elf (![[personal profile]](http://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small} elf) wrote in thefourthvine, |
I tried figuring out if Bothari from the Vorkosigan series is a spacetoaster. I'm undecided..
1. +10
2. I tried writing fic from his point-of-view. I found myself writing in second person. I don't think he *has* a 1st-person point-of-view.
3. A) Check. B) Um. Now my head hurts. +5, maybe +10
It's not that I can't imagine him attempting to discuss his feelings intensely and sincerely, but such attempts could only mean pain for everyone within earshot.
4. +15. The only person to ever knowingly, willingly hug Konstantin Bothari is Miles Vorkosigan, and that's because Mileshas no sense of self-preservation whatsoever was the target of all Bothari's protective skills from before birth, and therefore by the time he had the social skills to understand that Bothari is to be FEARED, not liked, the habit of trusting him was too deeply set.
5. Let's call it +5, with a possible bonus point for "overwhelming lust when facing a woman going into labor in the middle of a firefight." Which is not specifically spacetoastery, but waaaay up there on the "feelings: ur doin them rong" meter.
6. +2, I think. He's never done research to understand jokes; nobody's sure if he gets jokes and just doesn't laugh much, or doesn't get them and doesn't care. (And nobody's going to ask, either.) He avoids or doesn't notice emotional scenes regularly, but again, nobody's sure which or why. And he fails to respond normally to any number of basic social situations, and nobody's sure if that's because
(1) he's clueless,
(2) he doesn't give a damn,
(3) he's been through psycho-social torture including drugs and a lot of really warped situations, and nobody's sure how aware of his *actual* surroundings he is at any given time (canonical), or
(4) the treatment for the torture left him with literal holes in his brain, and again, nobody's sure yadda yadda, except that he's damn quick to take out threats to the family with rather extreme amounts of violence, so *some* level of cognitive awareness is working *just fine.*
I have a whole long epic angsty story about Bothari I want to write, and I'm terrified that the only way I can do so is with 2nd person POV. (2nd Person is my POV-of-choice for characters who lack self-awareness.) I'm also terrified of writing that much crazy into a fic.
1. +10
2. I tried writing fic from his point-of-view. I found myself writing in second person. I don't think he *has* a 1st-person point-of-view.
3. A) Check. B) Um. Now my head hurts. +5, maybe +10
It's not that I can't imagine him attempting to discuss his feelings intensely and sincerely, but such attempts could only mean pain for everyone within earshot.
4. +15. The only person to ever knowingly, willingly hug Konstantin Bothari is Miles Vorkosigan, and that's because Miles
5. Let's call it +5, with a possible bonus point for "overwhelming lust when facing a woman going into labor in the middle of a firefight." Which is not specifically spacetoastery, but waaaay up there on the "feelings: ur doin them rong" meter.
6. +2, I think. He's never done research to understand jokes; nobody's sure if he gets jokes and just doesn't laugh much, or doesn't get them and doesn't care. (And nobody's going to ask, either.) He avoids or doesn't notice emotional scenes regularly, but again, nobody's sure which or why. And he fails to respond normally to any number of basic social situations, and nobody's sure if that's because
(1) he's clueless,
(2) he doesn't give a damn,
(3) he's been through psycho-social torture including drugs and a lot of really warped situations, and nobody's sure how aware of his *actual* surroundings he is at any given time (canonical), or
(4) the treatment for the torture left him with literal holes in his brain, and again, nobody's sure yadda yadda, except that he's damn quick to take out threats to the family with rather extreme amounts of violence, so *some* level of cognitive awareness is working *just fine.*
I have a whole long epic angsty story about Bothari I want to write, and I'm terrified that the only way I can do so is with 2nd person POV. (2nd Person is my POV-of-choice for characters who lack self-awareness.) I'm also terrified of writing that much crazy into a fic.
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