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thefourthvine) wrote2005-06-14 03:52 pm
thefourthvine) wrote2005-06-14 03:52 pm
Poll: Come with Me
It's time to discuss a very sensitive topic that I know you will all handle with maturity and respect for your classmates. Yes, it's time to discuss...orgasm.
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makesmewannadie. One more remark out of you and you will be staying after class, young lady. Also, fanofall? Don't think I don't see you rolling your eyes.
Yes, orgasm can be a beautiful thing. When a person (or assistive device) gives pleasure to another person, that's a lovely, selfless act, and one we - last warning, people - as mature adults can appreciate. Or mature teenagers. Whatever. 'People old enough for porn' is the concept I'm trying to get across here.
Of course, orgasm can also be, well, a little less than beautiful. Particularly in certain kinds of fictional endeavors. Because, see, sometimes a person can be reading along, and then there's a sudden incursion of screaming and fainting and smelling salts and Mr. Darcy with a riding crop, and that person might think, "Did I just take a detour from Smut Boulevard onto Victorian Novel Lane? I...wow. I didn't know you could do that in spats." Or that person might think, "Jesus, what the hell is wrong with me? I've never done that."
And yet I know some of you out there in readerland have done that, and now is the time to tell me about it.
I'm trying to assuage my own fears of serious abnormality, here. (Yes, really. Well, mostly. Well, partly, anyway. But I also tend to assume anyone I can hear laughing is laughing at me. I never said I wasn't paranoid, if you think back.) I'm also trying to figure out how often these things honestly happen, and under what circumstances. (Because I am nosy. No, there is no better reason. What reason could be better than that?) So let's remember the honor system, OK?
And, truly, no shame attached, no matter what you answer. For one thing, I included in the list items I could answer 'yes' to, and I'm not going to tell you what they were. (Well, OK. Possibly with begging. The right kind of begging. But then, the right kind of begging can get pretty much anything from me.) This should encourage those of you who can answer 'yes' to any of these to believe I'm right there with you, just in case you forgot to bring your sex-positive confidence with you today. And since I can't answer 'yes' to all or even most of them, people who can't check anything should also believe they're in good company. (You can decide for yourself if I count as good company or not.) Furthermore, no one can see your answers, and you should feel free to comment anonymously. Internet + sex + anonymity is pretty much the recipe for sharing, isn't it? So share.
(Which also means, for the record, that if you folks want to pimp this I'd be grateful. I definitely want to hear from all of you, but it'd also be very cool to get answers from people other than the Egregiously Tasteful and Talented Cohort.)
[Poll #513074]
I heard that,
makesmewannadie. One more remark out of you and you will be staying after class, young lady. Also, fanofall? Don't think I don't see you rolling your eyes. Yes, orgasm can be a beautiful thing. When a person (or assistive device) gives pleasure to another person, that's a lovely, selfless act, and one we - last warning, people - as mature adults can appreciate. Or mature teenagers. Whatever. 'People old enough for porn' is the concept I'm trying to get across here.
Of course, orgasm can also be, well, a little less than beautiful. Particularly in certain kinds of fictional endeavors. Because, see, sometimes a person can be reading along, and then there's a sudden incursion of screaming and fainting and smelling salts and Mr. Darcy with a riding crop, and that person might think, "Did I just take a detour from Smut Boulevard onto Victorian Novel Lane? I...wow. I didn't know you could do that in spats." Or that person might think, "Jesus, what the hell is wrong with me? I've never done that."
And yet I know some of you out there in readerland have done that, and now is the time to tell me about it.
I'm trying to assuage my own fears of serious abnormality, here. (Yes, really. Well, mostly. Well, partly, anyway. But I also tend to assume anyone I can hear laughing is laughing at me. I never said I wasn't paranoid, if you think back.) I'm also trying to figure out how often these things honestly happen, and under what circumstances. (Because I am nosy. No, there is no better reason. What reason could be better than that?) So let's remember the honor system, OK?
And, truly, no shame attached, no matter what you answer. For one thing, I included in the list items I could answer 'yes' to, and I'm not going to tell you what they were. (Well, OK. Possibly with begging. The right kind of begging. But then, the right kind of begging can get pretty much anything from me.) This should encourage those of you who can answer 'yes' to any of these to believe I'm right there with you, just in case you forgot to bring your sex-positive confidence with you today. And since I can't answer 'yes' to all or even most of them, people who can't check anything should also believe they're in good company. (You can decide for yourself if I count as good company or not.) Furthermore, no one can see your answers, and you should feel free to comment anonymously. Internet + sex + anonymity is pretty much the recipe for sharing, isn't it? So share.
(Which also means, for the record, that if you folks want to pimp this I'd be grateful. I definitely want to hear from all of you, but it'd also be very cool to get answers from people other than the Egregiously Tasteful and Talented Cohort.)
[Poll #513074]
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(Anonymous) 2005-06-14 05:17 pm (UTC)(link)I'm always wildly confused by people that scream during orgasm in fic, especially when it's a masturbatory orgasm. (I've never had sex and therefore can't vouch for that.) But - honestly, my breathing changes are barely audible, even for really, really good ones. Screaming seems like insane theatrical overkill. Long periods of black-out make me nervous for their health - I've fainted before (in standing positions, over hardwood floor and hard tile respectively) and it's never a sign of anything good. Narratives seem vaguely acceptable during intercourse (because, sure, why not?) but during wanking.. especially when they have to muffle themselves to stop it.. I just honestly don't get it. What kind of environment does a kid grow up in where speaking while masturbating isn't just plausible (thin walls, etc) but so commonplace that it becomes an unbreakable force of habit?
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Narratives out loud during the course of solitary masturbation. Insupressible narratives. Don't remember seeing that one before. And I'm pretty sure I don't want to, because you're absolutely right; that's insane. I mean, I'm a big fan of talkiness during sex, yes, but I tend to think narrating one's own actions (or fantasy) while masturbating would, at best, be...amusing. Or possibly pathetic.
And yes on the fainting thing. I always want them to stop right then and check the fainting party for head injuries and uneven pupil dilation and breathing problems. And then I'm thinking about possible hypoglycemia, and maybe getting that character tested for epilepsy, while the characters are basking in afterglow. (Or having an angsty fight. Or an angsty "we can never do this again, although you are my one true love" conversation. Depends on the characters.) It doesn't just take me out of the story; it takes me out of the genre. And plonks me down smack in the pages of a medical reference book.
And screaming? Screaming, well, I've known people who did. A few. And I lived in a dorm for long enough that I think I'd know if it was more common than that. I could tolerate the screaming the first time I found it in FF. But round about the 300th time (i.e., on my second day of reading FF) I just couldn't suspend that disbelief anymore. And now I wince and roll my eyes whenever I see it happening, even in otherwise good stories.