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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2004-08-13 09:31 pm
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Rant: Enough Is Enough; or, Signs I've Read Too Much Fan Fiction

In other words: I've lost it, and it's time for another bitter, mean-spirited, entirely unnecessary rant. If you're still in the dewy-eyed phase of FF love - in other words, if you see nothing wrong with "Harry eagerly mouthed Snape's huge, aching, weeping cock, laving it with his tongue and nibbling it until Snape screamed with his gushing release" - don't look behind the cut.



Let's start with the three that commenters reminded me of after the last rant*.
  • Ghost. Very evocative, no doubt, of a sort of gentle, shivery, not-quite touch. But you can have too much of ghosting in a sex scene; we've reached a point where in some cases it seems to be not so much, say, Kowalski/Fraser as Kowalski/Fraser/Unusually Frisky Legions of the Undead.

  • Card. Again, a term that describes a certain behavior clearly, and we could all use clearer descriptions when it comes to FF. But, really, this one only works if one of the partners has long hair. Even then there should probably be a two-card limit in any given story. And please, folks, let us have no more carding of chest hair. This is only appropriate if one of the partners is a sheep. And no one should take that as an invitation to write sheepslash.

  • Shell of an ear. Unless your character has seashells attached to his head (and if he does, I love you), this phrase has extremely dubious utility. For one thing, it makes me mutter, "Your ears are like petals, Grace! Veritable petals!" And that kind of thing is really difficult to explain. For another, it has been done somewhere beyond being done to death. And, finally, the kicker: it isn't even that descriptive. Seriously. Go to a mirror. Look at your ear. Does it not look far more like a dried apricot or a prune than a shell? It does. So you should not use "he licked his shell of an ear" until you have used "he licked his prune of an ear" at least twice.
And now for the all-new ones, i.e., clear indications that I should be getting out more than I do. Or maybe meditating or something.
  • Sensitized. I happily read past this the first 3,000 times I saw it. The next 3,000, which seemed to pass in a matter of days, had me wincing slightly. I have now reached the point where I am so sensitized to "sensitized" that every time I see it I snap, "What, sensitive isn't good enough for you? Maybe you should try being sensitish or sensitic! Maybe you're suffering from sensitism! Maybe you're just too damn sensitiful and sensity and sensitianesque!"

  • Needful. Is there some Guide to Writing Good Hot Sex somewhere that says that "needful" is a sexy word and "needy" and "necessary" are not? Because even if there is, know that there's a lifetime limit on this word. And if you've written more than four thousand words of FF, you're probably over the limit already. Time to see what "needy" or "necessary" can do for you.

  • Fisting. Do I need to explain why this is a problem word? I do? OK. See, yes, this is a very evocative term to describe clenching, for example, the sheets, usually from sheer sexual ecstasy (but sometimes because your cock is sensitized, or because you're feeling needful). But it also describes a sex act, and, see...OK. I should not have to tell you about that sex act. If you're writing NC-17 FF, you should already know about it. So let me just say: it's a good word. In moderation. But maybe you want to think twice about it in certain contexts, and that goes triple if you're using it in the phrase "fisting his cock," which makes me recoil in horror every time I read it.

  • Flashing. This should be used exclusively to describe the activity involving a trenchcoat and a lack of underpants. The only appropriate use of the phrase "flashing eyes" is when one is describing Scott Summers without his glasses on. Also, tiny hint for you: if your original character has flashing eyes, you might want to ask someone for an unbiased opinion about whether she's a Mary Sue. Because the chance is there. More than there. I'm sorry, but it's better you know, right?

  • People are allowed to say things. Hell, I encourage it. In America, it's a right, written into the Constitution and everything. So no need to be shy about having your characters do it. Yes, "said" substitutes are occasionally nice, but if your characters routinely utter, wail, articulate, orate, hiss, declaim, or allow words to escape their lips, they're being drama queens. Annoying drama queens, if that isn't redundant. Someone needs to give them a good hearty smacking, and I would like to be the first to volunteer.

  • Random word mutations. "Never mind" is not one word. No, it isn't. No. It isn't. Neither is "all right." Neither is "shut up." Neither is "how come." This is not German, people. This is English, and we do not just randomly combine any damn words we feel like combining. We really don't. So stop writing as though we do.

  • Pleasure nubbins. Can we just say nipples? I can. Can we therefore skip nubs and buds and - please god no no no - nips? I definitely can, and I encourage you to give it a try.

  • Cunny, peach, box, yoni, ya-ya, and bunny. (Special thanks to [livejournal.com profile] makesmewannadie for bringing up this one.) If you can't bring yourself to write "cunt," for god's sake don't think these words will let you off the hook. They will only put you on another hook - the one on which we hang people who use terrible, terrible synonyms for female genitals. It may be het, but that does not give you a free pass to write your sex scenes in language five-year-olds have given up as childish.

  • Towering, proud, generous, rampant, and jutting. Cocks do not tower, at least not in my world, and I am sincerely grateful for that. And while their owners may in fact be proud of them, cocks themselves typically do not have such high self-esteem. And, again, while their owners may be generous, cocks aren't usually all that philanthropic. (Yes, yes, I know the ones we read about do love men. It isn't the same thing at all. Trust me.) Rampant sounds like what a male bovine does on a hot day; cocks should not be rampant unless they are on a coat of arms (and if you've ever written about, say, Aragorn's coat of arms featuring nine cocks rampant, or whatever, know that I love you). And jutting is what piers do, for god's sake. Please, either find new adjectives or explore the world of adjective-free cocks. I'm begging.

  • Special note for Sentinel writers. "Hippie" is what Blair is. "Hippy" is what the women Blair dates (or, in your stories, probably doesn't date) are. When you say Blair is a hippy witchdoctor, what you're actually saying is that he's a curvaceous practitioner of traditional medicine. Which he isn't. Unless of course you want him to be - your story. But you should know what you're saying about the boy. (And please don't tell me the dictionary lists "hippy" as an alternate spelling for "hippie." I know that. It does that because people misuse the word so much. But when there's a choice between two spellings, and one spelling leads to confusion and one doesn't, do you know which one you should choose? That's right! The not-confusing one! We have enough trouble with pronouns in fan fiction without deliberately causing further confusion, y'know?)

  • Special note to Due South writers. "Mountie" is a noun. You can use it as an adjective, yes, but only with great caution. And be aware that phrases like "Mountie cock" and "Mountie ass" (especially if "hot, sweet" precedes "Mountie") can derail a sex scene like nothing else on this planet; yes, they can also work just fine, but if you're in any kind of doubt at all, you probably should just skip the whole Mountie thing. And while we're on the topic? I don't know what the hell a Mounty is, but he isn't a member of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. And please don't ever, ever, write a sentence thus: "The Mountie panted as he mounted Ray." Because those kinds of things can strike a person blind and insane.
Yes, I realize you're all thinking I need some kind of sedative, but these things needed to be said. They really did. Or, well, I needed to say them.

-Footnote-

* Got one I didn't mention? I want to hear it. I encourage you to be as pedantic and difficult as possible; it will make me feel better about this rant, for one thing.

[identity profile] juniper200.livejournal.com 2004-08-13 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I've seen "eat out" show up in some of my fandoms to describe a passionate, almost violent kiss. But "eat out" has only two meanings: a) go to Applebee's; b) perform cunnilingus. Kissing -- the tradtional kind, that is -- doesn't even enter into it.
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[identity profile] dzurlady.livejournal.com 2004-08-13 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey! Never commented here before, but I am soo with you on these that I just had to join in. I have two more irritating things:
1) 'Noble rod'. Why? Why?
2) 'Meat'. It makes me think that a steak (or something) has somehow ended up in an improbable place...

[identity profile] sienamystic.livejournal.com 2004-08-13 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
People use...card? In a sexual sense, involving body hair? Carding like you do to wool? Congratulations, you've completely made me boggle. I had no idea. Is it like, a different way of saying "He ran his fingers through X's chest hair?"

I always thought that anybody who used the word "tumescent" was asking for his or her reader to be popped out of the mood, but I don't know if that's a common fanfic crutch.

[identity profile] raveninthewind.livejournal.com 2004-08-13 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Bwahaha! You made me howl at this: Please, either find new adjectives or explore the world of adjective-free cocks. I'm begging.

[identity profile] delurker.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
But you can have too much of ghosting in a sex scene; we've reached a point where in some cases it seems to be not so much, say, Kowalski/Fraser as Kowalski/Fraser/Unusually Frisky Legions of the Undead.
*snickers* *grins*
And, given that dS actually has a ghost...


I loved this! So funny! And yet, sadly, so very true.
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[personal profile] helvirago 2004-08-14 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Rather along the lines of people saying things, rather than spitting or hissing or expositioning them, I'd rather writers err on the side of possibly confusing "he"s than overusing descriptives to avoid it. I myself once read a couple of pages of an eight-part story which used "the dark-haired boy" eight separate times in three screens' worth of text. Rather than "he" or, say, "Harry Potter".

[identity profile] firesprite1105.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. Yes, yes, YES!

To every freaking one of these.

Also, I'd like to nominate using the verb "gobbled" in a sex scene. Ye, verily, I have actually seen this. Several times. Once involving Snape and Harry, and neither had a turkey animagus form. (Ouch. Ouch. Oooh, going to hell now.)

Ye, verily, I have witnessed sexual gobbling, and I have wept. ;P

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
You're so right; the tortured lengths some writers will go to for pronoun synonyms can drive a reader totally insane.

And descriptives are also death to sex scenes. If Aragorn and Legolas are getting it on, it's unlikely Aragorn will think of his partner as "the Elf" or "the archer," and it's also unlikely Legolas will reflect on "the Man's proud organ" or "the Ranger's stubbled cheeks." Yes, slash has an endemic pronoun problem and always will, but even so, "he" is a much better way to go.

And, hey, while I'm on the topic: not only is it better to overuse a pronoun than to go for silly substitute terms, but it's also better to overuse a pronoun than to have pages of unattributed dialog with no narrative at all. Yes, I've seen people do this and do it well, but generally a) the characters do not have such distinctive voices that they can be told apart and b) the author herself gets lost in the dialog and screws up on who is saying what. Pronouns are the lesser of the evils. Definitely.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
How right you are. "Eat out," when used for passionate kissing, makes me think of those horrible scenes in movies where the actors display their true love for each other via a sincere and apparently nearly successful attempt to consume each other's lips.

In fact, I'd like people to think twice before they use "eat out" even to describe cunnilingus. I just think such a fun act deserves a more pleasant colloquial phrase.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
1) 'Noble rod'. Why? Why?

There can be no good answer to this question. And bad ones could only serve to drive us all insane. It's a double whammy, actually; "noble" falls into the same category of "proud" when it comes to adjectives that go (or don't go) with "cock," and "rod" is prominent member (hee!) of a category I didn't even discuss - horrible synonyms for penis.

2) 'Meat'. It makes me think that a steak (or something) has somehow ended up in an improbable place...

Oh, god. It's so true. But you know what's even worse than plain ol' meat? Man meat! Some authors evidently feel that it's not enough to bring food into bed with us; they want us to bring cannibalism along, too.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
People use...card? In a sexual sense, involving body hair? Carding like you do to wool?

Yes, yes, and yes. I'm sorry to be the one to have to tell you this.

Is it like, a different way of saying "He ran his fingers through X's chest hair?"

Again, yes. Or sometimes it means "he ran his fingers through the hair on X's head." It's bad news either way, except possibly in The Sentinel FF, because Blair really does have woolly hair.

And as for "tumescent" - I haven't seen this much in FF, although it does crop up in the occasional "I have a thesaurus and I'm not afraid to use it" style of writing. Often it's paired with "organ," which in my opinion lends an unfortunate and extremely undesirable medical overtone to the story.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, good. And thanks for telling me. I was in two minds about posting this one; on the one hand, I did feel a pressing need to get this off my chest, but on the other, I wasn't sure if it would come off as amusing or just really, really mean.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
And, given that dS actually has a ghost...

That's actually why I chose dS as my example for that one; in that fandom, references to "ghosting" inevitably bring Bob Fraser to mind. And if there's anything that can kill a mood faster than Bob, I don't want to know about it. Or, please god please, read about it in the middle of a sex scene.

I loved this! So funny! And yet, sadly, so very true.

I'm very glad to hear it. Thank you!

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, and thanks for joining in! Comments are always extremely welcome here, and that's especially true in a case like this. It's so good to know I'm not alone in my insanity.

(And I have to ask: do dzur have any relationship to fish? Because I've always sort of pictured them as bearlike, but when I saw your username I found myself wondering if I'd been very, very wrong about that.)

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Ye, verily, I have witnessed sexual gobbling, and I have wept.

Oh my GOD. You have my sympathy, because that is one horrible word to find in a sex scene. As I read your comment, I kept imagining it being used to describe various sex acts, and each image was worse than the one before. Not a happy word choice, that.

Once involving Snape and Harry, and neither had a turkey animagus form.

*snerk* (And if you're going to hell for that one, you will not be alone, because I will definitely be condemned to hell for some of my more unfortunate thoughts and remarks. Hey, maybe we should meet for coffee while we're down there!)
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[personal profile] vass 2004-08-14 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
you can have too much of ghosting in a sex scene; we've reached a point where in some cases it seems to be not so much, say, Kowalski/Fraser as Kowalski/Fraser/Unusually Frisky Legions of the Undead.

Please may I sig that?

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
Of course!

[identity profile] laylah.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
You. Are. So. Fabulous.

This entry, and its responses, have had me in giggles for the last ten minutes. I've been reading the choicest bits aloud to [livejournal.com profile] z_rayne.

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[personal profile] vass 2004-08-14 05:19 am (UTC)(link)
Thanks!

[identity profile] guede-mazaka.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
Overall, total agreement though I have and probably will use a few of these. Writing sex scenes is like grammar usage--you don't break the rules until you know every single damned one of them.

*pats* Go read some old [livejournal.com profile] viva_gloria. It'll settle your stomach.

[identity profile] bear.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
Ohdeargod YES. I understand the pronoun confusion, but why authors resort to epithets when these characters have perfectly good NAMES that aren't being used makes NO sense to me. Why "the Ranger's stubbled cheeks" instead of "Aragorn's stubbled cheeks" It makes my teeth itch.

And can we add "laving" to the list? If I see one more character "laving" another character's nipples, I will throw my computer out the window.

[identity profile] bear.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Oops, "lave" already present and accounted for in the previous rant. Never mind.
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[identity profile] the-star-fish.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 07:13 am (UTC)(link)
Re: Fisting -- yes!!!! Or, rather, no. Because the first time I read the phrase "fisting his cock" I spent about five minutes trying to imagine how the hell that would work (ow, ew, ow). Even fisting of the sheets will make me stop and re-read ...

Re: Random word mutations: another big yes!!! Although "nevermind" as dialog makes me think someone's imitating Miss Emily Litella (from early SNL) and if that's what the author's going for it works, but generally, no. I think "alright" can be blamed on The Who (and sadly, it's in the dictionary as an alternate spelling now) but I hate it.

(I have used "ghosted" but I promise never to do so again. *g*)

[identity profile] faramir-boromir.livejournal.com 2004-08-14 08:13 am (UTC)(link)
Just so you know...you might find a soul-sister (or soul-brother) over HERE (http://www.livejournal.com/users/resonant8/63303.html).

And personally, carded/card/cards/carding drives me up the freaking wall.
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[personal profile] manna 2004-08-14 08:31 am (UTC)(link)
(And please don't tell me the dictionary lists "hippy" as an alternate spelling for "hippie." I know that. It does that because people misuse the word so much.

The Oxford English Dictionary very clearly lists 'hippy' as the primary spelling for both the hips and the lifestyle, and gives hippie as a variant spelling for the lifestyle.


One phrase which makes me blink is 'throbbing cock'. Not when the point of view is the owner of said throbbing cock, because I've asked, and apparently that's a reasonable description of how it can feel. But from a third party's perspective? I've never personally seen a cock throb, and I'm not sure I'd want to. Twitch, yes. Bob, indeed. Throb? Not so much. Likewise, less of the 'pulsating', please.

Since I've got the dictionary open, 'come' is a perfectly good noun, beloved by the OED, while 'cum' is both ugly and totally unnecessary. And 'cummed' is just...no. No.

Oh, and while I'm venting, 'a while' and 'awhile' are not the same thing.

Ahh. Thank you :-)

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