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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2005-03-08 04:47 pm
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Rant: If It's Tuesday, I Must Be Whining

So. Work.

Also, fandom. Because when work goes sour on me (and lady, make up your fucking mind; sorry, but you have no idea how that needed to be said, and the people who know about the violent offenders will understand this comment), I reel into the welcoming, porny arms of fandom (it's my metaphor and I can damn well fracture it if I wish, unlike certain violent-offender-obsessed people, who are not allowed to touch my metaphors, thanks), only to get. Well. Ranty.

What can I say? I give to fandom what I can't use in my everyday life. Which means I give: 1) sarcasm, 2) enthusiasm, and 3) my rapidly-decreasing tolerance of humanity. (Go away, violent offender lady. And while we're at it: go away, violent offenders. Go - offend yourselves.)



Your issues are showing, part one. Everyone overuses this word these days. I do it as much as anyone. But, please, before you drop it into your story, think: is the character a guy who communicates in single-word sentences and grunts? Does "issues" contain one more syllable than said character ever uses? Is the character a seventh-century monk? Because, yes, there are some characters who can believably discuss issues and needs and feelings. It'd work just fine to have Blair Sandburg do nothing else. But if you've got Jack Aubrey or Aeryn Sun using "I feel" statements, well, I just hope your story is about mind control, or the statement in question is "I feel like [killing/beating the shit out of/shooting/firing cannons at, delete as appropriate] [Napoleon/John Crichton/the Spanish/nearly everyone, delete as appropriate]." Hints: in general, if your character is all about action, don't have him reflect on his need to process and his commitment issues. Really. Also, long discussions of feelings that would not be out of place in a couple's therapy session? Not suitable for your average police officer, career military man, or contract killer.

Don't cry for me, dark lord Sauron. It isn't that I mind crying qua crying. It's that I mind how it's used – problem solver, confession of love, apology, indication of character growth, sandwich spread. Look. There are some stories that should feature crying. When a character dies, for example, it is right to have other characters cry. But, ummmm, how can I put this? There are some characters who just don't cry that much, and maybe that's the way they should stay, especially if right now they're crying more than pregnant women who can't stop watching Dumbo. Action is another good distinguisher here. If your character, say, regularly uses a gun, consider other ways he might express frustration, for example, or dismay. (Hint: shooting people, or sometimes things, is a very popular choice. In certain segments of society, and I won't mention violent offenders here, but - oh. I did.)

Your issues are showing, part two. There are only seven plots in all of fan fiction, yes, but if you consistently, throughout all your fandoms, have a character get abducted, subjected to mind control, and made the victim of a renegade biologist who grafts his upper body onto the lower body of an ungulate, that says more about you than about your fandoms. Hell, it says more about you than I really want to know. Sometimes it's more appropriate to seek a therapist than an audience, and this could be one of those times.

Yes, Virginia, you can have too many adjectives. I mean, you don't have to limit yourself strictly to nouns and action verbs ("Jim fucks. Blair moans. Reader yawns."), but please consider the overall effect your descriptives are bringing to your story. For example:
  • Cock: Short and to the point. In some instances, perhaps too much so.
  • Rock-hard cock: Rather cliché, yes, and not exactly accurate, but not excessively purple or unintentionally amusing.
  • Hot, rock-hard cock: We're deep in Clicheland, but we're not yet over the top.
  • Hot, throbbing rock-hard cock: OK, this is starting to be a bit much.
  • Huge, hot, throbbing rock-hard cock jutting proudly from its gorgeous nest of wiry black curls: Ha ha ha ha. I mean, seriously; consider the effect of this phrase on your will to read further. Or, hell, your will to live.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! There. Now I've taken care of it. We, as a genre, are going to meet our exclamation point use quota for the month, so you don't need to scatter them throughout your FF to keep the feds off our backs; you can keep it down to just the !s you really need. (No, don't thank me; the joy shining from your face is enough. As is your relatively exclamation-point-free story.) And, let's face it, you don't need one of those too often. If you can't tell people through word choice, emphasis, and description that someone is shouting, surprised, or otherwise inclined to speak loudly and hurriedly, one of those pointy, dotty buggers is not going to solve your problem. Save the things to follow actual interjections, and work on your dialog skills. Also? Exclamation points don't work too often in narrative; if you're using a lot of them, you may have misunderstood the - hee, hee - point of the things. And, finally, a point I may have read somewhere else, but that is so important it's worth making again: exclamation points are loners. They do not mate. They are not a package deal with their social circles or their families or, god help them, their little heterosexual question mark mates. One exclamation point is all you get per sentence, and it doesn't want any other punctuation as company. So no more !!! – if you couldn't get the intensity across with one, a few extras won't improve matters, trust me. And definitely no more !?!?!; use italics and word choice to convey that the question is an important one, and leave your damn exclamation point alone. It will thank you. And so will I.

Not every pronoun was created equal. So, for example, if Blair and Jim hop into bed together, they should stay Blair and Jim throughout and not suddenly transmogrify into "the younger man" and "the older man" or "the shorter man" and "the taller man." Yes, pronouns are a constant problem for slashers, but that's no excuse for this kind of writing. Unless Fraser is actually thinking of Ray as "the American" while going down on him (And if he is, what the fuck is wrong with him? Because in my experience Canadians don't typically have American fetishes, on account of proximity breeding resentment, or however that goes.), don't call Ray that in a sex scene. I've read so many pronoun-substitute stories that I have a special hatred reserved for the phrase "the other man"; I'm about two days away from writing a story called that, just to make my hatred clear. ("Loving the Other Man," by [livejournal.com profile] thefourthvine, a Kowalski/Fraser amnesia story. Look for it soon!) You never need that phrase in a sex scene, unless you're writing a third-party PoV.

Very soul. What the fuck is a very soul? Someone tell me, because I am flat mystified. From extensive and often painful reading (though, let me tell, you not nearly as painful as the statistics on violent offenders), I've been able to deduce that people have two kinds of souls – the regular or non-very kind, and then the very one, which is apparently the one that's involved in sex and romance. ("...to the bottom of his very soul.") But beyond that, I'm totally confused - why do humans have two souls? Is it all humans, or just the ones in romance stories? Help, people. (And, yes, I know it's from Hamlet, so you don't need to quote that in your answer. It's just – we don't write much like Shakespeare did these days. How did the very soul stick around?)

Mine, mine, mine. Did I miss the memo on this one? Because on my planet, you don't claim people like territory, and fucking someone doesn't give you any rights beyond, you know, maybe a blood test. Or child support. But I've read so much FF that equates fucking and possession that any minute now I expect Daniel to fuck Jack while saying, "I'm a peaceful explorer" and then Jack to return the favor with, "I claim this ass in the name of the Tauri of Earth." Until someone forwards me a copy of the "penetration is a marriage ceremony among our people" amendment to the social contract, I'm going to shout my gospel from the rooftops: Marrying someone gives you rights. Moving in with someone gives you rights. And cosigning on major debt sure as fuck gives you rights. But just fucking someone doesn't mean you own his ass (except, of course, in prison), and if you'd like to think it does, take this moment to reflect on all the people who, by your definition, have the right to get territorial over you.

Be real. Or at least realistically fake. It's called fan fiction because it's about characters other people created. Which means that you should be familiar with said characters. If even I am reading your story and saying, "But he isn't taller than she is" or "Wait, no, they both have blue eyes," you've got a problem. I don't care how you picture it – Spike does not have a body that will win him the next Mr. Universe competition. Late canon Daniel Jackson is not scrawny and weak. Cordelia Chase does not have broad hips. Basically, if I am noticing problems with your descriptives – me, the woman voted Most Likely to Fail to Recognize Herself If She Ever Visits an Alternate Reality – it's back to canon kindergarten for you.

It's a dark, dark world. But that doesn't mean you need to use a black background, people. Backgrounds should be light. White is ideal – the gold standard of page backgrounds! – but anything pale is fine. While we're at it, text should be dark. Let me repeat: dark text. Light background. And you will be blessed and your line will never be extinguished and one day you'll wake up and the morning news will feature pictures of Orlando Bloom kissing Viggo Mortensen, unless you'd rather see them kiss other people, in which case that's what will happen. But this utopia can only come into being if you avoid the Unforgivable Website Sins, which include: headache text (in bright red or yellow or similar), blending text (dark gray text on a light gray background, as a single example), and the ever-popular light text on a dark background. While such Unforgivable Website Sins are still in existence, the world can only contain migraines. I hope you feel bad.

A ripping good time. I know you can tear shirts off people. I've done it myself, actually; I've even done it unintentionally. But the accidental ripping occurred in college, when people tended to wear things until they fell apart (and often even after that). The thing is, not all fabrics tear as easily as ancient concert t-shirts with no surviving legible text. If your character is tearing a good shirt off someone, he's leaving some marks. And people don't always appreciate having their clothes torn, you know. Just once I want to read a story in which the characters kiss, their hands roving wildly over each other, their hips thrusting almost violently together, both half-crazy with lust, and then character A rips off character B's shirt and he gets all pissy: "Jesus Christ. Ever heard of taking two seconds, Caveman? This cost three hundred dollars!"

And now I return to the sweet, sweet embrace of violent offenders. Think of me. Think of me fondly. Or, hell, just write me some Beecher/Keller porn.

Think I missed something? Previous FF rants are here, here, here, and here.

Got some FF bitching to get off your chest? Share in the comments section. I like to know I'm not alone in my insanity.

Hate me and want to make sure I know it? Remember to flame with class.

[identity profile] nifra-idril.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, I read posts like this, and I feel this -- this - lightness swelling in my chest, an utter levity which lifts me above my mundane troubles as I howl with laughter and generally float on a pocket of adoration for you. Yes, m'dear, you are fucking awesome.

[identity profile] cesperanza.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
A rips off character B's shirt and he gets all pissy: "Jesus Christ. Ever heard of taking two seconds, Caveman? This cost three hundred dollars!"

(Steals and creeps away into the night!! *g*)

Seriously, though--this is reason 14000 why DS is a superior fandom. We Respect the Uniform, man! We don't even have Fraser pop a button, because we know that Fraser's buttons are, like the rest of him, very tight indeed. *g*

Thanks for the grin!
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[identity profile] shayheyred.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I think this may be the first rant I've seen on the dark-or-bright-background-with-light-lettering eyesore. Ye gods, I can't look at that stuff. I may have missed some great stories because of the way people post them. Then again, if they are capable of that hideous choice....probably I was wise to move along.

And! The! Proliferation! Of! Exclamation! Points! Word!

And finally, as someone who once read a line about a cock described as "the rosy-headed ivory tower of lust," I bow in your general direction.

[identity profile] lyra-sena.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah yes, the smell of a good rant. Mmmm, better than coffee in the morning. This made me laugh, thanks for that.

[identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
and made the victim of a renegade biologist who grafts his upper body onto the lower body of an ungulate

I was rather amused for a moment as I stopped and tried to picture Dan and Casey in that situation.

They are not a package deal with their social circles or their families or, god help them, their little heterosexual question mark mates.

Actually, no. The "!?" symbol is called an interrobang and was introduced in the 1960's, although it never achieved popular use. Still, I now feel very confident using one of those, if I wanted to, since I can now defend it as an actual, official mark of punctuation.

How did the very soul stick around?

*shrugs* No idea, but I like the "very soul" thing. I just do. (I mean, yes, I like it in a point-at-it-and-laugh way, but still. It deserves points for the amusement factor, if nothing else.)

Cordelia Chase does not have broad hips.

Wowsa. That's a bad one. Such a bad one.

Just once I want to read a story in which the characters kiss, their hands roving wildly over each other, their hips thrusting almost violently together, both half-crazy with lust, and then character A rips off character B's shirt and he gets all pissy: "Jesus Christ. Ever heard of taking two seconds, Caveman? This cost three hundred dollars!"

*snerk* I think I know how the rest of that one would go:

Casey frowned, carefully pulling his hands back from the material. "You spent three hundred dollars on a shirt?"

"It was a good shirt," Dan growled as he carefully examined the edges of the torn fabric, "that I can no longer wear, thanks to you."

"Worth three hundred bucks?"

"It was until you tore it."

"It didn't look like it," Casey said and then took half a step backwards as Dan glared at him.

[identity profile] kelly-girl.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, I think I'm guilty of the pronoun thing but the 'very soul?' I don't think I've even heard of that one. Maybe that's a good thing.

[identity profile] azewewish.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Ouch. *grins* While I am guilty of the light text on dark background website (I know, bad me!), I have to say the rest of your rant brought tears of mirth & joy to my eyes. If I have to read another 'shorter/younger/American/Kiwi/British/taller crying' fic again in my life, I might just go even more insane than I already am.

[identity profile] raveninthewind.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Just once I want to read a story in which the characters kiss, their hands roving wildly over each other, their hips thrusting almost violently together, both half-crazy with lust, and then character A rips off character B's shirt and he gets all pissy: "Jesus Christ. Ever heard of taking two seconds, Caveman? This cost three hundred dollars!"

Oh, this would make a fine Ray/Ray scene, doncha think?

[identity profile] raveninthewind.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
("Loving the Other Man," by [livejournal.com profile] thefourthvine, a Kowalski/Fraser amnesia story. Look for it soon!)

Not "Look for it soon!!!!" ;D

Seriously, fuckin' excellent rants. You speak for multitudes. And about the still far too common light text on dark background Web pages--I can't even count the number of times I've copied and pasted into a Wrod doc to read from instead. I've even posted a link to an archive instead of using the author's site for this reason, as a service to readers of my recs.

[identity profile] fanofall.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Apropos of very little, because I will read your whole post here in a minute: The best line using an "I" statement ever uttered by Aeryn Sun: "But shooting makes me FEEL BETTER!!!!"
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"the other man"

[identity profile] dustandroses.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a special hatred reserved for the phrase "the other man"

I agree, but I did run into one circumstance where I couldn't find an alternative: anonymous sex.

[identity profile] fanofall.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Now, having read your rant, and realizing that I am at fault for half your exclamation-point woes, I can only throw myself on your mercy and remind you that I don't write. I just pimp fandoms.

As for the rest of it, AMEN MY WOMBAT. And can we talk about a synonym for "thrust" at some point? After enough times seeing that, I want to give the guys hydraulics.

Aeryn uses all those exclamation points in that sentence. They're rounds going off....

[identity profile] fanofall.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
It was a good shirt," Dan growled as he carefully examined the edges of the torn fabric, "that I can no longer wear, thanks to you."

So... Whose shirt was it? :-D

[identity profile] claire.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Not every pronoun was created equal.

I once betaed for someone who insisted on the usage of various pronouns in sex scenes. I think I got the point across by sending back just one comment about the scene. "How many people are in this again?" Their reply? "Ouch!"

I've read so many pronoun-substitute stories that I have a special hatred reserved for the phrase "the other man"; I'm about two days away from writing a story called that, just to make my hatred clear. ("Loving the Other Man," by [info]thefourthvine, a Kowalski/Fraser amnesia story. Look for it soon!)

I am really looking forward to this one. Should be good. *waits patiently*

Interrobang!?

[identity profile] laughingacademy.livejournal.com 2005-03-08 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
The "!?" symbol is called an interrobang and was introduced in the 1960's, although it never achieved popular use. Still, I now feel very confident using one of those, if I wanted to, since I can now defend it as an actual, official mark of punctuation.

Being the punctuation geek that I am, I had to look this up, and whaddya know? My copy of Merriam-Webster has it listed as (1967): a punctuation mark designed for use esp. at the end of an exclamatory rhetorical question. As reproduced in the definition it’s a question mark superimposed on a slightly stunted exclamation point. It lloks like the tragic result of a Star Trek transporter malfunction.

Still “interrobang” = most excellent name.

[identity profile] vampychick.livejournal.com 2005-03-09 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
That's exactly what I thought when I read that part of the rant. Best 'feeling' statement ever.

[identity profile] basingstoke.livejournal.com 2005-03-09 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, dude, this is why I switched to Opera as my web browser in the first place. It was the first one to have this wonderful, delightful, possibly-proof-of-the-existence-of-God button that switches web pages over to black text on a white page with NO HIDEOUS AND DISTRACTING BACKGROUND.


*loves on Opera*

[identity profile] c-elisa.livejournal.com 2005-03-09 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
if you consistently, throughout all your fandoms, have a character get abducted, subjected to mind control, and made the victim of a renegade biologist who grafts his upper body onto the lower body of an ungulate, that says more about you than about your fandoms.

Please tell me that's a hypothetical example.

Although it's not really all *that* far from the plot of Farscape's "DNA Mad Scientist." Choosing the right fandom can be a cheaper alternative to psychotherapy. At least, it works for me.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2005-03-09 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you. Gratuitous praise is just what I need today.

*feels fucking awesome*

[identity profile] norah.livejournal.com 2005-03-09 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I feel to my very soul that you have touched deeply, meaningfully, and insightfully on some of my most-beloved issues, and I weep with joy!!!!!!!!!!

Jesus, you ARE my LLMR. You are, you are. Because yes, and yes, and yes, and yes some more. With a baseball bat on top.

And I have a package for you with the you-know-what for you-know-who and will mail it out tomorrow.

Did I mention how much I adore you? *snugs you up* I hope this rant made you feel better, but if I hear news reports of bureaucratic types being bludgeoned to death by unknown assailants in your area I will assume not.

[identity profile] cupidsbow.livejournal.com 2005-03-09 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
It's a dark, dark world.

I find it amusing to track how my ideas change as I progress through the Stages of Fandom. I share your pain for violently inappropriate page colour combinations. I'm a black-on-white girl at heart, and always have been. I like it, and I don't care if that makes me a traditionalist.

However, a sight-impaired friend, who is something of a campaigner about making the world a more user-friendly place for people with disabilities, tells me that white text on a black background is actually much easier to read on a computer screen than the reverse.

I am not yet totally convinced, but keep thinking, rather guiltily, that perhaps I should re-code my website. After all, should I not be an equal-opportunity crack pimper? Don't the blind have a right to easily digestible pornography too?

Thanks for your most recent rec set, btw. I hadn't read the dueSouth story before and loved it. Are you sure I can't tempt you into some other fandoms? I'd love to see what you'd dig up in the wodnerful world of rps.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2005-03-09 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
(Steals and creeps away into the night!! *g*)

Thing is, I wrote that thinking firmly of Danny in SN, but now that I think about it - it could also be the Real Ray Vecchio. Or, with modification, Jim Ellison:

[We join the scene already in progress; Blair and Jim have realized they were Meant to Fuck and are frantically groping each other in an unlikely location. Perhaps while staking out the Volcanic Mountain ride at Cascade's noted nonexistent amusement park, Rainyland.]
Blair: Oh yeah. Oh, fuck yeah. Oh man.
Jim: *stroke, lick, and, because we can't forget he's a sentinel, sniff*
Blair: YES! *Riiiiiipp*
Jim, pulling back: Jesus Christ, Blair. Like it's not bad enough you ruined the couch?
Blair: You, uh - you knew about the couch?
Jim, channeling Captain Jack Sparrow: Sentinel.

So, clearly, this is the scene that fits in all fandoms.

We Respect the Uniform, man!

Yes. Whenever I see the Uniform taking damage in a story, I wince, because the Uniform is, like, the manifestation of Fraser's soul. No, seriously; stay with me. It's like - as long as Fraser is feeling shiny and brave and good, the Uniform will stay crisp and clean and Serge-y. But if he starts taking emotional or mental hits, so does the Uniform. Button lost = serious but non-fatal damage to ego (in the Jungian sense). Uniform a total write-off = Fraser's sinking fast and in danger of permanent ego dissociation. This is true! At least in fan fiction! Really!

I can provide citations and everything.

OK. Maybe it's my own personal crazy theory.

*slinks away*

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2005-03-09 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
I think this may be the first rant I've seen on the dark-or-bright-background-with-light-lettering eyesore.

This is only because you weren't present when [livejournal.com profile] makesmewannadie and I scared most of a Greek restaurant with our Declaration of War on Web Evils. We were two fangirls with but a single thought, and that thought was: light text on dark (or bright) background is the ultimate evil. Permanently looping animated gifs are nothing in comparison. Even tinny three-note background music isn't as bad.

And finally, as someone who once read a line about a cock described as "the rosy-headed ivory tower of lust," I bow in your general direction.

No, no. I bow in yours. Because a person who can read that phrase - especially used seriously, within a story intended to entertain rather than punish - and continue to face new days, even new fan fiction? Is a person of incredibly strength and courage and moral character. I am in awe.

*averts eyes from horrible phrase*

*tries to avert mind, too*

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2005-03-09 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
*downloads Opera*

*loves on [livejournal.com profile] basingstoke*

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2005-03-09 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
My pleasure. No, really. I had to rant at someone today, and it seemed to me that hapless LJ users were a better choice than the Violent Offender Lady. For one thing, LJ users handle this sort of thing way better.

Thank you!

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