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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2011-09-24 03:52 pm

[Review] The Masqueraders, by Georgette Heyer

(Warning! Spoilers, although mostly of the kind where I tell you who ends up with whom, which you will figure out in the first chapter anyway.)

Here's the thing about Georgette Heyer: she hates you. Or, okay, she doesn't hate you, exactly. It's just that unless you are white, English, and upper class (and hale, and hearty, and straight, and and and), she thinks you are a lesser being.

This is actually kind of reassuring to me. See, I read all her mysteries back in my teens. (The only romance of hers I'd read before this is The Grand Sophy, which is on the required reading list that starts with Pride and Prejudice. It isn't second on that list. Maybe 50th. But still. It's there.) I was going through a classic mysteries phase, and I found Heyer strangely refreshing, because at least her antisemitism was only one prejudice of - well, basically all of them. I mean, Sayers (who I also adored) was racist and antisemitic, but totally pro-queer, and it was confusing to proto-me - like, lady, do you hate me or love me? Are we friends or foe? Make it clearer. Whereas with Heyer, I knew where I stood: somewhere way below the bottom rung of humanity. Along with everyone else in the world except Prince William and four of his friends from Eton, which really took away the sting.

But my point is: if you are not that white British upper-class person of good stock and hearty bluffness and a large country estate, the only question for you is which book will contain a grimly bigoted caricature of you featuring every single stereotyped trait ever associated with your particular group. (You have to decide for yourself if really wonderful female characters and great writing are worth the rest of it.) For me, the big ones were The Grand Sophy, featuring a giant festering glob of antisemitism roughly in the shape of a man, and several of her mysteries, which have amazingly stereotyped gay and lesbian characters. (One of them also includes, somewhere around the eighth time the gay guy bursts into girlish tears, an explanation of how childhood asthma causes homosexuality. I am not kidding. And, hey, I'm asthmatic and queer, so maybe she's right!)

But with this as background, you can perhaps understand why I was so riveted by the concept of the Masqueraders. During the Heyer sale, Best Beloved pointed it out to me, and the conversation went like this:

BB: Listen to this one. "...brother and sister flee to London, Prudence pretending to be a dashing young buck, and Robin a lovely young lady."
Me: So, wait. They're brother and sister and they masquerade as - sister and brother?
BB: Apparently.
Me: Why? What possible reason could there be to do that?
BB: Says here it's because of the Jacobite rebellion.
Me: ...Maybe they skipped the drag aspect of that in my history books.

So obviously I made her buy it. But then, in direct violation of established conventions in our relationship, she refused to read it. I suffered the curiosity of the damned for about two days and then gave in and read it myself.

And it is exactly as advertised. Prudence and Robin spend most of the book cross-dressing, and not just, you know, casually. They are walking the walk. Prudence joins a club, attends stag parties, hears smutty jokes, and gets into fights. Robin flirts outrageously and acquires a number of admirers and a lot of petticoats.

This book shows you just how good Heyer was at this writing gig, because she faced a conundrum, here. I mean. There is no actual good, plot-related reason that Prudence and Robin cross-dress. Sure, Jacobite blah blah blah wrong side blah blah treason blah. But here's the thing: if you are, say, Robin, and good enough at disguise to make a convincing lady, you're also good enough at it to make a convincing different guy. (A fact that is driven home by another character in the book, who does just exactly that.) I was left with the inescapable conclusion that Robin and Prudence cross-dressed because they just really wanted to, and if you're not going to seize the day when you're fleeing from a treason charge, when will you?

Which, fine. I am all for cheerful madcap cross-dressing siblings having adventures in historical England! That is a winning formula, as far as I am concerned. But it did leave Heyer with a problem - when you want to write a book about something because it makes your id do handsprings of glee, but you can't come up with a decent reason for it to happen, what do you do? Millions of fan fiction writers know exactly what to do, of course: you start the story with Ray Kowalski already a zebra, or with Erik and Charles already in a brutal space prison, or with Kirk and Spock already tied together by an eternally unseverable eighteen-inch chain. Problem solved! Commence writing your ever-loving id out! But Heyer had to figure this out without the internet. And she still managed just fine. We begin the story with Prudence and Robin already Peter and Kate, and unless you look at it closely - or, okay, think at all - it holds together just fine.

But Heyer wasn't enough of a writer to solve the main problem (from her perspective, I mean; from mine, this is not a problem but a delight) of a romance in which your main characters spend all their time cross-dressing. She couldn't degay it. I mean, if Tony believes that Prudence is actually a guy named Peter, then Tony's love for Peter looks - and in fact is - very, very gay.

The traditional way of getting around this, of course, is to have Tony see through the disguise and realize immediately that Peter is, in fact, Prudence. Heyer has gone down this road in other books, Best Beloved tells me. (Apparently she was trying to win the hotly contested "Most Cross-Dressing in a Single Author's Collected Works Created After 1616" title.) The problem in the Masqueraders is that Heyer wanted Tony to treat Prudence like a dude. It's clearly a big part of the id appeal for her. Tony gets her into his club, invites her to his guys-only parties, and asks her to his house in the country for a week. (Less than a week after they meet, no less. And he pitches a massive hissy fit when she politely declines. There is no actual stated reason why he does this, but my theory is that "visit," in this case, was a euphemism for "fuck.") No guy of that time period - and do keep in mind that Heyer's historical books are "meticulously researched," or so says the bit at the end of my copy - is going to do that with someone he knows is a lady. I mean. Seriously. Not.

But it's more than that. The Big Reveal scene goes roughly like this:

Tony: Welcome to my home, Peter. I invited you to a party, but in fact it's really a romantic dinner for two!
Prudence, tensing up: Um.
Tony: Now let's chat. I know your secret!
Prudence: Yes, okay, fine. I'm a girl. I admit it. You have dragged it out of me with your vicious romantic dining and your sleepy but knowing eyes!
Tony, attempting to control his facial expressions: You're a girl? Seriously? I mean - yes, exactly! I knew it all along!
Prudence: I'm just curious. How did you know?
Tony: Um. Well, you know, various small clues I can't recall now. Mostly it was the way I felt about you. [No, I am seriously not kidding; his entire evidence is the way he felt about her.]

At no point before she confesses, in other words, does he give any indication that he actually knew. And as soon as she does confess - and absolutely not before - his way of interacting with her changes drastically. He stops treating her as an equal and starts giving her orders and making demands and being very, very Tony-knows-best-don't-bother-your-sweet-head. The only conclusion I can draw from this is that he really didn't know she was a girl. And, in fact, was rather pleased that she was not, if you get where I'm going with this.

(It is possibly also relevant that once Tony realizes that Robin is really a guy, he keeps right on flirting with him, and in fact does so more than when he thought he was Kate. I - I can only hope they work this all out after the book ends.)

So basically Heyer, who did not like persons of even the vaguest queerness, let her id talk her into writing what amounts to a gay romance. I find this deeply satisfying. (Right up until the point when women's clothes turn Prudence strangely biddable and passive, and the women's clothes on Prudence turn Tony into a raging dickosaur.)

Robin's romance, by the way, is sadly less gay, but also wildly less ethical, largely because he makes friends with his beloved as Kate but woos her in a black mask as the Unknown. (If you're asking yourself what kind of woman would fall for a guy she has seen only for a handful of minutes, who always wears a mask, and who gives himself the name the Unknown, read the book, because the answer is: exactly the kind of woman he ends up with. I correctly predicted to Best Beloved what her response would be to Robin's disclosures about all of this, and it is, basically: "Oh my god that is so awesome let's do it all again except this time can I wear the mask?")

The Masqueraders just might be for you, if you were looking for a romping romance in which a guy thinks a girl is a guy and a girl thinks a guy is a girl. (And, yes, now I am yearning for a story in which both halves of the romantic couple meet while cross-dressing - she think he's a girl! He thinks she's a guy! Surely someone somewhere has written this. Please let someone have written this.) At least until everyone changes clothes. (Provided you don't mind that the author hates you.) But if you were hoping that there really would be a good plot-related reason for all the cross-dressing: sorry, nope. Still, I think you'll agree that it's better that way.

[identity profile] swan-bite.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
yeah, it is kinda comforting. it's like when people are rude to everyone and they're rude to you, it doesn't feel personal. yet this is why i can enjoy some of her stuff, but can't love her or anything she writes. to me --inspired by your banana ;D-- it's like putting fruit in your mouth and then biting into it only to discover it was rotten inside.

i guess some people are less bothered by that. they just cut out the spoiled piece and eat the rest.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
it's like when people are rude to everyone and they're rude to you, it doesn't feel personal.

Totally. I mean, it still sucks that someone is rude to you, and you're likely to think that person is basically kind of a jerk, but nothing they say really hurts. That's just how it is.

they just cut out the spoiled piece and eat the rest.

I am sometimes better at that, sometimes worse. I AM INCONSISTENT.

[identity profile] girl-wonder.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
The thing about Heyer is that it's totally clear if she'd lived during the internet, she'd have written fanfic and become a BNF. She always hits so many of my kinks so hard - CROSSDRESSING TWINS! COMPETENT WOMEN (until they always fall into the hero's arms)! AWESOME FAMILIES!

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 07:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I really think she would have. She'd have written GREAT het and every fantastic cliche we have, and her participation in wank would have been EPIC.
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[identity profile] ramble-corner.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
ahaha
re:request
The only one that I could think of that might fit is W Juliet manga

Ito the girl character is tomboyish and everyone know she's a girl though but Mako have to fulfill a requirement set by his father ♥

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooo. Thank you!
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This made me laugh so hard.

ETA: And the next thing on my flist was a Princess Bride vid, so now of course I want the Princess Bride AU where instead of promising to marry the prince, Buttercup cuts off her hair and runs off to be the Dread Pirate Robert, and Wesley is a maiden she happens to rescue, etc.
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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 07:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I would read that SO HARD. Oh. Oh. Please tell me you're signing up for Yuletide and requesting this. OMG PLEASE.

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[identity profile] strangerian.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Have loved Masqueraders for many years, although you are sooo right about Tony and Prudence/Tony. The cross dressing is delightful, especially when about half the romances that use this device (not quite my only kink, but a big one) drop it after a chapter or two, usually as soon as the designated hero twigs to it.

The classism (and the rest) in Heyer can't be denied. My main argument here, which is by no means a real defense, is that the books are quite consciously *about* the upper crust's romantic problems, and are therefore framed to exclude everything else. I suspect Heyer, with her research, was well aware that life in the Regency was nasty, brutish and short if you didn't happen to be a London miss with titled relatives, and anything outside the charmed circle of wealth and privilege just inevitably clashes. If structuring the books like that stems from her aspirations or social training to hate everyone who wasn't white and rich, well, that's an explanation if not an excuse.

I do like the constant presence of women as strong characters. It's not only the ingenues, by the way -- Heyer is full of awesome aunts and grandmothers whose morals and vocabularies were formed during the more freewheeling Georgian period. This leads to one of her few over-used plot devices, the introduction late in the game of an awesome and respectable great-aunt who solves all the third-act problems that wouldn't have *been* problems if she'd been visible in the storyline before then.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The cross dressing is delightful, especially when about half the romances that use this device (not quite my only kink, but a big one) drop it after a chapter or two, usually as soon as the designated hero twigs to it.

I know! That's one of the great things about the book - Heyer's id made her own the trope, use it like she meant it. That doesn't happen often in published books, or at least I don't find it often in the ones I read.

I do like the constant presence of women as strong characters. It's not only the ingenues, by the way -- Heyer is full of awesome aunts and grandmothers whose morals and vocabularies were formed during the more freewheeling Georgian period.

Yes, absolutely. It's one of the more disorienting things about reading classic mysteries - the women are so awesome! And yet there's classism and racism and bigotry everywhere. Or you can read, say, modern American thrillers, where there might be somewhat less antisemitism, at any rate, but misogyny rules the day. Arg.

This leads to one of her few over-used plot devices, the introduction late in the game of an awesome and respectable great-aunt who solves all the third-act problems that wouldn't have *been* problems if she'd been visible in the storyline before then.

Oh god yes. I mean, I love the great aunts or whatever, but. They are a singularly inattentive bunch, letting things get so out of hand before they fix them.

[identity profile] deepbluemermaid.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I have a very clear recollection of a 90s movie (I think) where a queer woman goes to a pride parade or something dressed as a man, and meets a very femme girl who turns out to be a cross-dressing guy. They get it on, maybe in a car, and both get a surprise. I'm pretty sure they wind up together at the end.

Unfortunately, I can't remember what movie (or maybe even TV show) this is from - hopefully it rings a bell for someone else! I think they were side-characters, and that the movie/show was mostly about lesbians...the other characters seemed surprised that the woman ended up with a man.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope it rings a bell for someone else, too, because that sounds fascinating.

*stares yearningly at the internet and HOPES FOR MAGIC*

[identity profile] marbleglove.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Hah. It says something about my reading growing up that Georgette Heyer somehow never came across as particularly bigoted. She really, really is. But I was reading a lot of classic science fiction at the same time I was reading Heyer and she just doesn't compare.

But now I too very much want to read a book in which the main couple are both crossdressing and fooling each other while they romance each other. Surely it has to exist? But while I can think of dozens of books off the top of my head that involve a girl pretending to be a guy, the only guy-dressing-as-girl plots I can think of are The Masqueraders, M. Butterfly, and Mrs. Doubtfire.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I hear you. I went the other way - from Heyer and Sayers and Christie and so on to classic SF, and even after becoming inured to everything in the classic mysteries, classic SF came as a bit of a shock.

But now I too very much want to read a book in which the main couple are both crossdressing and fooling each other while they romance each other.

So far, it looks like you'll have to go to manga - there have been a few recommendations for those. Or you could watch this commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wifIhE434YU), which [personal profile] liviapenn linked to. IT IS AWESOME.

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[personal profile] starfishchick 2011-09-25 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
you start the story with Ray Kowalski already a zebra

I ... would totally read that.

[identity profile] spiderine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 06:07 am (UTC)(link)
oh thank heavens I'm not the only one.

[identity profile] mz-bstone.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
I've been reading GH since I was 14 and I've managed to collect a lot of her "regency" and Napoleonic era romances. Grand Sophy is my favourite. But yes, every time I read The Masqueraders I think it's a bit like slash waiting to happen. I keep thinking of the novel "The Shield of Three Lions" about a girl, who's posing as a boy to evade the killers of her family and plead to King Richard for justice ends up on Crusade with the old Lionhearted, and the boy is brought to the King's attention and being who he is he tries to put the moves on only to very discomfitted to find she's a girl. *g*

http://www.amazon.ca/Shield-Three-Lions-Pamela-Kaufman/dp/0609809466

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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Ooooo. I have downloaded a sample, and I will have to check that out.

And the thing is, when I read the Masqueraders I kind of want to re-write it to DO that. So, when Prudence does her big reveal, I want Tony to be all, "Then we can be good friends!" And then he ends up with Robin, and Letty ends up with Prudence. It would be AWESOME.

(Also, I'm so happy to see you around. I don't get to LJ much anymore, and I completely missed that you'd started posting again. Very exciting! Hiiiii! And, um, I don't suppose you are also on DW?)

[identity profile] keswindhover.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 08:02 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, Georgette Heyer - so much brio and talent. I admit I overlook her less attractive traits because her books are so enjoyable. (There's another cross dressing example, btw: These Old Shades, where the sexual politics are a lot dodgier.)

Meanwhile, this is GH tearing into Barbara Cartland, a far ghastlier person than GH ever was:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/booksblog/2011/aug/02/georgette-hayer-decries-plagiarism

I can't begin to describe how happy the description of BC's books as 'offal' makes me.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee. That's awesome. I bet if Heyer had been alive in this era, she'd have been a BNF and her wank would be EPIC.

And she really did have talent. Woman could WRITE.

[identity profile] bittercld.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 08:20 am (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG THAT IS AWESOME. Where is that FROM? I love it!

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[identity profile] innocentsmith.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
Heyer is...yeah. I find that I enjoy her best when I'm reading novels singly, even though my impulse is to mainline. Because as you say, all of the delightful stuff, the effervecence and the charm and the cracktasticness is combined with punch-in-the-face bigotry, now and then, and classism and conservatism. I don't even know.

I do love "The Masqueraders," though, for having such a high level of crack and queerness inherent in the story. And I always wonder if maybe Heyer on a subconscious and emotional level was just madly attracted to queerness and genderqueerness, while deploring them on a conscious level. Because seriously, the number of her heroes who come off as amazingly gay is...quite high, as is the number of crossdressing heroines. It's very weird.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I find that I enjoy her best when I'm reading novels singly, even though my impulse is to mainline. Because as you say, all of the delightful stuff, the effervecence and the charm and the cracktasticness is combined with punch-in-the-face bigotry, now and then, and classism and conservatism. I don't even know.

This is exactly my problem. And I start off with the mysteries that are least problematic (and most enjoyable for me, which is probably related), so at the end of a Heyer orgy I am left NEEDING to finish them but with only the really awful ones left. So I tend to finish on kind of a down note.

And I always wonder if maybe Heyer on a subconscious and emotional level was just madly attracted to queerness and genderqueerness, while deploring them on a conscious level.

That is what I think. I mean, this is SO OBVIOUSLY her id on parade, and let's face it: her id is very very into queerness, because this thing is VERY QUEER. If only she'd been able to acknowledge her interests a little more clearly!

And, oh god, her heroes are SO FUCKING GAY. My favorite is Randall, from Behold, Here's Poison, who is just so utterly gay. At the end he marries his cousin (of course!), and I just cannot buy it, because - the man is gay, okay? HE IS.

He Is

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[identity profile] eldashwood.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
I... I have to read this now. My inner regency-fixated women's lit major demands it.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Read it! It is fun! Until Prudence changes clothes, that is, and then for me it became spectacularly unfun. But, seriously: madcap cross-dressing siblings having adventures! How can there BE a wrong there?

[identity profile] illariy.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Hah. That review was fun to read! I'm not sure I'll check out the book but this review has left me with a craving for Tony slash with either Prudence as a male-bodied boy or girl (Woke Up Sex-Changed Overnight would be a good trope) or some OMC. >.>

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. Me too. I just - I think they'd both be happier if Prudence really was Peter.

[identity profile] margueritem.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 03:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I read The Grand Sophy after you'd talked about the book here and the antisemitism, so as soon as a debt was mentioned I braced myself.

Overall though, I didn't like the main character because she was too much of a know-it-all. :/

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I love Sophy. I think she's awesome! I love ladies who stroll in and take charge. (Have you ever read Cold Comfort Farm? I love that book. Flora Poste is a modern young woman (from, like, 1925) who goes to a typical gothic rural novel setting and FIXES THINGS LIKE A BOSS. It's awesome. So is the movie, with Kate Beckinsdale. I recommend both most heartily; I'm not sure Flora would hit your buttons in the same way Sophy did, so you might like her.)

But I'm glad you were forewarned about the antisemitism. It hits like a HAMMER, it does. Every time I read the book, I'm astonished, because it's so much worse than I remember. And I remember it being AWFUL.

[identity profile] annaalamode.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
And, yes, now I am yearning for a story in which both halves of the romantic couple meet while cross-dressing - she think he's a girl! He thinks she's a guy!

I have never realized how much I wanted this VERY STORY until just this minute and NOW is is the STORY of MY SOUL. AND MY CAPSLOCK.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
My sympathies. I, too, have a painful yearning. There are apparently a few managa with this plot. There is also this commercial (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wifIhE434YU), which Livia linked me to, which is AWESOME. (She's nominating it for Yuletide, and I so want someone to write, like, the epic backstory for that. SO MUCH.)

[identity profile] sothcweden.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
After reading your review, I now want to read the fanfic version of this story that fixes all of the bad stuff, and keeps the hilarity and silliness. Thanks for sharing, since I have The Grand Sophy on my endless to-read list.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-25 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I want the fan fiction version tooooooo. I keep hoping someone will do an AU based on this. For XMFC, maybe. Or Sherlock. It would be SO AWESOME.
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[identity profile] silentstep.livejournal.com 2011-09-26 03:04 am (UTC)(link)
You are- a lot more patient than me. I tried to read The Scarlet Pimpernel two years ago, and I did indeed finish it, but I had to throw it across the room at least twice a chapter in order to do so. It was like she had a checklist of prejudices that she had to get through.

But the evil guy in the movie is played by a very hot actor so it was all worth it I guess?

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-26 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I admit it; I've never even tried the Scarlet Pimpernel. I mean, I am sure it is awesome, and BB certainly liked it in her youth, but - I never got brave enough for Baroness Emmuska. So go you for getting through it! The news about the checklist doesn't exactly make me any eagerer to try it, though. Sorry you had to put up with that. *sadface*

[identity profile] mezzo-cammin.livejournal.com 2011-09-26 02:04 pm (UTC)(link)
This! I gave an oral book report on The Masqueraders when I was in 6th grade! I couldn't decide on this one or These Old Shades (It was my Heyer phase! In stores, it was basically her or Emilie Loring!). Dear God, the looks I got from the other students!! But no one fell asleep, that's for sure!

Your brain! I ♥ it so much!

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2011-09-26 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I wish, I so much wish, that there was a recording of your book report. It must have been EPIC. I want to go back in time and applaud for your sixth-grade self.

[identity profile] lydaiya.livejournal.com 2011-09-30 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi, you don't know me just passing through, but I can't resist a Heyer comment, and I enjoyed this one so much, because, seriously, I've been saying for years that, unfortunate tendency to embrace stereotypes aside, Heyer was a slasher who didn't know it. If you really, really want to see her id writing gay romance, read Simon the Coldheart. She was seventeen when she wrote it so the id was in much in evidence. The hero, we are told repeatedly, does not like women. At all. Is very uncomfortable around them, doesn't really notice them, has as little to do with them as possible. But he forms some really close relationships with other men, including one man who actually gets upset and yells at him once, "I think you love that arrow more than you do me." Not kidding, that's pretty much a word for word quote. If you don't mind being spoiled, read on:

Simon goes to conquor France with Henry V and is set to defeat Margaret of Belremy. Margaret is not like other women. She wears armor and leads men into battle. Simon doesn't actually get to see her do this before he takes her castle, but she disguises herself as a page boy and escapes. He follows and manages to save her from being raped. This is his moment of realization! He has at last fallen in love! He tells her later that "I don't think I really knew you until I saw you dressed as a boy." (Paraphrasing there because Heyer, regretably wrote it in pseudo Middle English with lots of thees and thous and God's bodkins.) As you say, there are only so many ways one can read this. And there is a lot more, but that's the most obvious bit.
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[personal profile] filkferengi 2011-10-03 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Best Review Ever! If lots of Heyer crackfic shows up for Yuletide, will you post links to it?

[identity profile] redfiona99.livejournal.com 2011-10-03 06:05 pm (UTC)(link)
>>BB: Says here it's because of the Jacobite rebellion.
Me: ...Maybe they skipped the drag aspect of that in my history books. <<

Well, Bonnie Prince Charlie did dress up as woman during his escape. To quote wiki - >>Assisted by such loyal supporters as Flora MacDonald, who helped him escape pursuers on the Isle of Skye by taking him in a small boat disguised as her Irish maid, "Betty Burke,"[8][9] he evaded capture and left the country aboard the French frigate L'Heureux, arriving back in France in September.<<

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[personal profile] schnikeys 2022-03-20 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
This was a MARVELOUSLY entertaining review, thank you so much!

Cross dressing: Mlle de maupin by theophile gautier

(Anonymous) 2024-07-05 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
GAUTIER's hero loves beauty; she makes love to him and to his mistress, and in so doing becomes "the unattainable". Gautier who co-wrote THE BALLET GISELLE also quotes SHAKESPEARE'S AS YOU LIKE IT. I've ben trying to find out if Heyer read Gautier. She did read French,and certainly read Shakespeare. IN all her cross-dressing novels did she know what she was dealing with? I doubt she read Virginia Woolf's ORLANDO either.

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