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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2011-12-28 11:15 pm

Technological Questions for the Technologically Informative

I have questions related to various things that we do with computers. (Not those things. Other things. Cleaner things. Or, okay, at least two of these are about things that are almost entirely clean.) I am hoping you all have answers.

Thank you! You are awesome! Yes, you.


About a month ago, I was sending yet another text to myself about a Fascinating Thing the Earthling Said, and it occurred to me that there was this newfangled crazy thing where I could post these things, instead of texting myself and then having to remember to copy them down when I got home. So I made a Twitter account (I am thefourthvine, for the two of you who are gripped by the idea of reading tweets about things someone else's child says), and although this is perhaps not the intended use for this thing (I hear you are supposed to follow? And also be followed? I don't know, okay? LEADERSHIP HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM FOR ME.), I have been pleased.

But now I'm wondering - do tweets go away? Will I get to keep this handy record of things the earthling says forever? And if not, how do I do that export thing? (Worry not. I will export it to my DW, but privately, so no one ever has to see it but me. I just want to obsessively track all the adorable words that come from my child's mouth so I can re-read them in twelve years when he's telling me he hates me and I'm a fuckface. That seems like a reasonable use of my time.)


Is there any way to download a DW journal, like you can with LJ Archive? I like having offline copies, okay, just in case. I want to save all your comments on the earthling posts. I want to save the earthling posts themselves! I want to save my recs! I mean, what if the part of the country where the servers are located falls off? WHAT THEN? I will need an offline backup!


Oh my GOD people I just want to read my friends list with it looking like it always has, and read fan fiction in the, you know, basic comment page no-style style, and leave comments. Do I really have to pick just two? Isn't there some way to be able to do all three without making my computer hang?

Failing that, is there some readable style I can use for my friends page that will let me read fan fiction in the basic page style and leave comments? I am willing to change! But it turns out I can't stand reading fan fiction in friends-page style, and I do want to leave comments from time to time, and I cannot figure out how to make that happen. Someone please just tell me which things to click to fix everything. Please. I'm begging you. Surely there is a ticky box marked "Make It All Better"?

Offsite Backup

I have been using Mozy as my offsite backup for years and been pleased, but they've raised their prices so that they are roughly seven times what they used to be. That is, um, fairly painful for what amounts to catastrophe insurance.

Do any of you have any offsite backup services you use and like? (I am backing up a lot of data, for the record.) I'd like to at least price some other services before I grit my teeth and pay Mozy. And my computer is getting dicey, so I'd like to have my offsite backup back.

OK Cupid

What the fuck is up with OK Cupid? See, okay, I used to like taking stupid internet quizzes, in the Days of More Time, and at some point I clicked on the thing that says "Save your test results with an OK Cupid account!" At least, that's what it said back then. I sincerely hope that these days it says, "GET SOME NOOKIE with an OK Cupid account," since turns out that is what people actually do with them.

So, I filled out my profile, whatever, blah blah blah here are some words and clicks and stuff, and only realized it was actually a dating site some time later. Which, no problem. I am not on the market, and have not been on the market since I was a teenager and "online dating" meant "flirting over IRC," but I never uploaded a photo. Everyone knows if you don't upload a photo on a dating site, you are left alone forever. Right? Those are still the rules, right?

Because I last got a message on OK Cupid in 2008. I last visited OK Cupid in - 2008, probably. Or, at least, both these things were true until about a few months ago. Now I am getting all the messages. There is no reason for it. I still don't have a photo. My profile is not wicked hot or anything; in fact, I changed it after the first spate of messages to make it less hot (surely mentioning puke is a turnoff?), and it did not help at all. I am getting a bunch of blunderbuss messages from dudes who are married and looking for a piece on the side, which - WHY? My profile clearly states that I am not looking to boff anyone (else). And in fact I will never be looking to fuck someone who promises me "thoughtful loving and tenderlovingcare," because I am physically incapable of being aroused by anyone who thinks you can just randomly remove spaces to create new and exciting words. And then I am getting what is almost worse, which are these carefully crafted messages detailed to my interests. And then, of course, there's the random trolling.

I guess I could just delete the account. It's just, I want to know why. What changed? Do people get some kind of bonus credit now for messaging ancient grouchy married people? Is there a message lottery and I won? Shouldn't I have had to enter first? If you know, for the love of god, tell me.
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[personal profile] jumpuphigh 2011-12-29 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
I do all my back-ups to my external hard drive. Now granted, if my house burns down or my laptop and external hard drive die on the exact same day, I'm screwed, but external hard drives are relatively cheap if mine does some day die and MS gets sufficiently cranky with me when I don't back up my laptop that I usually do it reasonably often so I feel that is sufficient protection.

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[personal profile] john 2011-12-29 07:48 am (UTC)(link)
I can help with Twitter! Your tweets in theory never disappear. But your best plan for permanence (because, with Twitter, who knows what they'll do? It is an exciting adventure.) is to archive them to your DW with (say) LoudTwitter or whatever people who import Tweets are using these days, and then back that up to your preferred place.
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[personal profile] msilverstar 2011-12-29 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
Twitter did some kind of deal with the US Library of Congress to archive all our tweets, where they will be protected and only available to researchers. Twitter did a different deal with Google where the tweets would be fully searchable for some number of years. I dunno.
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[personal profile] drunkoffthestars 2011-12-29 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
re: twitter and backups

there is also a fascinatingly odd service called which basically does automatic things between internet accounts. For instance, you could in theory (I think) have your twitter posts automatically archived as Evernote notes or Pinboard/Delicious bookmarks or a couple other things/places, some of which are bloging services. I don't know if that would work for posting to DW/LJ, but it might aid your quest to keep ALL THE THINGS.

Theoretically there is some upper limit on how far back you can go on Twitter. I don't know what that limit is, but it is said to exist. (how's that for completely vague and somewhat sinister? I don't actually mean it like that.)
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[personal profile] mllesays 2011-12-29 03:15 pm (UTC)(link)
FWIW, Pinboard will back up tweets automatically if you sync your account. You can also set it to save the tweets you favorite as bookmarks. Pinboard is my favorite thing of ever.

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[personal profile] elke_tanzer 2011-12-29 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
Also, there is a mention at that LJArchive will back up a DW journal including comments.

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[personal profile] cathalin 2011-12-29 08:46 am (UTC)(link)
This is me reading this post: tech stuff various tech stuff platforms of tech OKAY CUPID WHAT OMG IT'S THE BEGINNING OF A ACCIDENTAL DATING FIC. Only I figured in your circumstances, probably not.
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[personal profile] indeliblesasha 2011-12-29 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone needs to run an accidental dating fest.

Your prompt is: "TFV's adventures in accidental dating sites"
Pick your fandom!


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[personal profile] staranise 2011-12-29 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
OKCupid suggests that its users check out certain people depending on their test results and, yet, it does badger you to message a certain number of people before their "profile is complete". So yes, people are motivated to message wholly unsuitable candidates; but I don't know why you should get such a sudden resurgence.
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[personal profile] qem_chibati 2011-12-29 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
I know of someone who is not interested, but active on okcupid, who has a themed set of posts called "this is why your single!" I have no idea why you are getting a resurgence - I'm not... I hope. (your reasoning was my reasoning.)

Back up

If you need an emergency back up, I can provide a service but it's not really meant to be used for large amounts (more than 500 MB) for long periods of time. (you would find it more difficult to get more offsite, than Australia - our continent is famous for being very stable and not having much happen to it!)

Livejournal this is the post people have been linking to for making the comment pages look like the old system.

Yes you can export your journal.

My understanding is that twitter is bad for long term storage.

I think this is the one that my cousin mentioned at Christmas;5

(Anonymous) 2011-12-29 10:42 am (UTC)(link)
This doesn't address your OkCupid problems at all, but as a bit of possibly interesting OkCupid trivia: The site was originally created by the same creators of, home to SparkNotes as well as various popular-at-the-time quizzes. They made a personality-type match quiz which grew into the dating site OkCupid. Because it grew out of this site with all these quizzes, OkCupid itself also featured lots of quizzes!

Also, OkCupid was wayyyyy more fun in 2004 than it is now, in my grouchy old user opinion.

Possibly helpful for you? (in case you didn't know this): Under "settings" on the OkCupid site (found on the left hand side under your username), you can tell it to at least not email you when you get new messages. Won't stop people form messaging you, but if all you wanna do is take quizzes, you could just ignore your messages entirely.

(Anonymous) 2011-12-29 10:43 am (UTC)(link)
Oh also, in case it's matching you with people based on your quiz results or something, there's some way to set your quiz results to private (possibly with the exception of the main site Match quiz), but I don't remember where that setting is, sorry.
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[personal profile] isilya 2011-12-29 11:15 am (UTC)(link)
Just wondering whether Twitter is really the best option for what you want to do?

If you can email from your phone, you could post-by-email to DW under a custom filter! - or here are some US-centric tips for posting to DW via SMS.

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[personal profile] mtl 2011-12-29 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
Backups for Twitter:
-- I use Backupify & love it. I have it backing up Twitter, Facebook, Google docs, Gmail, Flickr, etc, etc, etc. I have a paid account since I use it for professional reasons, but the personal accounts range from free to cheap.

ETA: I added you to my follow list on Twitter. I'm @themarialima & blather on there about pretty much anything that strikes my fancy. :)

Data Backups/Cloud Storage
-- I use Dropbox. First 2 GB is free. ALL my files (except for iTunes files) are saved there. Totally easy. I found Mozy less than useful. For iTunes/mp3/media files - I found that buying a 2TB backup drive and doing a regular backup solved my needs. YMMV
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[personal profile] aderam 2011-12-29 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I second Dropbox! It's really easy and it makes me feel better about how rarely I actually remember to back up everything on my external hard drive.

Also great if you're working on stuff with a due date, because it saves the files automatically. Which means when I working on papers or Yuletide fic, I'm not worried that all my work will accidentally disappear in a fiery blue screen of death.

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[personal profile] synecdochic 2011-12-29 12:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Most nerds I know use an Amazon EC2 instance for backups once you get past the 2GB of Dropbox. For backing up all of Dreamwidth, it's like $100 a month.
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[personal profile] bluemeridian 2011-12-29 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
My brain just stuttered over the backing up all of Dreamwidth part. :p

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[personal profile] sapote 2011-12-29 12:50 pm (UTC)(link)
OKCupid pushes your profile higher in the "people you might like !1!!!" queue every time you update. I recently started feeling awkward about still having a profile marked "single" that I forgot about when I boyfriended-up and went in to make a "not the droid you are looking for, move along" type update. Yeah, for about three months I got a fresh barrage of messages. First you get the local dudes who clearly IM everyone new in their zip code, and then as the months pass (at least where I am) the message-senders get further away and weirder...
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[personal profile] snarp 2011-12-29 01:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Crashplan is good for backup. It's presently $50 a year for unlimited data for one computer, and $120 for more than one. It'll encrypt your files and back them up both to an offsite server and an external hard drive (the latter being a free feature), so you've got a double backup. And you can be pretty sure the external drive one will always be up-to-date, which probably will not be the case for the online one if you've got a lot of data.

The drawback is that, because the files are encrypted before you upload them, you can't access them through a web interface. (Which I think you can do with Mozy? I know you can with Carbonite.)
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[personal profile] mmeg 2011-12-29 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I'm using Backblaze which is the other one mentioned in that article. I used to use Carbonite, but they won't back up an external.
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[personal profile] parhelion 2011-12-29 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Nothing helpful to say, but I've been having the same OK-Cupid experience you are for about four or five months now. I haven't visited in years, updated in years, have no photo, am married on my profile, am not looking for any relationship other than platonic friends on my profile, even mentioned I was very overweight (no longer as true, but, hey, it's what they see) in my profile, and...okay, yeah, am a lesbian. I have no idea why the obnoxiously-clueless-dude action has picked up after such a long silence.
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[personal profile] james 2011-12-29 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I am totally going to stalk you on Twitter, now, for the maximum amount of Earthling adorableness I can get. \o/
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[personal profile] cleo 2011-12-29 01:40 pm (UTC)(link)
+1. Omg so excited!

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[personal profile] lorax 2011-12-29 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't tested it out yet, but here is a script that's supposed to help the new LJ comment pages be less obnoxious.
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OKCupid (Off-topic)

[personal profile] paxpinnae 2011-12-29 01:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, so I have no insight as to why married lesbian moms are suddenly hot commodities on the OKCupid market, but do have an OKCupid question to throw to the crowd:

Is OKCupid a good site for an early-twenties dude seeking dudes for good ol'fashioned long-term-relationship-seeking dates? One of my friends recently came out and would like to find himself a nice gentleman friend, but because he's out of school, he's having a hard time doing the "meet new people" thing, and most of the gay-oriented sites he's checked have, um, not really been focused on long-term-relationship-seeking people.
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[personal profile] likeaduck 2011-12-29 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
A lot is going to depend on what sort of userbase OkCupid has in your friend's area/population of interest obviously, and mileage-variance is huge, but I've certainly met some lovely people on it, and if the difference your friend is looking for is likely to be found in a site that's less skewed towards casual, semianonymous hookups and more towards long, wordy profiles and some degree of perceived personality compatibility (without excluding casual, semianonymous hookups), then I would in fact recommend OkCupid.
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[personal profile] surexit 2011-12-29 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)
COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT TO EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID, but I've just realissed that I've taken you off my default view on LJ but don't have access to earthling posts over here - would it be possible to get it? ♥
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[personal profile] sinensis 2011-12-29 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
re: OKCupid--I wonder if there is some new kind of spammer scheme going that involves online dating/meetup sites? because one of my email addresses was used to create an account on (not by me, just to be clear, and I've never looked at the site). This happened about three months ago, I think. Now my spam folder gets many many messages from "people" (supposedly dudes, but I'm thinking they're actually bots of some kind) who winked at me! whose interest I caught! who want me me me! And, I presume, ultimately want me to follow some link back to...someplace.

It's right annoying. It's a gmail account, and there was an auto message from them after I trashed the first fifty messages saying that if I was signed up to without my consent they'd fix it, unsubscribe me, delete the account, whatever. But I'm still getting the spam.
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[personal profile] zeborah 2011-12-29 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
There is a scam that involves online dating sites - it basically goes like this:

* Initial contact - "Hi, I saw your profile, now let me tell you about myself and give you photos."

* Some number of further contacts to build up rapport, fewer if the scammer is unsophisticated, more if the scammer is more sophisticated.

* "So, hey, I need to get out of this refugee camp / pay for my mother's operation / get a flight to the US to come and meet you, can you send me some moneys by teh Western Union?"

* "Now some other problem has popped up and I just need a tiny bit more money, can you help?" [repeat until your bank account is in overdraft and you're in prison for stealing from your employer]

At this point there are two really important rules:
1) Don't send them money, just stop all contact.
2) Don't diss anyone who does send money. Liking and trusting people isn't stupid, it's human, and the scammers are operating from sound and tested psychological principles.


But there's probably also generic spamming too. And clueless dudes 'winking' at everyone around in the hopes that someone will wink back.
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[personal profile] indeliblesasha 2011-12-29 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I added you to twitter! Because I do occasionally post things MY kids say TOO, in addition to retweeting Zachary Quinto and flailing about fandom things with Joy. :D
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[personal profile] likeaduck 2011-12-29 04:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Following you on Twitter now, and the Earthling's Eeyoreish tail-broken woe is my faaavourite.
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[personal profile] lexstar29 2011-12-29 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I too am following you on Twitter, (Lexington_75) As to backing up, I use Crashplan as well as you can back you your entire computer to an offsite server as well as encrypting it to another computer. I like the idea of having two back ups!
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[personal profile] stewardess 2011-12-29 05:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I am here to answer your questions about okcupid. ^^

"GET SOME NOOKIE with an OK Cupid account"

Yep, that's what it says. ^^

Okcupid frequently changes the default settings (sometimes intentionally, sometimes by "accident"), so you may get sudden activity (emails, views) you never received before. This can happen because your profile may get displayed to random people in the "you may like this person if you like this person" randomness.

The only way to end it is deactivate your account (or delete it), because okcupid will never stop fucking up the settings and doing this.

In okcupid, you can search on "women, gay, any relationship status," and many random straight dudes do just that. If you are wondering why, the answer is: they are whacking off. Even when there is no photo! They just substitute Portia Rossi in their heads, or something.
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[personal profile] caseylane 2011-12-29 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I use Carbonite for back up. It's $50 a year but unlimited data. I also used it to restore when I was forced to format my computer. It was then I realized I was backing up too much since it took a while. Still, everything was restored with no problems.

[personal profile] lknomad 2011-12-29 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe that Twitter is supposed to keep things online but after awhile things get so far back that it is hard if not impossible to find what you are looking for. This can be a bad thing...or in some cases a very good thing. (There was a twitter fiasco in 2009 at an educational conference. Discussion of this is all over the web but the actual conversation is nowhere to be found. Luckily someone took a screen shot of the chatter so the backstabbing and humiliation live forever!)

I did a search recently to see if I could find any of the conversation on twitter and I cannot - even when using twitter search sites. I would not count of twitter to keep track of anything. Still you can use it for short term storage and conversation and then archive it. See this site for options

[personal profile] lknomad 2011-12-29 06:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy already have 65 followers!!! This will be a great help if cousin Z decides to do another survey.

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