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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2011-05-31 12:25 pm

[Garden] Never Turn Your Back on Mother Earth

At a recent earthling speech therapy session, Amber the speech therapist revealed to me that she had, for the first time ever, planted a garden this year. I told her my first time of planting was last year, and we exchanged the Look. I am not sure if gardeners everywhere exchange this look, or if it's just Southern California ones. It conveys a combination of fear, amazement, and just a tentative hint of delight - tentative because you only really want to be happy about something if you're sure no lives will be lost, and gardeners cannot ever, apparently, be entirely sure of that. I have never lived in avalanche country, but I am assuming this is the same expression you see the faces of tourists there when one goes off.

Amber told me her cilantro was going crazy, and I explained to her the sad truth about the cilantro life cycle (when it goes crazy, it's about to bolt), and we compared the heights of our children and our cilantro (cilantro wins!). We talked about how you can never be really sure how big your zucchini plant will get, largely because zucchinis expand to fill all available space. Hers are currently eating her peas; mine is in a fight to the death with the Persian cucumbers. God only knows what the outcome will be. Zuccumbers? The apocalypse? No way to be sure!

And then I told her what I planted this year. You know you're in trouble when a fellow novice gardener stares at you, stunned by your stupidity.

"It's not my fault," I said weakly. "[Earthling] picked out most of those plants."

It's true, he did. It's also true that I planted them. And let them flourish. And, in some cases, allowed him to plant even more. We are still basically in the wettest, coldest spring I can remember in California. (Although keep in mind that this is relative; by "wettest," I mean that the drought warnings have gone down to only high alert level, and by "coldest" I mean "we mostly haven't had to use the air conditioner yet.") And yet. I have already learned some hard, hard facts about gardening, the kind they never seem to share in gardening books. (My current theory is that this is a form of hazing. "We all know this," the gardening book writers say to each other. "But we're not telling. If they really care about gardening, they will learn the hard way, just like we did." Gardening is one of those sports that only the strong survive, apparently.)

I planted a Juliet tomato this year. Because it was described as an excellent balcony or patio tomato - perfect for container gardening! - I assumed it was a small, modest plant that would grow only in moderation.

This is absolute bullshit, it turns out. What "patio" plant means is "if you plant it in the actual ground, it will act like it just got hit by Lex Luthor's Amazing Supergrowth Ray." If I had listened closely while planting it, I probably could have heard its cries of, "Free! Free at last! TOMATO FAME, HERE I COME."


The Juliet, seeking tomato fame, or possibly fresh human brains to snack on. Yes, I know I borked the spacing again this year. In my defense a) I'm doing better and b) tomatoes appear to expand to fill whatever space you give them, so if I'd spaced them properly, the Juliet would now be the size of Anchorage, Alaska.


Because of my touchingly naïve belief in the Juliet's decorous, restrained nature, I put it in one of the two wolverine-sized tomato cages that survived last year's tomato Armageddon. (This year, I am buying only the bear size. I may be slow, but I can be taught.) It was over the top of it by the start of May, and is now taller than I am and, as you can see, encroaching on the cages of the other tomatoes. My mother, who views my urge to grow tomatoes as perhaps the sole evidence that I am genetically related to her, recently visited and suggested I buy a second tomato cage to train the rest of the Juliet onto. (I would, except when I think "train" I can only picture myself out there with a packet of biscuits and a clicker, and I don't think the tomato plants would respond. If you could teach a tomato plant to heel, someone would already have won a Nobel Prize for it.)

If I had known about the Juliet's ambitions, it's possible I would have reined in the earthling's, at least a little. But he was so determined to buy tomato plants that I'm not sure I would have. I mean, I do remember last year. There was no excuse for planting more tomato plants than I did last year. And yet. I did. With earthling encouragement, yes, but the fault was mine. (This is why we have winter: so gardeners will forget the thorns and terror of the previous year and get cocky again.)

So, yes, we have ten tomato plants in the ground. (We had eleven, but one of them experienced what might have been some sort of tomato disease, but was probably the Juliet, its next door neighbor, using special attack powers to bring it down. The space where the deceased plant was is full, now; the Juliet and its friend across the row have combined to make sure I can never plant anything there.) We have six Japanese eggplants, currently flowering (gorgeous, and worth planting just for that) and setting fruit. We have two large containers full of bean plants. I put the seeds in one of the containers, following the recommended nice, orderly spacing. The earthling put the seeds in the other one, following a plan of his own devising, called "poke some seeds individually into the ground, and then decide it would be more fun to dump a whole handful in at once."


Beans, two weeks after sowing. (Really, I was just looking for a way to entertain the earthling one afternoon.) He planted the ones on the left. Note that they are higher than the ones I planted.


We also have Japanese cucumbers. I do not believe these are actually Japanese, except possibly in the sense of "we found these seeds over here near Kyoto, and we're exporting them all before we lose the island." Japan is simply not big enough to grow these things. (The planet may not be big enough.) There would be no more room for people. Also, I refuse to believe that anyone, anywhere, except possibly someone cackling in some remote mountain laboratory - the kind of person who would make a half-pony, half-monkey monster - would deliberately breed these. They are spiny terrors and clearly plotting something. I planted ours in a small side bed that had previously been given over to volunteer palms. (I fucking hate palm trees. The previous owners loved them. My major plan for the next ten years in this house involves killing all the palms.) It's a really small, narrow bed, so my intention was to put strawberries there, and in fact there are some strawberry plants over at one side, but then the earthling bought the Japanese cucumber seedlings and I had to put them somewhere. I thought they'd probably die anyway, so I just stuck them in the narrow bed in the meantime.


They did not die. The trellis in this picture is about five feet high. Note the cucumbers' proximity to the top of the wall.


In retrospect, I wish I had not put them along the fence that we share with the friendly neighbors. Pretty soon I am going to have to go over there and apologize because our cucumber plants are menacing their incredibly tidy, orderly yard. (These neighbors repaint their gutters and siding every six months and trim their bushes each day. They would never do anything as reckless or chaotic as planting vegetables.) I mean, two weeks ago I put a trellis up for them. (I bought it last year for the beans, but the beans spurned it. It is marketed as a tomato trellis, but I can only laugh hollowly at the news. The tomato plants last year crushed the one near them just for kicks.) The cucumbers are now at the top of the trellis and sending feelers up the concrete wall. If you get close - not recommended - and shift away the lower growth, you find yellow flowers. A lot of yellow flowers. And baby cucumbers. Enough that you will, if you are me, realize that you don't have a lot of use for cucumbers, and you may be in a lot of trouble very soon.

The trouble is coming. I can sense it, rumbling and green out there in the yard. In the meantime, garden questions!

Poll #7140 2011 Garden Questions
Open to: Registered Users, detailed results viewable to: All, participants: 308


What would be an appropriate "Sorry the cucumbers came beween us" gift for the neighbors?

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Flowers!
31 (10.2%)

Tomatoes.
107 (35.2%)

Why not just give them some cucumbers?
267 (87.8%)

How about something - anything - NOT plant-related?
29 (9.5%)

What should I do about the Juliet and its tomato cohort?

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Stand well back.
85 (28.1%)

Hope for the zombie apocalypse; maybe they'll fight each other to a standstill!
95 (31.5%)

Have you considered sowing the ground with salt? Sometimes the old ways are best.
61 (20.2%)

Get in there with some clippers. If you'd wanted a safe life, you never would have planted a garden.
154 (51.0%)

Kill it. I don't care how. But kill it NOW.
11 (3.6%)

Other. (To the comments!)
14 (4.6%)

Are you growing food this year?

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No. I prefer to get my food from the market, already safely dead.
83 (27.4%)

No. I would if I could, but not this year.
118 (38.9%)

Yes. And I'm scared. Hold me?
19 (6.3%)

Yes, and I'm not scared at all. In fact, I'm going to go buy a Juliet RIGHT NOW.
61 (20.1%)

Let me tell you allllllll about it in the comments.
22 (7.3%)

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[personal profile] vascarl 2011-06-01 12:29 pm (UTC)(link)
When we use compost on the garden it always ends up sprouting pumpkin plats, this is fine when it's in the veggie patch not so much when they take over the flours. We have a fence around our veggie patch, it serves the duel purpose of keeping the dogs out and keeping the tomato plants in (but it hasn't stop the potatoes from escaping)
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2011-06-01 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not scared, because I live in a climate that is very much not California. I will probably have about nine tomato plants, and if I am lucky I will have about 18 tomatoes.
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[personal profile] dzurlady 2011-06-01 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I planted some over the last winter/summer (it is now autumn), and as I am not the best gardener and it's chillier here, my vegetables have not really run away from me. (The strawberries were disappointing, but at least they looked nice.)

Have you considered carrots? They do a lot of growing under the ground.
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[personal profile] phineasjones 2011-06-01 03:09 pm (UTC)(link)
colorado is the opposite of california, i think. you have to beg and bribe things to grow here. i am very jealous.
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[personal profile] paceus 2011-06-01 06:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Our season is just starting, and even thought the zucchini plants grew surprisingly big last year, it's not everywhere that people feel fear when planting things. We (my allotment partner and I) have tentative delight because we really, really hope sudden frost won't eat our plants. But you probably knew that.

Since I promised to tell you all about my plants *g* here are some details: we started planting last week, and so far we've got carrots, parsnip, turnips, peas, beans, and lettuce in the ground. Combined, the carrot rows are about 130 feet long. >_> I really like carrots.

I'm also growing zucchini and broccoli, but they're still inside and won't be taken out in a couple of weeks, at least. And today I planted some cauliflower. I'm excited to see how that will grow because we haven't had that before.

It would be fun to grow tomatoes but they must be kept in a greenhouse over here, and we don't have a greenhouse.
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[personal profile] giglet 2011-06-02 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm growing strawberries (which will probably get eaten by the birds, as in past years).
I'm growing broccoli, which has a good chance of providing us with a lot of produce.
I'm growing tomatoes, which are still wee, because they're the replacements to the tomato I kept alive all winter, but killed on transplanting. Sigh. It'll be a miracle if any tomatoes are ready before September.
I did not sow the lettuce, or spinach, or peas. Because I forgot about them.

We have a farmshare this year, which is the only reason I am not despairing of my farm-slovenly ways.

The thing is, New England is not Southern California. The growing season is fairly short.
Edited 2011-06-02 01:59 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2011-06-06 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
As a devoted lurker of these pages, I want to show you this Steve Bell cartoon on the topic of safe fruit (re the European e coli salad):

www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cartoon/2011/jun/06/steve-bell-if-safe-salad
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[personal profile] archersangel 2011-06-07 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
We talked about how you can never be really sure how big your zucchini plant will get, largely because zucchinis expand to fill all available space. Hers are currently eating her peas; mine is in a fight to the death with the Persian cucumbers. God only knows what the outcome will be. Zuccumbers? The apocalypse? No way to be sure!

LOL! could i put that on metaquotes?

[identity profile] slb44.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 08:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you suckering your tomato plants? It's not as bad as it sounds but it should reign in the Capulet terror and her co-hort. This,

http://www.growing-tomato.com/Pruning_Tomatoes_A_Guide_to_Pruning_Tomato_Plants.html

gives a good explanation.

[identity profile] frog4.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
... ye gods. I had a plant-induced identity crisis while accompanying my sister to a nursery this weekend, and actually considered planting a small balcony garden. Perhaps I will just stick with my lone little pot of chives.

On the other hand... home grown tomatoes are so tasty! This is how they sucker you into abetting their plans for world domination, isn’t it?
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[identity profile] vickita.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I can send you my mom's recipe for making sweet pickles...

[identity profile] dramaturgca.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Pickles! Lots of pickles! My brother is a big believer in cucumber slices with a little lemon juice and salt. I am myself a big believer in cucumber sandwiches with dill cream cheese. Also... slices to put on your eyes to make your skin pretty? Cold cucumber soup? Cucumber and melon salad? (Clearly I like cucumbers...)

[identity profile] liddle-oldman.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 09:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I do have to say -- anyone who plants zucchini is really sort of asking for it.

As for the rest of it, did you ever see the Dr. Who ep with the guy who was going to turn the Earth into an animal-free forest? "One veg and no meat", quipped the companion at the end. (After the RAF had knocked the ravening vines down with missles -- just a hint.)

:)

[identity profile] greensilver.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I typically stick to herbs, as I'm theoretically somewhat familiar with them (and I do a lot of container gardening, for which herbs are great). This year I planted pineapple sage for the first time on a whim, so of course it's trying to take over. Plants know. "That one has no idea what we're capable of, let's really put on a show," they say. Sneaky plants.

Your massive Juliet makes me glad I haven't planted my front yard yet -- I was thinking about moving the tomato plants on my porch into the ground, but, no. They'll stay riiiight where they are.

[identity profile] muchadoabouthim.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 10:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Israeli salad. Diced cucumbers, tomatoes, onions, and parsley with lemon juice and olive oil. It's quite delicious.

[identity profile] corvis-corvax.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, Yeah... The term "container plant" isn't code for "tiny, fragile, easily contained" it's code for "will grow ANYWHERE and survive your complete neglect with a vengance" Kinda like "feeder fish."

[identity profile] ixchel55.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
This is the first year I haven't planted my balcony garden. Last year's was rather sedate but the year before that my 8x4 foot balcony was a jungle (http://ixchel55.livejournal.com/174479.html#cutid1). I had a 7 ft Black Krim tomato that was yearning for freedom and kept leaning so far out over the balcony railing (3rd floor) and had such huge tomatoes that I had to keep tying it up with strips of muslin until it looked like a bondage devotee (http://ixchel55.livejournal.com/178761.html). Nope. Vegetables are not mannerly critters.

One word of advice? Remember August 8th. It's official Sneak Some Zucchini on Your Neighbor's Porch Day (http://holidayinsights.com/moreholidays/August/sneakzucchini.htm)

[identity profile] boogieshoes.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
*sighs* i wish i could get my plants to grow like yours do. i know you find it frightening, but i'd love to have my food plants actually produce anything!

i might have better luck next year. this year is a no garden year, as i am in an apt with no backyard whatsoever. *sad puppy dog eyes*

-bs

[identity profile] foi-nefaste.livejournal.com 2011-05-31 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Israeli salad (as someone mentioned above) sorts out part of the cucumbers and tomatoes. Panzanella (assuming you have leftover Earthling-chosen bread) is also amazing, and uses what you've got.

Also, I don't know if you (or your families) drink, but I made this cucumber juice and vodka cocktail last weekend, and OMG so good: http://dishingupdelights.blogspot.com/2011/04/cucumber-cocktails.html If nothing else, I'm willing to bet the Earthling would like cucumber juice.

Final comment: I'm on the other side of the continent (Montreal), and we've got 3 months of summer (and by "summer" I mean "I wore a skirt for the first time yesterday, and I still had a sweater on"). I have massive garden-envy. It's all I can do to keep basil and parsley growing long enough to make pesto before everything freezes in the fall!

[identity profile] emma-in-oz.livejournal.com 2011-06-01 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
nuke it from orbit - it's the only way to be sure.
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[identity profile] macey-muse.livejournal.com 2011-06-01 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
Ha. Japanese plants are /ferocious/, yo. Haven't you heard of Japanese Knot Weed?

Also, if you like pretty flowers on your veg, artichokes are totally the way to go. (Globe, that is, not Jerusalem.) They're like four-foot tall thistles without thorns, and they grow purple flowers the size of side plates. So. Cool.

[identity profile] sojourner-cries.livejournal.com 2011-06-01 01:31 am (UTC)(link)
BUM BUM BUM. The Earthling has quite the talent for picking out plants that want to take over the world!
Best of luck with your garden... and with all the produce that you're going to get out of it! :)

[identity profile] ashpam261.livejournal.com 2011-06-01 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
The Earthling will be so pleased with all the fresh vegetables at hand!

As well, my family garden has never looked like that ever. At best, our tomato plants hand us 3 dozen cherry tomatoes? What are your secrets TFV!

[identity profile] surexit.livejournal.com 2011-06-01 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
If Japanese cucumbers are the same things that they actually sell in the supermarkets in Japan, then their pathetic weedy nature is the BANE OF MY LIFE and I would not advise giving them to the neighbours. :( They're really skinny and nobbly and just generally would be beaten into a pulp by any normal cucumber. THEY DISAPPOINT ME.

[identity profile] tawg.livejournal.com 2011-06-01 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Every now and then I think about getting my gardener on, and then you post a garden post within days, and remind me why it's a horrible idea for people like me who have no time and less common sense. I'm down in South Australia, where vegetables are drowning and fruit trees are freaking out because the drought is over but they don't know when their next drink will come. We tried tomatoes a few years ago, they rotted, split, and then the plants dehydrated and died.

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