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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2010-08-15 05:00 pm

208: A Long and Winding Road

The One That Makes My Brain Turn in Circles, Trying to Figure out If You Can Fight Destiny or Not. For the Record, I'm Hoping That I Could and Spock and Kirk Can't. Fighting Gravity, by pantswarrior, aka [personal profile] pantswarrior. Star Trek Reboot, James T. Kirk/Spock.

Okay, I will admit it. I love it when there is a slash dragon or Spock Prime in a canon, saying, "This guy is your DESTINY." I like to imagine it with sparkletext and hearts, in all honesty.

But in college, I had to write a poem about what I would say to my five-years-ago self if I met her. And I was totally stumped, because I knew for a fact that my five-years-ago self would not listen to anything I said. Because there are two things that are very true about me:
  1. I don't take advice well. My father once said to me, "I feel comfortable giving you advice, because I know you won't take it unless you were going to do it anyway." I pointed out that I was more likely to take his advice than any other human being's on earth, and it was just that I didn't like being told what to do at all, and he just laughed. A really long time. I think I maybe made his point for him.
  2. I don't take orders well. In high school, my favorite teacher (the detention teacher, which, um, probably tells you what I was like), a retired Air Force officer, blanched when he heard I was taking the ASVAB, a sort of military prequalification test. "Don't go into the military," he said. "Please. And I'm not telling you. I'm begging you."
I have, in fact, gotten much better since then. So, so much better. I am hardly stubborn at all these days, and I frequently solicit and then take advice. I even sat through the Alien Encounter at Disney World even though a character says, "Thank you for your submission." But I am still not 100% aces at these things. So if someone from my future showed up and said, "I know the future, and I am telling you to hook up with this person. It is your DESTINY," I don't know that I could do it. I would try! I would! Or I might do everything in my power to avoid my DESTINY, because no one tells me what to do. Not even myself.

And in this story - yes, I'm back to the story now - that is exactly what Spock does. And it makes me insanely happy. I mean, admittedly, it doesn't go well for him, but trust me: if you make a practice out of doing exactly what you're not supposed to, things often don't go well for you, and you pretty much get by on the satisfaction of at least getting to tell fate and DESTINY and your parents and the crowd and so on to go fuck themselves. (This is why I don't do this anymore. For the record. There's only so much satisfaction you can get out of this, and I have had it all.) And I just - I love Spock, and I love this version of Spock, who is so grimly stubborn he'd fuck himself over rather than fall into line.

(People who are disturbed by the first few pages, please note: I was, too. It all works out, very quickly.)

And let me just say that I also love Kirk in this, who is sort of midway between TOS Kirk and Reboot Kirk. I love seeing him forced to deal with the one person in the universe more stubborn than he is. And I love Bones. And, you know, basically everyone.

But most of all, I love Stubborn Spock. I just want to pinch his widdle ears. (Although this is nothing new.)

The One That Will Keep Me Eyeing the Skies Warily, Waiting for a Great Metal Dragon with Worrying Taste in Entertainment to Fly By. The Student Prince, by FayJay, aka [personal profile] pandarus. Merlin, Arthur Pendragon/Merlin.

You've seen this recommended everywhere. By everyone. And now I am going to join in the chorus, because, people, this is some serious comfort fic, right here. It's just - it is a supremely satisfying romance story, and I don't have any other way of explaining it.

Or maybe I do. [personal profile] norah told me, long ago - I am sure I have mentioned this all to you many, many times - that once upon a time, she was sick and sad and traveling on a train in another country. And she cheered herself up by telling herself a well-loved epic story. (I, being me, immediately argued with her about her choice of well-loved epic story.) This is the kind of story that could make you feel better if you were sick on a train in a distant country, is what I'm saying. (And now I want to see everyone's top ten Sick on a Train stories. Hmmm.)

And I tell you what, having read this story, I am now deeply sorry that I didn't matriculate at a university founded in 1413. I mean, okay, that would have required me going to a different continent, and also it would have changed my entire life, which would seriously suck, but - but. My university only had, like, two hundred years to build up insane traditions, and it's just not the same. (No one tell me if St. Andrews doesn't really have all these traditions. I prefer to live in a world where they exist, not the least because I will now spend my life looking at famous UK people and wondering if the university they attended had a custom wherein you have to walk around in trousers with the ass cut out for your entire freshman year or whatever. If this story is anything to go by, there is such a school out there. And. Um. UK persons on my friends list, I am now also wondering this about you. Just FYI.)

So, yes, the setting is part of what makes this work for me. But there are so many other things. All of which, tragically, are spoilers. So, please, go read this, or if you've already read it (and, frankly, I have to think that at least 98.9% of you have, because this is a justly famous story), comment here, so I can squee with you about the many events in this story that made me bounce with joy. It is taking all my self-restraint not to do that here and now.

The One That Suggests to Me That If Vala Mal Doran and Captain Jack Sparrow Ever Teamed up, Nowhere in the Multiverse Would Be Rich. Sexier, Sure, but Not Rich. Gypsies, Tramps, and Thieves. Stargate universe, John Sheppard/Rodney Meredith McKay (plus other pairings).

As it happens, one of the things I like in a story - canon, fan fiction, whatever - is dinged and dented characters. I like people who have that dull patina that trouble leaves behind when you survive it. And Auburn, in this story, has given me a whole dings-and-dents universe. Yeah, sure, most of the main characters go well beyond mere dings and dents, into the broken-and-put-back-together-with-Elmer's-glue-and-a-couple-pieces-from-the-train-set territory, but everyone is less shiny than in canon. And while I would probably not enjoy a story about how everyone got that way, I really love seeing them deal with it, and live with it, and move beyond it, and get better from it. And live happily ever after. (Happily ever after is not optional.)

Plus, there can be no bad when there are space pirates. I firmly believe that every fandom in the world needs a pirate AU (yes, even pirate fandoms), and when you combine pirates with spaceships, I am very likely to need to run around in circles barking joyfully until I have to go lie down for an hour.

It's also nice - I think nice is the word I'm looking for here - when a story confirms my strongly-felt suspicions about a fictional race. (Any story that disses the Ancients, for example, and I am there. Those people - well, let's just say they pioneered new and exciting advances in ethics-free science, medicine, and government, shall we?) I have always been sort of narrow-eyed and tight-lipped about the Tok'ra, even though I've read some incredible stories that have even made me like them. I just, when it comes down to it, do not trust mind-controlling parasites. It's a personal prejudice of mine! Even if they are supposedly choosing not to mind control right then, you have to ask yourself if it's one of those choices like keeping kosher, or if it's more one of those choices like promising yourself this will be the last chip you eat tonight. And there's no way to tell until it's much too late. I just - I cannot get behind that, no matter how many declarations of mutual non-loathing occur between the Tok'ra and the good guys.

So, you know, I feel good about this story, which in addition to punching my dings and dents button, and my space pirates button, and my plot is awesome button, also lets me rest smugly satisfied in the knowledge that I was right all along, and mind-controlling parasites are not to be trusted.

The One That Proves, Once and for All, That Fashion Is Truly High-Risk. I Know I Won't Be Wearing Scarves for a While. The Scourge of Trion, by [personal profile] ellen_fremedon. Doctor Who universe, Doctor/Vislor Turlough. (No, I had no idea who this was, either. IT DOESN'T MATTER. READ IT ANYWAY.)

I am used to reading outside my canonical knowledge zone, but Doctor Who takes this to a new level. It's just daunting. I mean, Doctor Who has so much canon that the BBC lost some of it. This doesn't happen with your average canon. (Of course, if the average canon is TV aired on Fox, it doesn't happen because there's only 12 episodes of it. Much easier to keep track of.) There's just - this whole fucking fandom is bigger on the inside, you know?

But. If I thought for a minute that there was existing canon that was even a little like this story, I would go out and purchase every damned episode, I tell you what. I would probably even watch some of them. This story is that good.

And, okay, if you are a Who Alumna, a graduate with honors of Who University, with a degree in Companion Studies and a special certificate in TARDIS Interior Design, then this story is totally for you. But if you've seen only some of the new Who, and you always lose at Pin the Companion on the Doctor, and you couldn't, off-hand, name three doctors who wore bowties - this story is still for you. It doesn't matter if you don't know who these people are when you go in; by the time you come out, you will know who they are. And you will want to know even more. (And, if you're me, will be nodding thoughtfully, wondering if certain people on your friends list imprinted on some of these people - Turlough, for example - way back when. It just strikes me that there are certain people I know who would love this guy.)

I mean, I came out of this wanting more Sarah Jane, and more Turlough, and more Martha Jones, and more Jack Harkness. I even wanted more Doctor, and, in all honesty, there's already quite a lot of Doctor in here. (He can double up, see.) Of course, then sanity prevailed - I only have a handful of decades left to me, and I have to assume that Who scholars have to start young and stay dedicated throughout their lives, eschewing all distractions and occasionally making use of limited temporal anomalies to stay on top of their chosen fandom. But my point is: I came out of this story with happiness in every cell of my body. And then I looked around for more, realized there wasn't any (because, okay, I could get more of the characters, but it cannot possibly be this good), and went back to the beginning and started again.

This is - this is everything you could ever want in a story. With whipped cream and a morally dubious schoolboy-businessman on top.
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[personal profile] sinensis 2010-08-16 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
re: St. Andrews

apparently,

it's all

true!

(boy, did that ever make me happy.)
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[personal profile] starfish 2010-08-16 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, thank you for that. So much.

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[personal profile] fox 2010-08-16 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
If Ellen isn't blushing and stammering over that rec, I will smack her until she blushes and stammers. I'm that glad you liked it. :-D
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[personal profile] ellen_fremedon 2010-08-16 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
I am! I am blushing and stammering so much I thought I had better stay in my own space until I got it under control.
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[personal profile] scrollgirl 2010-08-16 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
I was the 4th or 5th person to start reading The Student Prince, having been surfing AO3 just as Fay posted the first chapters, and I tracked her journal closely as she updated the rest, and omigod it is such a glorious, glorious AU with the hilarious and chaotic thoughts that tumbled willy-nilly out of Merlin's head, and the more! awesome! women!, and Lance being a Buddhist, and THE KRAKEN. It's such a beautifully detailed world--the fact that it's so firmly grounded in the RL St Andrews helps, of course, but it's also Fay's wonderful story-telling.

Re the Ancients: I actually have the opposite view. I don't think they're perfect, certainly, but IMO SGA fandom has built up fanon expectations of the Ancients that isn't strictly supported in canon. But then, the Ancients as depicted on SGA are a wee bit different from the Ancients as depicted on SG-1, and I still lean towards SG-1 as the show with better (read: less cracky and unsupported) canon.
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[personal profile] auburn 2010-08-16 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I've found a way to reconcile the difference in the Ancients as seen from SG-1 and from Atlantis. They aren't really the same people. The ones SG-1, and say Daniel, think of are the amazing people who created the stargates and seeded them through the galaxy, forged the alliance with the Nox, Asgard, and Furlings, and did great things. But the history of the Ancients covers huge spans of time that the history of all of Earth's civilizations could get lost in. The Ancients who took Atlantis from Earth to Pegasus were the sad, devolved remnants of greatness. They had lost their moral way and ethics, while holding onto the technology (but not coming up with new stuff successfully, that's why they lost to the Wraith). It's like... Republican Romans and Imperial Romans - all Romans, but not the same culture, though certainly sharing much, even living in the same place. They weren't static.

When I look at it that way, the two shows don't contradict each other in that regard. Which makes it more fun for me.

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[personal profile] dira 2010-08-16 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Oh my God, I spent ALL of The Student Prince wishing my school had had Academic Families and whatnot. ♥_____♥

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[personal profile] ellen_fremedon 2010-08-16 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
And now that I'm breathing normally again-- I am ecstatic that you liked Scourge so much, even without knowing Turlough beforehand. Thank you for the fantastic rec! I am in good company up there :-).

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[personal profile] zeborah 2010-08-16 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Doctor Who has so much canon that the BBC lost some of it.

I'm laughing hysterically because it's true and it makes me sad when I don't think about how hilarious it is.

I like to think that sometime in my lifetime, future CGI/animation will get to the point where fans will be able to seamlessly reconstruct the missing episodes (including the original hysterically-bad special effects).

<off to read fics>
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[personal profile] jadelennox 2010-08-16 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
You know that there are fan episodes to the scripts of the lost episodes, right?

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[personal profile] beachlass 2010-08-16 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Y'know, one of the things I love about fandom is deliriously enthusiastic and detailed story rec/love posts like this one.

New tabs opened for reading, and thank you for making my vacation brighter!
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[personal profile] beachlass 2010-08-16 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
ps - As far as comfort reading goes, fanfic is definitely my happy place, and that's why I'm so thrilled to have a new e-reader and have begun putting stories on it.

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[personal profile] auburn 2010-08-16 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like stubbing my toe in the dirt and saying, gosh and golly and thank you kindly while blushing lobster red. But I'm inside, so at least I won't need to wash my toe later.

GOSH! GOLLY! THANK YOU KINDLY!
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[personal profile] out_there 2010-08-16 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
this whole fucking fandom is bigger on the inside, you know?

*hearts you like crazy*

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[personal profile] jadelennox 2010-08-16 04:39 am (UTC)(link)
I *am* a Who alumna from way back, and in that case, the story is even more unexpectedly awesome. Because back in the day, we all HATED Turlough. I never felt anything other than loathing for him before this story. In which I loved him and found him fully developed and hot. It was *bizarre*.

Also, I am in the middle of the Student Prince right now! Reading these recs was taking a break from it!
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[personal profile] risha 2010-08-17 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
I loved Turlough back in the day. Which. Um. May say more about my taste in men then anything else.

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[personal profile] bingeling 2010-08-16 09:06 am (UTC)(link)
This is the kind of story that could make you feel better if you were sick on a train in a distant country, is what I'm saying.
I totally read the Student Prince sick on a train in a distant country! (Slight exaggeration, actually I was on a train in a neighboring country and my throat was a bit sore) I can totally attest to the fact that it will make you feel better! ♥
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[personal profile] illariy 2010-08-16 11:50 am (UTC)(link)
The author of Fighting Gravity is [personal profile] pantswarrior here on DW and on LJ, she's [livejournal.com profile] mullenkamp posting her fic at [livejournal.com profile] plotamari. Your recs, as usual, rock. :D
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[personal profile] thingswithwings 2010-08-16 11:54 am (UTC)(link)
oh my god, do you realise that those four stories have a combined wordcount of 560 496 words? I had other things to do today! and yet I cannot resist a rec by you! DAMMIT.
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[personal profile] shippen_stand 2010-08-17 05:01 am (UTC)(link)
No kidding. I only clicked one link and it borked my schedule entirely.

I'm not sorry.
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[personal profile] emeraldsword 2010-08-16 12:35 pm (UTC)(link)
was going to skip by the Doctor Who bit until you said Turlough *claps and bounces* He's SO ODD, totally awesomesauce. Also, you might want to try Adric - the male fans hate him but he's faintly Asperger's in same ways so my sister and I LOVE him. He takes everything extremely literally, it's adorable! (and Sarah Jane has her own spinoff show now, which is FANTASTIC and you should totally watch)
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[personal profile] juliet 2010-08-16 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I am about to spend Some Time on a train (& in other potentially stressful situations, though hopefully none of them will include being sick), so I am very very grateful indeed for a list of ENORMOUSLY LONG recs! They are all downloaded onto the iPad (things I love: the AO3 'whole work' button; Calibre) waiting for the train journey now :)

Oxford (my ex-university) has Traditional Craziness, too, although I don't (yet!) know how it compares to the St Andrew's Traditional Craziness.
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[personal profile] fish_echo 2010-08-17 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
(And now I want to see everyone's top ten Sick on a Train stories. Hmmm.)

Heh, I'm already on that! Sort of. Ish? It's approximately similar to the rec set which I'm intending to post as not this coming set but the following set (well, assuming I don't get distracted between now and then). Should I drop you a link when I post it?

And now actually vaguely on topic to your post-- I've read 'The Student Prince' for certain, 'twas a good read, although I really wouldn't mind a sequel-thing :) And I think I've read 'The Scourge of Trion', but I'm afraid to read the first few paragraphs to verify because the last time I tried that I didn't stop until I got to the end of the fic... But if it was the one I did read, it was awesome. The other two have been bookmarked for later awesomeness.

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[personal profile] ceares 2010-08-17 09:01 am (UTC)(link)
I can't say how long the Student Prince sat open in a tab on two different computers before I got around to reading it and realized I was a complete moron and should have gobbled it up instantly. I believe my comment to the author was something along the lines of wanting another 100k of it or more. I mean we didn't even get to see what was on the ipod song list!

I am sad that I have read two of these because that is less new joy but am planning to immediately glomp on the other two.

And may I say thank you kindly for the recs!

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[personal profile] feanna 2010-08-17 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I have had my moments of "I WANTED TO DO THAT! AND NOW YOU TOLD ME TO DO THAT AND SO I CAN'T ANYMORE AND THAT'S WHY I'M INCREDIBLY MAD AT YOU!!" (Does it still count as capslock if I was just holding the shift key down the entire time?)

I have grown a little since, but really, sometimes growing up is no fun.

Also, thank you for these recs. All of these sound amazing and actually to my tastes. And I did read Gypsies as it was being written and it totally deserves to be recced (a lot).
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[personal profile] anotherveronica 2010-08-18 01:47 am (UTC)(link)
okay, this is going to drive me totally bonkers, but - what story did [personal profile] norah read on the train? i know as soon as someone says it, i will be like, OH YES OF COURSE I KNEW THAT, but right now my brain is just pfffffft.

anyone? bueller?

also, RECS! yay! i have not read ANY of these, so i am super excited to start. \o/
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[personal profile] eveningblue 2010-08-22 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I am SO GLAD you are reccing Star Trek fics. So glad!

Also, on the talking-to-your-younger-self tip, there's a very good poem by Sharon Olds called "Time-Travel" in which she imagines herself going back in time and comforting her 12-year-old self. It is in her poetry collection _Satan Says_ (I don't think it's available online.) It ends:

"She does not know any of this
will ever stop.
She does not know she is the one
survivor."

[identity profile] geeklite.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Oh man, The Student Prince. I'm pretty sure that boything thought I was more deranged than usual because for days after reading it I'd remember some little thing about the fic and smile widely.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 04:19 am (UTC)(link)
...That isn't a sign of derangement, is it? Because not only am I doing that - I mean, I'm still quoting stories I read in 2005. So. Um. If Fan Fiction Brain Impingement Syndrome is a sign of insanity...

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[identity profile] dzurlady.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
BTW, you are missing Auburn's name linked in the header to your rec.

Previously I have been so up on my fanfic that I had read everything you recced, but at the moment I am lurking so much that I have not read any of these. Yay for new fic! *clicks happily on links*

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
Whoops. Thank you for catching that; I have fixed it. (And happy birthday, if I didn't get a chance to say it to you on the day.)

These are all SUPER FANTASTIC stories to keep you company in your lurking time!

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a special certificate in TARDIS Interior Design

Totally unrelated (well, at least mostly unrelated), but when you said that, I felt the urge to link you to this heart-wrenchingly gorgeous map of the TARDIS (http://community.livejournal.com/dwfiction/2794749.html). Then again, it's one of those pieces of fannish work that I wanna force everyone to look at.

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OH GOD I HAVE SEEN THAT. And it is SO FUCKING AMAZING. (And, actually, I had that in mind when I wrote the part about TARDIS Interior Design, as I feel sure the artist of that has actually got such a thing. I give you two thumbs up for thinking the same way as me! Unless that was actually mind-reading. TELEPATHS ARE NOT WELCOME IN MY HEAD.) I think the first time I saw that, I actually lost time; I spent a few minutes looking at it and I looked up and half an hour had gone by.

I love it immoderately.

[identity profile] pandarus.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
Dude! DUDE! Here I am gleefully reading your recs (having bounded off to read the Spock/Kirk 'Dirty Dancing' story just yesterday with great delight) AND YOU REC MY FIC!

*\o/*

::does happy startled dance::

Thank you!

(And, fear not, the traditions & all other St Andrews details were 100% factual. Hell, I didn't even address things like the frigid arctic insanity of the May Dip (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv430M_i_jo&NR=1), which is how all the people who aren't Merlin fend off the doom of failing their degree which the ghost of Patrick Hamilton is supposed to bring about for all those foolish enough to walk over his initials in front of the quad, by plunging their pimply flesh into the freezing cold North Sea), or indeed the annual Kate Kennedy March (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB271e7mngg).

Raisin Monday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJngEyA9MF4&NR=1) is evidently still going strong; I remember my own 3-legged pub crawl in Freshers' Week (during which my roommate got off with her partner [who became her Academic Dad as a result] in one of the bunkers on the Royal and Ancient Golf Course, and spent the rest of the term trying to get the resulting sand out of her bed). And the beach parties! We have 3 beaches to choose from, so there was no lack of (freezing cold) beach parties - after one that I organised, a policeman showed up on my doorstep and frightened the crap out of me, because apparently someone had dug holes in the golf course, and I frantically assured him that it couldn't have been any of us, and please not to take me to prison. (Or, OMG, the charity hitchhike to Paris, which I did with one of my mates; it took us a whole day to get to 10 miles south of bloody Edinburgh, at which point we found ourselves in a town so fucking small IT ISN'T ON THE MAP, in the dark, with no hope of getting another lift, in the rain, and trudged, in our damp red gowns, to the distant lights of a pub, where we ordered a drink and said: "...where are we?" and they all looked at us in bafflement and said: "Carlops." And then we asked if they had any rooms, and they did, although they were dusty and unheated and clearly never used, and we had to pay for our accommodation using Travellers' Cheques, even though we were still in Scotland, because we didn't have enough money & had anticipated being in France by this point...happily the next day we did much better, and once on French soil we got a lift from a Frenchman who drove with one foot on the accellerator and the other, clad in a snakeskin boot, up on the dashboard. I shit you not. We reached Paris pretty damn fast...)

In short: St Andrews is even more awesome (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NgzlCr4-LVw) than it appears in the story (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u08s66rS2qU&feature=related). And I &hearts it VERY MUCH.

(NB - fwiw, I have mentally cast the first two gentlemen inside Sallies quad in the 'You Get What You Give' vid as Gawain and Kay, respectively.)

::scurries off to read your recs::

(eta - God, SORRY this is so long!)
Edited 2010-08-16 01:51 (UTC)

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 04:36 am (UTC)(link)
Hi hi hi!

And, oh. Thank you for the bonus footnotes! Part of me is like, "Oh, St. Andrews, how are you so awesome?" And part of me is like, "But - but - I WANT TO READ THE DELETED SCENES WITH THE POLAR BEAR GHOST DIVE." Although it makes me happy to imagine that there is More to This Story, involving further traditions of concentrated - awesomeness. Let's call it awesomeness.

Now I am off to watch many YouTube videos of St. Andrews displaying its awesomeness. With hearts in my eyes, totally.

[identity profile] laughingacademy.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
Omigod, "The Student Prince" is SO AWESOME. I particularly love how it turns out the Dragon might be perfectly adapted for life in cyberspace -- "I understand there are trolls? And I can flame them?"

If you're curious about oldskool Who, I recommend [livejournal.com profile] copperbadge's ongoing series "Three Things about Classic Who." He decided, God knows why, to watch the entire series (including official and fan recreations of lost episodes) in order. It's a very breezy overview, with occasional looks into what was happening behind the scenes, discussions of how the show treats gender (often surprisingly well) and race (...er), helpful links, and hilarious screencaps.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-08-16 04:43 am (UTC)(link)
OMG. I must check that out, and also show it to my sister. (My sister and her older son are the true Who fans in the family.)

...I think I would prefer to be elsewhere in the internets when the Great Dragon shows up. Um. He might be a little too well adapted, is what I'm saying; could turn out a dragon in the machine is what worse than a ghost.

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