that resulted in you not having seen the Tenth Doctor Musical. It turns gray skies to blue!

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fish_echo: stick figure holding a beaker and the text: stand back, I'm going to try SCIENCE!  (Misc-stand back: SCIENCE!)


[personal profile] fish_echo
2010-05-23 06:36 am UTC (link)
Whee! I have not seen any of these yet, probably because I never actually watch vids. Well, that's a lie. It's just that I don't ever actually download vids and that interferes with vidwatching. I don't even know how vids get on my computer-- maybe I download them in my sleep?-- but sometimes they magically appear there and then I watch them. But my point is, these look like good candidates for accidental magical downloading :)

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2010-05-23 06:55 am UTC (link)
These are totally candidates for accidental magical downloading! Notify your coterie of fairies or brownies or whichever tiny magical creature is in charge of internet-related activities!

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[personal profile] scy
2010-05-23 07:44 am UTC (link)
Yay for recs!

I love White Collar partly because it IS a show about adults who are for all intents and purposes in a three way relationship, and they all KNOW it, and are working together on it. It's lovely, and sweet, and complex too.

The Trek vid? I think I said in my feedback that the vid has that feeling of looking over the edge of a cliff and then say 'okay, let's go' and then you go over, and *whoosh*. It's just so-*FLAILS* It's one of my favorite, and so gorgeous on many levels. It ties together the 'verses, and gives you both a reminder of what has happened and a preview of what MIGHT, because the 'verse is different, but Spock and Kirk are together, and that always leads good places.

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2010-05-23 03:11 pm UTC (link)
I think I said in my feedback that the vid has that feeling of looking over the edge of a cliff and then say 'okay, let's go' and then you go over, and *whoosh*.

That is an AWESOME description.

Spock and Kirk are together, and that always leads good places.

THIS IS A TRUE, TRUE FACT. You have just described a cornerstone of my fannish belief system!

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[personal profile] calvinahobbes
2010-05-23 07:59 am UTC (link)
This was the first thing I saw when I woke up this morning! And I was (also?) that ONE person who had not seen the DW vid. The minute it started I realized I'd read someone else's description of it and thought "nooo! sad!" and avoided. But then you made me watch it anyway, and the ending nearly killed me! Thank you!

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2010-05-23 03:14 pm UTC (link)
So not sad! That vid is made of happy! I am very, very glad I rec'd it, because it turns out several people had not seen it, and everyone everywhere should. *nods firmly*

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[personal profile] anotherveronica
2010-05-23 08:19 am UTC (link)
My favorite part of the White Collar vid is when Neal demonstrates with cups how their relationship will work. "See, Elizabeth, you can be the Starbucks cup, and I'll be the mug, and then you'll go over here and Peter will be this one over here. Okay? Okay!"

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2010-05-23 03:16 pm UTC (link)
OMG yes! Although honestly I cannot pick a favorite part. But that part is wonderful, and it must have been accompanied by exactly that dialog.

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[personal profile] ratcreature
2010-05-23 08:53 am UTC (link)
Why is there no link to the picture of "two guys and a penis and a tiger"? I'm really curius now.

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[personal profile] feanna
2010-05-23 12:57 pm UTC (link)
THIS!

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goodbyebird: Buffy: Anya and Willow are mesmorized, "If you'll excuse me, I'm having a fangirl moment." (Excuse me while I fangirl)


[personal profile] goodbyebird
2010-05-23 09:49 am UTC (link)
Reccing: you've still got it.

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2010-05-26 07:00 am UTC (link)
Awww, thank you. *beams*

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[personal profile] watersword
2010-05-23 12:16 pm UTC (link)
It was like a matryoshka doll set, except made entirely of joy.

This is what fandom is, dude.

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[personal profile] queue
2010-05-23 02:25 pm UTC (link)
What it should be, anyway. Yes.

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[personal profile] heresluck
2010-05-23 12:41 pm UTC (link)
I woke up to a surprisingly crowded inbox because of this lovely rec. Thank you!

Also: SPOCK. I ♥ Spock. I am pretty sure that this is how I managed to end up making a Kirk-POV vid when it's really Spock that I adore; it is possible that I overidentify with Kirk falling for Spock. Just slightly. Ahem.

Also, this:

It was like a matryoshka doll set, except made entirely of joy

is one of the nicest things anyone has ever said about any of my vids. ::beams at you::

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[personal profile] feanna
2010-05-23 12:56 pm UTC (link)
White Collar is just so easily delightful and the OT3 totally jumps off the screen!

I know only very little about Dr. Who, but I totally smiled at that vid sometimes. Especially at the ending when 10 comes in and goofily smiles at 9.

That Trek vid makes me smile like the complete lunatic that I am. Especially the ending. Because KirkandSpock totally belong together forever and ever and always.

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[personal profile] reginagiraffe
2010-05-23 02:41 pm UTC (link)
I love ALL OF THESE and had seen NONE and they're all AWESOME, so you have successfully increased the joy in the Universe.

Do you actualy want an explanation for the Wizard of Oz thing?

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tzikeh: (white collar - peter - neal)

ya think?


[personal profile] tzikeh
2010-05-23 05:19 pm UTC (link)
that makes me notice that Elizabeth (who is absolutely not only pretty but hot) and Neal look a lot alike.

Ya think?



(this picture is briefly animated. If you miss it, you can just right-click and view the image in a separate tab or window)

Keep your eyeline (if you can) on - eye shape, bone structure of the nose and cheeks, shape of the chin (not jawline; his is broader), and breadth and roundness from the browline to the crown of the head (her hair covers most of it). The problem I had was compromising lining up features for scale of the still, but really, it's kind of awesomely true.

Perhaps Peter has a type? IT MIGHT BE. WE SHOULD LOOK INTO THIS.

Yes. Yes, we should. Often.

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[personal profile] dragonfly
2010-05-23 06:05 pm UTC (link)
Thank you for that White Collar vid rec! I love it.

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[personal profile] scrollgirl
2010-05-23 06:21 pm UTC (link)
I have to add my own squeee!!! to the High School Never Ends vid rec. That vid is just made of rainbows and kittens! *adores the Gateverse*

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xenacryst: "My fandom has threesomes" - White Collar - Neal, Peter, and El around a table (White Collar: threesome)


[personal profile] xenacryst
2010-05-24 03:57 am UTC (link)
[personal profile] tzikeh pointing me to that vid is pretty much what got me into watching White Collar in the first place. They were going on about WC and the vid on IRC one day, and I finally caved to watch it and said something like, "Well, right then. They're fucking alright." And then proceeded to download the entire season. That vid is So. Much. Fun. *G*

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[personal profile] elaran
2010-05-25 04:42 am UTC (link)
<3333333 for the gateverse link

that song is addictive and THEY ARE ALL SO PRETTY *wants to smoosh them all into a giant hug*

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Random person coming through


[personal profile] dancing_moon
2010-05-26 06:40 pm UTC (link)
There might be someone out there who hasn't

*raises hand*

It was well worth a watch! Thank you for the rec

Really, it's a lovely vid to see now that we're beginning to come a bit into elevens round. All those "Ah, right, that happened then..." moments and the songs, brilliant.

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[personal profile] paxpinnae
2010-06-02 07:11 pm UTC (link)
I was one of the (many) people whose life was barren and "Tenth Doctor: The Musical"-less, so thank you for that!

The Gateverse video was also entertaining, and almost makes me want to watch SG-1 because apparently John Crichton and Aeryn Sun were on that show and no one told me. It actually reminded me a lot of The Smartest People in the World in terms of the "smart, dignified people making complete asses of themselves" factor, so you might want to check that out.

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[identity profile] china-shop.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 05:05 am UTC (link)
Neal: Did I mention that I am exceptionally pretty?
Elizabeth: You didn't need to. I have eyes.


HEEEE! Your dialogue break-down of Let's Misbehave is to die for, just so you know. Also, I'm probably the only person alive who hasn't seen The Tenth Doctor Musical yet, so I'm going to assume the rec is directed at me personally. ;-)

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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 06:56 am UTC (link)
It turns out that - tragically - there were SEVERAL people who hadn't seen the Tenth Doctor Musical. That is sad, and also wrong, and I am just glad I rec'd it before the universe fell out of alignment or something.

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[personal profile] pocketmouse
2010-05-23 05:06 am UTC (link)
Ahahahaha it's like all fanart is a magic eye picture to you, isn't it?

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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 06:57 am UTC (link)
Only some fanart! Some of it I totally get, and I am always so so in love with the stuff I do.

But, yeah, some of it, BB is there patiently pointing out things and I'm just saying, "Wow. I - I didn't know that was there!" and "Seriously? There's come in this picture?"

(And some of it I'm like OH GOD UNCANNY VALLEY LOOK AWAY. Some photoshopped stuff just looks so scary-wrong-bad to me.)

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[identity profile] hannahrorlove.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 05:10 am UTC (link)
I'm sorry, but the cake is a lie.

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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 06:59 am UTC (link)
I'm not even angry! I'm being so sincere right now.

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[identity profile] mecurtin.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 05:15 am UTC (link)
I can't believe you brought me in here to look at a penis you didn't even know was there.

This should be your new journal name, just sayin'.

Is it all line drawings? Or fanart specifically? Not I want to do SCIENCE on you!

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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 07:17 am UTC (link)
This should be your new journal name, just sayin'.

You might be right about that.

Is it all line drawings? Or fanart specifically? Not I want to do SCIENCE on you!

It's - it's hard to explain. It's a style of drawing, and I struggle with it as much in non-fanart as in fanart. It's worst in very detailed, very busy, very line-filled drawings, and worst of all if it's all lines in one color. (So, like, charcoal, sepia, pencil, etc.) I'm just lost; the artist is apparently relying on her audience having an ability I don't have, something that helps people make sense of that kind of jumble.

So what happens is that I'll see part of it, and I'll assume the rest is decoration or whatever, and then I'll discover that the part I was seeing was the background. The foreground is, in these cases, always occupied by people. Who I can only see after BB traces the lines that make them up. (I ask her, "How was I supposed to know those were the important lines? How did you know?" but she can't explain; whatever is going on is as natural for her as it is unnatural for me.) And then sometimes I'll glance away, and when I look back, I can't find the right lines again - I'm back to being lost.

But I am okay with seeing almost all art, even if it doesn't resonate for me. (Art that has incredibly detailed faces, and the body and background are kind of - faded out, undetailed? There are portraits like this - that kind of art doesn't work very well for me, but I know what it's supposed to be.)

And, thinking of it, I am actually better with fanart than with a lot of art, because there's a shorthand and I know it. If the character has sproingy hair and it's labeled SGA, I know who he is! If it's a Trek piece, blue shirt and pointy ears means Spock! And so on.

(As an example of art that does not give me trouble: my icon. I know it's a face, and I can see it. The face is not why I have the icon, but still: I know there is a person there.)

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[identity profile] odditycollector.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 05:23 am UTC (link)
definitely the sort of creature you want to a) pat on the head and b) keep in a cage.
Which is probably another 25, 30% right there.

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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 07:18 am UTC (link)
I am trying to avoid those ones, though. I have a lifetime and per fandom limit on kept-in-a-cage stories. I didn't realize how limiting that would be when I signed the contract!

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[identity profile] svmadelyn.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 05:45 am UTC (link)
Well, Jenn and I had not seen that Doctor Who vid, so YOU WERE CLEARLY SUPPOSED TO REC IT. I have learned never to take it for granted that people have seen amazing things.

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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2010-05-23 07:19 am UTC (link)
OMG I AM SO GLAD I REC'D THAT. How could you SURVIVE without that joy in your life?

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