thefourthvine: Two people fucking, rearview: sex is the universal fandom. (UF black and white, Universal Fandom)Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote,
@ 2007-09-19 09:12 am UTC
  • Previous Entry
  • Add to Memories
  • Tell someone about this!
  • Next Entry
Entry tags:[meta], [miscellaneous]
Older fandoms, you confuse me so. The story I'm reading right now has piercing gazes, searing gazes, cuddling, comforting, lengthy descriptions of eyes that change color (Green! Hazel! Gold! No, I'm not kidding - really, gold, and this isn't the right fandom for him to have been implanted with a Goa'uld.), marriage proposals, men of action sharing their feelings in astonishing detail and with great (sometimes searing) honesty, a guy telling another guy how beautiful he is, holding hands, kissing, and two adult men (of action!) with extensive disposable incomes living together and sharing a bed.

And it's gen.*

I am patiently waiting for the mutual declarations of eternal love while hugging (or crying; I'd totally take crying) in the rain. Then, and only then, will I be able to stop reading.

So, does anyone have a story from an older fandom to recommend to me? You people have mostly been at this longer than me - surely you've got some nice gen or slash story favorite from a pre-LJ fandom that you could link me to. Gen or slash welcome - especially gen that I can read as gen. Seriously. Save me from myself. And this story. I am just bewildered, here.

-Footnote-

* Another gen story in the same fandom (but by a different person) features a noted canonical horndog turning down NSA sex with a beautiful woman because he's in love with someone else - that someone being, of course, the guy who is his Entirely Not Slashy Totally Hetero Life Partner. (It also had a paragraph about their great and abiding love, and the Totally Hetero Life Partner isn't even in the story. Nor is there any explanation of why the THLP would want his "friend" to turn down the sex - I mean, seriously, it was just presented as "this is what you do when you're in love with your THLP, forswear sex and cleave only unto him, but in a straight and manly way." I guess I am just not straight enough to understand that.) And the author's note contained a diatribe against slash. Oh, my people.

Page 3 of 18

<<   [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18]   >>

(444 comments) - (Post a new comment)
(Threaded) (Top-level comments only)


[identity profile] joandarck.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:12 pm UTC (link)
Oh, thank you! Yes, I've read the [livejournal.com profile] przed ones. And some others, too -- there was a whole page of them by somebody who had a bent towards West being kind of cruel towards Artie, including dub-con. I haven't seen the show in so long that I couldn't swear they were OOC, but they were certainly, you know, interesting.

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 


ext_1562: (cartoonme)


[identity profile] z-rayne.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:14 pm UTC (link)
Well, I meant on the gen side of things. I don't remember any smarm in Pros. It was either true gen (often written by guys) or it was slash. Possibly OOT slash, but definitely unabashed slash. *g*

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] carta.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:14 pm UTC (link)
I know! I mean, REALLY. We can get shows that no one watched, but no Lee & Amanda? There is no justice.

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:15 pm UTC (link)
And of course, back in the day, gen fans were really at war with slashers; some threatened to report slashers to the copyright holders.

Very true, and a good point. I suspect it's like the Ray Wars or whatever: no one who wasn't there can truly understand the depths of vitriol and anger involved.

My first thought upon reading that author's note was, "Oh, I bet that ended up on fandom_wank." And then I remembered they didn't have fandom_wank when this was written. It was all very disorienting.

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:17 pm UTC (link)
I would absolutely love some MUNCLE recs. (No, I don't know much about the fandom, but I'm totally easy.) Do keep track of what you liked!

And you're totally not going to tell us, are you? *puppy eyes*

Totally not. *is evil*

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:19 pm UTC (link)
Whoops, sorry. (The thing is, I tend to read NSA as the National Security Administration, too, and I used the damn acronym anyway.) It's No Strings Attached, yup.

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] carta.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:20 pm UTC (link)
You're welcome! It's a nice house to live in.

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:21 pm UTC (link)
Surely there's an SGA AU where John got his math doctorate and became a cryptanalyst in the tradition of Alan Turing?

OH MY GOD I WANT THAT STORY SO MUCH NOW.

And Cryptonomicon is definitely going onto my Yuletide consideration list this year, because FF for that would be AWESOME.

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 


ext_1562: (cartoonme)


[identity profile] z-rayne.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:22 pm UTC (link)
In the interests of furthering your education on the subject of smarm, here's an interview with well-known Sentinel smarm author Martha (http://tslibrary.skeeter63.org/featured-author/featured-author-martha.htm).

And here's Martha's fic page (http://soulcake.skeeter63.org/).

I think I read Plank, back in the day, but smarm was unsatisfying for me because while I love all the affectionate stuff, I want the porn that comes after, too, so smarm was only giving me half a fix.

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:23 pm UTC (link)
Seriously, wouldn't that add so much to so many golden-eyed stories? At first, you think you're reading smarm, but in the next chapter - Goa'uld takeover of the planet!

Oh my god YES. That would be perfect. (And the truth is, I've been so trained by SG1 fandom that I was immediately pulled out of the story because, you know, OBVIOUSLY HE'S A GOA'ULD! RUN!)

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:23 pm UTC (link)
Not telling! Totally not telling!

*whistles*

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:27 pm UTC (link)
You can't go wrong with classic stories by HG, O. Yardley, M. Fae Glasgow (the woman who did more than probably any other single person to put porn into slash!), Pamela Rose, Ellis Ward, Fanny Adams, Helen Raven . . .

Thank you! *makes frantic notes*

(Notice how I am carefully not telling what fandom it is. I am made of evil!)

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 


ext_2248: (sheep!)


[identity profile] macey-muse.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:29 pm UTC (link)
Can I pimp you a new (old) fandom? It's manga (I know you read those fandoms a little) so no need for the trauma of watching new things ^.^

From Eroica With Love (http://community.livejournal.com/crack_van/11157.html?style=mine), explained far more coherently than I could over at crack_van.

And here (http://www.belladonna.org/eroica.html) is a 'zine archive with pretty high-quality stuff (although, I read anything, so.).

OK yes, I know, not -that- old. But I'm only about, um, three years old, I think. Fandom-wise. So. Points for effort?

(I think I've commented before, but I might not've ~ I'm a horrible lurker. If I haven't, then, hi? *waves*)

(Reply to this) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:30 pm UTC (link)
Not telling! But it really is a thing of beauty. If slightly bewildering. I keep saying, "Oh, come ON. This could not be any slashier if you had an actual explicit blowjob! And some buttfucking! AND A COMMITMENT CEREMONY IN CANADA."

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] jarrow.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:32 pm UTC (link)
There is no gen in Sports Night - even the "gen" stories are slashy. Such is the way of the Sorkin.

HEE! Does that mean I'm the only person ever who wrote non-slashy gen (http://community.livejournal.com/tickettyboo/10067.html)?! *wears gold star*

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] syredronning.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:35 pm UTC (link)
Green? Hazel? Gold?

My bet is on K&S fiction by Gamin Davis.

(Never read her? Well, DON'T ;) You've been warned *G*)

(Reply to this) 



[identity profile] drlense.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:35 pm UTC (link)
A hA!!

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:35 pm UTC (link)
I am totally not saying what fandom it is. Because I am evil. Although I am deeply, deeply amused by the number of people who would've voted TS if I hadn't ruled that out. Hee!

Let me go rummage around my del.icio.us account.

Eee yay! *waits with great hopefulness*

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] drlense.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:36 pm UTC (link)
Don't forget the entirety of the "Little Britches" series- Chris and Buck live together, raise children together, and never date- but they're ABSOLUTELY NOT GAY.

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:42 pm UTC (link)
dammit woman, you can't tease us with a description like that and not share!

I can. I totally, totally can. Because I am evil.

*dons YAY EVIL t-shirt*

also, hi, i don't know if i've ever commented before.

Hi! Nice to meet you. May I taunt you with further descriptions of They Are So Straight, Seriously, This Is How All Straight Guys Act stories?

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 



[identity profile] penknife.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:43 pm UTC (link)
I am guessing Original Series Star Trek, just for the green/hazel/gold eyes. But now I really want to see the story, in a masochistic sort of way.

(Reply to this) 



[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:47 pm UTC (link)
Hey, there is nothing wrong with liking slash and gen. (Or slash, gen, and het. Or slash, gen, het, and tentacles. Or just tenatcles. Whatever you want, is my point.) I fully support you in this endeavor.

I am just a slasher by nature, not nurture, so my discovery of smarm has been a bit bewildering. I am SO CONFUSED.

the Real Ghostbusters

The cartoon? There's a lot of FF for the cartoon? (And I'm really pretty sure it is a cartoon, because my Best Beloved is, like, a die hard fan of the show and owns the whole thing on DVD. Unless I got the title wrong. Which is possible.)

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 


risha: (Brave little toaster)


[personal profile] risha
2007-09-19 05:47 pm UTC (link)
Oh yeah, I forgot you wanted recs. As per my M7 comment above:

Katherine's Learning To Improvise series may be my very favorite (long) slash series of all time, across all fandoms, though individual chapters vary in length and quality. I find Chapter 3 in particular very affecting. Vin/Ezra.

Cobalt's (Committed) To Memory is all of the smarm plus all of the slash. And I always cry. Vin/Ezra.

And NotTasha writes incredible gen. I basically recommend everything she writes. But for reccing purposes I would probably start with the A Game of Chess" series (Nathan and Ezra), The Amazon Series (Ezra, Vin, and everyone), or the standalone story A Stone, Turned.

(Reply to this) 



[identity profile] lehanra.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:50 pm UTC (link)
Your icon fills me with joy and horror. Joy, because of Scrooge McDuck is awesome, especially written by Don Rosa. The horror comes from instantly thinking of Methos/Scrooge and then realizing I would read that.

(Reply to this)  (Thread from start)  (Parent) 


ext_13205: (Ispit)


[identity profile] korilian.livejournal.com
2007-09-19 05:51 pm UTC (link)
What fandom are we talking here? When you said golden eyes I figured (hoped) it was SPN, or god, HP, because it would make sense! ...it's totally the Sentinal though, isn't it?

(Reply to this) 


(444 comments) - (Post a new comment)
(Threaded) (Top-level comments only)

Page 3 of 18

<<   [1] [2] [3] [4] [5] [6] [7] [8] [9] [10]
[11] [12] [13] [14] [15] [16] [17] [18]   >>