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At a recent earthling speech therapy session, Amber the speech therapist revealed to me that she had, for the first time ever, planted a garden this year. I told her my first time of planting was last year, and we exchanged the Look. I am not sure if gardeners everywhere exchange this look, or if it's just Southern California ones. It conveys a combination of fear, amazement, and just a tentative hint of delight - tentative because you only really want to be happy about something if you're sure no lives will be lost, and gardeners cannot ever, apparently, be entirely sure of that. I have never lived in avalanche country, but I am assuming this is the same expression you see the faces of tourists there when one goes off.

Amber told me her cilantro was going crazy, and I explained to her the sad truth about the cilantro life cycle (when it goes crazy, it's about to bolt), and we compared the heights of our children and our cilantro (cilantro wins!). We talked about how you can never be really sure how big your zucchini plant will get, largely because zucchinis expand to fill all available space. Hers are currently eating her peas; mine is in a fight to the death with the Persian cucumbers. God only knows what the outcome will be. Zuccumbers? The apocalypse? No way to be sure!

And then I told her what I planted this year. You know you're in trouble when a fellow novice gardener stares at you, stunned by your stupidity.

"It's not my fault," I said weakly. "[Earthling] picked out most of those plants."

It's true, he did. It's also true that I planted them. And let them flourish. And, in some cases, allowed him to plant even more. We are still basically in the wettest, coldest spring I can remember in California. (Although keep in mind that this is relative; by "wettest," I mean that the drought warnings have gone down to only high alert level, and by "coldest" I mean "we mostly haven't had to use the air conditioner yet.") And yet. I have already learned some hard, hard facts about gardening, the kind they never seem to share in gardening books. (My current theory is that this is a form of hazing. "We all know this," the gardening book writers say to each other. "But we're not telling. If they really care about gardening, they will learn the hard way, just like we did." Gardening is one of those sports that only the strong survive, apparently.)

I planted a Juliet tomato this year. Because it was described as an excellent balcony or patio tomato - perfect for container gardening! - I assumed it was a small, modest plant that would grow only in moderation.

This is absolute bullshit, it turns out. What "patio" plant means is "if you plant it in the actual ground, it will act like it just got hit by Lex Luthor's Amazing Supergrowth Ray." If I had listened closely while planting it, I probably could have heard its cries of, "Free! Free at last! TOMATO FAME, HERE I COME."


The Juliet, seeking tomato fame, or possibly fresh human brains to snack on. Yes, I know I borked the spacing again this year. In my defense a) I'm doing better and b) tomatoes appear to expand to fill whatever space you give them, so if I'd spaced them properly, the Juliet would now be the size of Anchorage, Alaska.


Because of my touchingly naïve belief in the Juliet's decorous, restrained nature, I put it in one of the two wolverine-sized tomato cages that survived last year's tomato Armageddon. (This year, I am buying only the bear size. I may be slow, but I can be taught.) It was over the top of it by the start of May, and is now taller than I am and, as you can see, encroaching on the cages of the other tomatoes. My mother, who views my urge to grow tomatoes as perhaps the sole evidence that I am genetically related to her, recently visited and suggested I buy a second tomato cage to train the rest of the Juliet onto. (I would, except when I think "train" I can only picture myself out there with a packet of biscuits and a clicker, and I don't think the tomato plants would respond. If you could teach a tomato plant to heel, someone would already have won a Nobel Prize for it.)

If I had known about the Juliet's ambitions, it's possible I would have reined in the earthling's, at least a little. But he was so determined to buy tomato plants that I'm not sure I would have. I mean, I do remember last year. There was no excuse for planting more tomato plants than I did last year. And yet. I did. With earthling encouragement, yes, but the fault was mine. (This is why we have winter: so gardeners will forget the thorns and terror of the previous year and get cocky again.)

So, yes, we have ten tomato plants in the ground. (We had eleven, but one of them experienced what might have been some sort of tomato disease, but was probably the Juliet, its next door neighbor, using special attack powers to bring it down. The space where the deceased plant was is full, now; the Juliet and its friend across the row have combined to make sure I can never plant anything there.) We have six Japanese eggplants, currently flowering (gorgeous, and worth planting just for that) and setting fruit. We have two large containers full of bean plants. I put the seeds in one of the containers, following the recommended nice, orderly spacing. The earthling put the seeds in the other one, following a plan of his own devising, called "poke some seeds individually into the ground, and then decide it would be more fun to dump a whole handful in at once."


Beans, two weeks after sowing. (Really, I was just looking for a way to entertain the earthling one afternoon.) He planted the ones on the left. Note that they are higher than the ones I planted.


We also have Japanese cucumbers. I do not believe these are actually Japanese, except possibly in the sense of "we found these seeds over here near Kyoto, and we're exporting them all before we lose the island." Japan is simply not big enough to grow these things. (The planet may not be big enough.) There would be no more room for people. Also, I refuse to believe that anyone, anywhere, except possibly someone cackling in some remote mountain laboratory - the kind of person who would make a half-pony, half-monkey monster - would deliberately breed these. They are spiny terrors and clearly plotting something. I planted ours in a small side bed that had previously been given over to volunteer palms. (I fucking hate palm trees. The previous owners loved them. My major plan for the next ten years in this house involves killing all the palms.) It's a really small, narrow bed, so my intention was to put strawberries there, and in fact there are some strawberry plants over at one side, but then the earthling bought the Japanese cucumber seedlings and I had to put them somewhere. I thought they'd probably die anyway, so I just stuck them in the narrow bed in the meantime.


They did not die. The trellis in this picture is about five feet high. Note the cucumbers' proximity to the top of the wall.


In retrospect, I wish I had not put them along the fence that we share with the friendly neighbors. Pretty soon I am going to have to go over there and apologize because our cucumber plants are menacing their incredibly tidy, orderly yard. (These neighbors repaint their gutters and siding every six months and trim their bushes each day. They would never do anything as reckless or chaotic as planting vegetables.) I mean, two weeks ago I put a trellis up for them. (I bought it last year for the beans, but the beans spurned it. It is marketed as a tomato trellis, but I can only laugh hollowly at the news. The tomato plants last year crushed the one near them just for kicks.) The cucumbers are now at the top of the trellis and sending feelers up the concrete wall. If you get close - not recommended - and shift away the lower growth, you find yellow flowers. A lot of yellow flowers. And baby cucumbers. Enough that you will, if you are me, realize that you don't have a lot of use for cucumbers, and you may be in a lot of trouble very soon.

The trouble is coming. I can sense it, rumbling and green out there in the yard. In the meantime, garden questions!

Poll #7140 2011 Garden Questions
Open to: All, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 308


What would be an appropriate "Sorry the cucumbers came beween us" gift for the neighbors?

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Flowers!
31 (10.2%)

Tomatoes.
107 (35.2%)

Why not just give them some cucumbers?
267 (87.8%)

How about something - anything - NOT plant-related?
29 (9.5%)

What should I do about the Juliet and its tomato cohort?

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Stand well back.
85 (28.1%)

Hope for the zombie apocalypse; maybe they'll fight each other to a standstill!
95 (31.5%)

Have you considered sowing the ground with salt? Sometimes the old ways are best.
61 (20.2%)

Get in there with some clippers. If you'd wanted a safe life, you never would have planted a garden.
154 (51.0%)

Kill it. I don't care how. But kill it NOW.
11 (3.6%)

Other. (To the comments!)
14 (4.6%)

Are you growing food this year?

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No. I prefer to get my food from the market, already safely dead.
83 (27.4%)

No. I would if I could, but not this year.
118 (38.9%)

Yes. And I'm scared. Hold me?
19 (6.3%)

Yes, and I'm not scared at all. In fact, I'm going to go buy a Juliet RIGHT NOW.
61 (20.1%)

Let me tell you allllllll about it in the comments.
22 (7.3%)



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tyger: Random pattern from the Re:coded Ultimania, messed with until it's white on a black background. (Kingdom Hearts - pattern)


[personal profile] tyger
2011-05-31 09:44 pm UTC (link)
It's coming on to winter, so there's really not much going on. Also, my mother's the gardener. There are some mysterious seeds and things germinating, but they keep dying. =/ I think she might be trying to plant broccoli? And she says she's gonna do garlic, mmm.

We had tomatos and cucumber (we actually didn't get many cucumbers!) and capsicum and rocket and spring onions at the end of last year, though! Also, there is always the chilli bush.

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-02 03:16 am UTC (link)
Mysterious seeds and things sounds sort of awesome! Although I would check carefully before going into the backyard, myself; what if your mother has managed to get her hands on some dragon's teeth?

Also, a chili BUSH? This sounds WONDERFUL. Tell me more!

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[personal profile] innocentsmith
2011-05-31 10:01 pm UTC (link)
Palm trees are bastards. I am always faintly mystified by people from other climes who seem to think that they are glamorous and winsomely Californian. They are inescapable, is what they are, and there is basically never a time of the year when they are not dropping something on you and everything within hundreds of feet. Including large and heavy branches falling from on high when there's even the slightest bit of wind. Really, only jacaranda trees are in the same league of messiness, and at least those (a) are exceedingly pretty and smell nice, and (b) don't require you to uproot their spawn every two days.

I only have one tomato plant this year, but it has taken up half a five-foot planter box. The only thing that's stopping it taking over the whole box is the mint on the other side. (WTF am I supposed to do with all this mint?)

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[personal profile] peoriapeoriawhereart
2011-06-01 04:00 am UTC (link)
Ice cream. Lamb. Sorta depends on the type of mint.

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[personal profile] montanaharper
2011-05-31 10:16 pm UTC (link)
We've got cherry trees (black and...some other variety) and blackberry brambles, though I keep thinking I need to actually plant a vegetable garden. Year before last the cherries and blackberries were incredibly abundant and I made lots of tasty things with them, including blackberry jam. Last summer, though, the birds got to the cherries before I could, and the blackberries were small (and I was too lazy to go and fight the spiders for them; there are huge spider webs and huge spiders all over the 20ft x 20ft area of wild brambles adjacent to my yard).

I've been considering raised beds for veggies. Maybe I'll start planning that this year and see if I can get it implemented for the next. Assuming, of course, I can avoid duplicating [personal profile] laurashapiro's and [personal profile] sapote's experiences with slugs and deer, respectively. I had no idea how many slugs there were in the Pacific Northwest until this year, when it's been cool and rainy all the way up to June and my lawn is just filled with the huge, disgusting things. (You may be sensing a theme here; I've been seeing slugs that are six to eight inches long, and the most common spiders around my house have bodies the size of a dime and are overall about the size of a silver dollar. Ugh.)

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-02 03:21 am UTC (link)
OMG, CHERRY TREES. I am so envious! It is cherry season here right now, and I buy about $20 worth every Sunday, when we go to the farmer's market. They are always gone by Wednesday. NOM NOM NOM NOM.

And, oh, raised beds! If you can't build your own - I am the opposite of handy - I like the one I bought this year, from Naturalyards. (And if you can build your own, their plan seems simple and foolproof!)

As for the slugs - um, ew. Nature in your neck of the woods seems to be heavily focused on making disgusting things huge. THAT IS NOT HOW IT IS SUPPOSED TO GO, NATURE.

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[personal profile] china_shop
2011-05-31 11:00 pm UTC (link)
My lone tomato took over ALL the space, and even flowered a lot, but produced zero fruit. My six eggplant plants produced one and a half eggplants, and my rhubarb is in need of paramedics. I think it must be safer gardening here than where you are.

It's late autumn. Apparently I need to plant some carrots now, or something...

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[personal profile] jenna_thorn
2011-06-01 02:09 pm UTC (link)
Your tomato may need a friend. Not all variants are self-pollinating.

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[personal profile] minxy
2011-05-31 11:05 pm UTC (link)
Try this recipe for massive use of cucumber (side note: I did not have dried coconut and subbed in some coconut milk, which was excellent!)

Spicy Cucumber and Peanut Salad with Coconut.

It is a surprising and delicious dish, no joke. I ate it like a main course for days.

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-02 03:23 am UTC (link)
NOM. That looks tasty. You've made me eager for the cucumbers to appear!

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[personal profile] riazendira
2011-05-31 11:08 pm UTC (link)
I actually live somewhere that I do a little growing this year! I went into the venture with the healthy attitude that I was playing in the dirt, rather than planting. This has paid off in that it's roughly matched expectations with the actual outcome. Plus, I only put $40 into the whole project, so it should come out to hours of fun for a low low price, even if no actual edibles.

I planted a few flowers (pansies, impatiens, and delphiniums) and some green beans, dill, echinacea, carrots and um... catnip. So far, no signs of the flowers or the catnip, but the dill and the green beans are going strong. The echinacea was an already sprouted bulb, and it's only kinda hanging in there. Everybody told me my catnip would take over, but not yet. The carrots seem to be growing at almost exactly the pace the little packet said they would. My biggest issue has been the darned deer! They ate the tops off my beans. I bought some coyote urine sprinkles (the things you find out exist when you pretend to garden!) and I'm vaguely hoping the beans will now be uneaten and re-grow to since they appear super strength (compared to everything else anyway). Anybody got any more anti-deer tips? (You know, short of shooting them which is a bit too anti-deer for me.)

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[personal profile] jamethiel
2011-06-01 01:29 am UTC (link)
... we don't have dear, but at the last place I lived, we did have kangaroos? We also have eagles that are big enough to take down the kangaroos (... it's kind of cool/gross. The kangaroos are eastern grays, though, so it's not as impressive as you might think) , so hanging a large eagle silhouette suspended on a string (so it moves) between two trees helps. Also scares away other birds.

Other than that, fluttery bits of shiny stuff tied to stakes through the garden? The Japanese have those deer scarer fountains that make a noise, but I've never used them for that purpose.

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[personal profile] chagrined
2011-05-31 11:10 pm UTC (link)
I don't grow food, but my housemates do. I want to learn a little about gardening but it's hard b/c I can't really do many physical labor things.

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-03 06:59 pm UTC (link)
I have no idea what your physical limitations are, but I can tell you there are gardening options for lots of people. (Particularly if they have housemates who might be willing to do any heavy lifting that might be called for.) I myself practice what might be described as low-impact gardening; if it's going to be hard or require lots of time or earthling patience, I just don't do it. The plants will deal or not. And the place I bought my raised bed from has instructions for how to garden from a wheelchair.

My suggestion would be to start with an easy and rewarding plant in a pot (I cannot provide any suggestions on that front, since things I am expecting to be easy and rewarding tend not to be, and things I am expecting to be hard in fact are not), and see if it's manageable. The nice part about gardening is that if it doesn't work out, it's no big deal; you've wasted some dirt and a two-dollar plant. Or you could just plant some seeds! Bush beans don't seem to require anything but dirt and water, and the horror aspect (when they sprout, they SHIFT BIG CLUMPS OF DIRT because they are so huge, and I cannot really convey to you in words how creepy it is) is definitely worth the price of a seed packet.

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[personal profile] copernica3
2011-05-31 11:14 pm UTC (link)
I have one mint plant and backyard envy. *sulks*

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-03 07:01 pm UTC (link)
At least your mint plant is probably not making menacing gestures towards your person! I planted a mint plant on a whim last year. The tomatoes killed it, or so I thought. IT IS BACK. And flourishing to a degree that is frankly alarming, especially given that I can't GET to it. It is behind all the tomatoes, and the only person who can reach it now is the earthling.

Mint: SCARY.

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[personal profile] snacky
2011-06-01 12:05 am UTC (link)
Send the tomatoes to meeeeeeeeeeee!

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-03 07:02 pm UTC (link)
OM NOM NOM WHAT TOMATOES?

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Gardening in fun! and kind of a high-intensity workout...


[personal profile] neotoma
2011-06-01 12:30 am UTC (link)
I repotted most of my bigger plants yesterday, so I am completely sore today.

Celebrity and Super Sweet 100 tomatoes and Big Bertha bell pepper in the Topsy-Turvy planters. Red Robin dwarf cherry tomato in the hanging basket (I recommend you get this variety next year. It's *small* and tidy.) Patio tomato in the large pot.

Four kinds of basil (Cinnnamon, lemon, lime and serrated), lemon veerbena, parsley, Cuban oregano, greek oregano, parsley and thyme in the hanging strawberry pot -- it has been appropriated for use as an herb garden. Bought a sage and a Genovese basil seedling on sale, and planted cilantro seeds. Repotted my second Corsican mint, all of the Nasturium bedding plants, and the Jack-in-the-Pulpit. Looked at Pot-of-Gold varietal of chard, but held off on buying the seeds because that would mean buying *another* pot and more dirt...

I didn't get eggplant this year, because three years of flowers but little or no fruit means I'm finally conceding that my patio is not sunny enough for them. I did get two tomatillo plants this year -- hopefully they'll do well together and set fruit.

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)

Re: Gardening in fun! and kind of a high-intensity workout...


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-06 07:42 am UTC (link)
Is your Topsy-Turvy actually WORKING? I have sprouts in mine, but no actual true leaves. They've just been sitting there, sprouted, for two weeks. I have no CLUE what is going on, except that I am pretty amused that the the tomatoes in the special pot just for them are going nowhere while the tomatoes in the ground are fomenting revolution and putting together a publishing company and so on.

And our eggplants have fruits! Although I planted them on the wrong side of the box, meaning they aren't getting the full benefit of the sun. NEXT YEAR I WILL DO BETTER.

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foursweatervests: Natasha, hidden (burning with delight)


[personal profile] foursweatervests
2011-06-01 12:36 am UTC (link)
There is a third option: none of the gardening books were written by Southern Californians. Think about it; does any place have as good a growing season as Southern California? The expert gardeners in that area probably figured no one would bother buying a book since even the most hapless can produce a tomato or two!

Good luck with the Juliet; it sounds and looks...enthusiastic.

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-06 07:43 am UTC (link)
YOU COULD BE RIGHT. Although that says some unfortunate things about me, since I would LOVE a book that explained to me what the hell I'm doing. I keep having conversations with BB where she says, "Is that supposed to happen?" And I have to admit that I am waaaaaay beyond my own gardening knowledge and have no idea either.

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jamethiel: A white water lily is reflected against dark water (NightLily)


[personal profile] jamethiel
2011-06-01 01:31 am UTC (link)
Tomato chutney! Cucumber pickles! Tomato jam! I can think of about 120 different recipes for variations that would be AWESOME.

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-06 07:44 am UTC (link)
Tomato...jam? That sounds - um. I am pretty sure there is not supposed to be tomato jam. Right? Jam! Or tomatoes! Not both!

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[personal profile] coriana
2011-06-01 01:34 am UTC (link)
See, if I could, I would eat NOTHING BUT TOMATOES. This has been true all my life. (okay, maybe sometimes with bread and cheese, or lettuce, or some other sandwich or salad type concoction, just for variety -- but plain tomatoes fresh off the vine are the best of the best) So I can't really conceive of any reaction to giant killer zombie tomato plants except to rejoice and feast festively. But I guess if your fear is that they will eat your house before they get to producing edible fruit, that might be a trifle inconvenient.
~ c.

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-06 07:45 am UTC (link)
I, too, love tomatoes. And I have a small child who would live on tomatoes if he could. And in fact we are now harvesting tomatoes off the Juliet, and they are DELICIOUS. My fear here is more that we will be happily harvesting and nomming up tomatoes and then one night the plants will form up, break into our house, and throttle us. If you think it couldn't happen, you have not looked at my tomato garden lately.

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[personal profile] laurajv
2011-06-01 01:35 am UTC (link)
it went from chilly and wet to sunny and 90F so quickly here that I think my poor tomatoes are in shock.

my neighbors with the incredibly organized tomato garden seem to have non-shocked tomatoes, though. I wonder how they managed that.

(No really. They have these like 8' tall wooden arbor...things, with chicken wire up the sides, and the tomatoes are trained up the chicken wire with military precision. It's AMAZING.)

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-06 07:46 am UTC (link)
I am impressed with your neighbors. Also a little afraid of them. If my neighbors grew vegetables, they'd look like that. My own garden is - um. Well, as you see, a little more haphazard. I am not of the "pretty" or "organized" schools of gardening.

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[personal profile] avendya
2011-06-01 01:47 am UTC (link)
Happily, I live in an apartment, so I don't feel particularly guilty about buying my plants pre-killed. I suppose I could try balcony gardening (I'm not that far north of you, and get great sunlight -- much as I hate Los Angeles, the constant sunlight is nice, although I can't actually tell the difference between the weather now & the weather in March -- which is probably why I keep thinking it's still March). I am highly skeptical about my ability to remember to water plants, though. Or, in fact, remembering they exist at all.

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thefourthvine: A drawing of Poison Ivy. (Ivy)


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-07 12:29 am UTC (link)
The weather really has been crazy this year; I think it's hard to tell the difference because it's not actually that different.

And I was a champion plant-killer! It turns out the only loophole in my remembering-to-water problem is vegetables. So I sympathize.

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[personal profile] st_aurafina
2011-06-01 02:01 am UTC (link)
Ooh, cucumbers! Make tzatziki! Make pickles! Make... cucumber sandwiches!

We only do tomatoes, though a customer gave me some cauliflower seedlings to try through winter. (They're alive, but not thriving.) Herb-wise, we have rosemary, mint, basil, chives, sage and thyme. So handy.

Next year, if our landscaping project goes ahead, we'll have built-up garden beds, and can go wild with the veggies.

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-07 12:41 am UTC (link)
I am planning to make a foodstuff I cannot spell, but it's Turkish and you make it with yogurt, cucumbers, dill, and garlic. My dill is also going crazy, so it seems fated.

And, yeah, the single thing I love most about gardening is ALL THOSE HERBS. Fresh! Free! Just waiting for me to need them! It's WONDERFUL.

And, man, I hope you post lots of pictures of your landscaping project and built-up beds and wildness with veggies. I love seeing other people's garden photos!

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[personal profile] threerings
2011-06-01 03:11 am UTC (link)
I look forward to your garden posts. It's vicarious gardening for me. I kill veggies dead. Plus, we're in a vicious drought right now, so even our sage bushes are starting to look sad.

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-07 12:42 am UTC (link)
I used to be an inveterate plant-killer. I can only conclude that Southern California is such a magical gardening location that even I can make a tomato happen.

But, yeesh, drought. RAIN, CLOUDS! RAIN.

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[personal profile] lapillus
2011-06-01 04:17 am UTC (link)
Actually, you just need me to come to visit - everything will die rapidly and you will be safe (even if the Earthling will be vastly sad). As I told heresluck yesterday, after pondering and rejecting the idea of mushroom growing kits, that I really should not be put in charge of the continued existence of any other living being. I've managed to kill cacti by underwatering. This is why I belong to a CSA and cultivate friends who grown things.

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-07 12:43 am UTC (link)
True fact: we were so beset by an evil ficus tree in our old house that I actually offered to fly a fan out from New Jersey if she would bring her magical ficus-killing skills to us. So I value your skills! But, um, I think the earthling would be way too sad by the absence of homegrown tomatoes from his life.

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[personal profile] soc_puppet
2011-06-01 05:02 am UTC (link)
August 9th (or is it 8th?) is traditionally Sneak A Zucchini Onto Your Neighbor's Front Porch Night, but I'm sure you could substitute cukes in easy.

Alternately, find out if there's any local place you're likely to find kappa and leave a basket or two there.

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-08 07:23 pm UTC (link)
The thing is, everyone would know it was me. I don't think anyone else in our neighborhood grows vegetables. Hmmm. Maybe I could go over a street and leave them there!

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[personal profile] todeskun
2011-06-01 05:33 am UTC (link)
Re: the Juliet -- is there by chance a type of tomato named "Romeo" that you could plant next to it? Assuming the Juliet (et al) follow Shakespeare you should have the two plants killing each other off by Act V.

And as much as I am amused/horrified by your earthling-sized plants I am also full of seething jealousy. I'm in Portland, OR and I planted my very first container garden this year. I have only eastern exposure and what with the cold and rainy weather we've been having (seriously, there was a snow warning for the mountains! snow! in June!) I have see nothing even remotely like your plants. I have 8 varieties of tomatoes, 4 parsley (2 curly & 2 flat), 2 peppermint, 2 catnip, 2 greek oregano, 2 zucchini, strawberry mint, mojito mint, thyme, show oregano, 3 chives, garlic (and I have no idea how to tell when the garlic is ready to be picked), tarragon, 5 genovese basil, 3 types of lavender, a bunch of peas (sugar snap & shelling), and approximately a buttload of (inappropriately spaced) strawberries. Many of the herbs are sharing dirt with the tomato plants.

The strawberries are actually doing quite well -- this morning I caught one of them sending out a runner over the bucket and into the neighboring tomato plant's pot in a bid for domination, but the best you can say for the rest of the plants is that they aren't dead yet. Well, except for 2 genovese basil that completely and mysteriously wilted two days after I planted them. I keep expecting the mint and oregano to make a bid for domination, but so far they seem to be just barely holding on. The only tomatoes that have shown any sign of fruiting are the "Tumbler" tomatoes in the hanging basket I bought two weeks ago in desperation to have *some* tomato production. The peas are engaged in a war of mutual destruction -- the leaves all around the base of the plants have turned either yellow or died and dried up completely -- and appear to have been attacked by slugs, and I think my zucchini have grown a grand total of an 1/8 of an inch since I planted them.

What with the rain and the fact that it's sunny in the afternoon (when my garden gets next to no light!) I suspect that my biggest concern I'll have regarding my garden is the best way to dispose of the corpses of my food production experiment come July.

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Re: *is jealous*


[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-08 07:28 pm UTC (link)
There is a Romeo! I had no idea, but I googled, and there are a couple of hits for Romeo tomato seed. NEXT YEAR (if I remember) I WILL PLANT BOTH. We will see if we can get some Shakespearean action in my garden!

Portland is so much north of here that you're probably not in your summer yet? Um, otherwise: my sympathies! Food growing is win some, lose some, and the nice part is that usually you can tell yourself you got to play in the dirt and spend time outside and didn't spend all THAT much money. Also, wait until August before you give up. Things could turn around! Probably will!

And, hey, if they don't, feel free to come down here and get some cucumbers.

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[personal profile] vass
2011-06-01 06:03 am UTC (link)
It's winter here. No plants so far. Lots of possums, though. These ones.

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-08 07:28 pm UTC (link)
Possums are also good! And, hey, winter is seed catalog browsing time. Does your new apartment have a balcony?

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(no subject) - [personal profile] vass, 2011-06-09 06:44 pm UTC (Expand)
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[personal profile] shrift
2011-06-01 06:04 am UTC (link)
I'll be getting most of my food from a CSA from June - November, as I am overprivileged enough to be able to afford it, and am foolhardy enough that I'm willing to cook nonstop to transform 20lbs of veg a week into foodstuffs.

It forces me to be inventive! Last year I had to use Google Image Search to identify what some of the vegetables were.

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2011-06-08 07:30 pm UTC (link)
I've been there with the image search. (I got one vegetable from a CSA that is STILL a mystery. And I tell you what, I had no idea what soybean plants looked like until we got some in our box one week.) We were in a CSA for a long time. And then we had the earthling, and his produce needs FAR outstripped any CSA's share, so we went for the farmer's market. Which, in turn, led to my food production experiments. It is a dark and dangerous road we walk now. Filled with grasping tomato tentacles.

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[personal profile] torachan
2011-06-01 07:06 am UTC (link)
I'm so envious of your garden! I have tried several times and just not had any luck. Our soil is so bad and we always have a million creatures eating stuff, so either plants don't grow in the first place or they grow and get eaten before we can get to them.

I think the most disappointing was the time we had planted some corn and it was growing really well and looking awesome and then we went out one day and found the ears were infested with ants. D:

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-08 07:32 pm UTC (link)
Eeewww. We have ants on our newer strawberries right now. I hate them greatly.

Maybe container gardening is the way to go for you? If your soil is bad, and you don't want to do the soil amendment thing, which frankly sounds WAY too complicate for non-professionals, then containers could work for you! They also help with some pest problems.

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(no subject) - [personal profile] torachan, 2011-06-09 02:02 am UTC (Expand)
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[personal profile] liviapenn
2011-06-01 07:23 am UTC (link)

We are still basically in the wettest, coldest spring I can remember in California.

Up here in Portland, too. It's RIDICULOUS. I want it to be spring already! There was this article in the local paper recently about how the Rose Festival is pretty much set to happen with no roses. "WE'LL JUDGE FOLIAGE IF WE HAVE TO." Actual quote.

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[personal profile] thefourthvine
2011-06-08 07:33 pm UTC (link)
...Okay, I admit it, I kind of want to go the foliage judging contest. THAT IS MY KIND OF ROSE FESTIVAL.

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[personal profile] delurker
2011-06-01 11:40 am UTC (link)
Tried to grow tomatoes this year. Disaster! No tomatoes at all. (Well, one small green one is still grimly clinging to the vine, but given that it's winter here... good luck, mate. You'll need it.) First the sun cooked the vine, and the growing season was too short for the second. I have to grow everything in pots too which doesn't help.

In my experience, the packets are all, spread well apart! and the plants are all, we will only grow in the safety of a dense clump. idk. Shove them in close to each other is my new experimental motto.

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