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Poll: Yuletide! Yay!

I am very excited about

yuletide, and I've been bouncing around like a crazed thing since I signed up. (This is the Anticipation phase of Yuletide. Yes, there are phases of Yuletide. Yes, I have actually written them down. I know, I know, so pathetic, but it's an important thing to me, okay? I was never that excited about the holidays as a kid, but as an adult, Yuletide makes me absolutely delirious with joy.)

Anyway. I deal with the Anticipation phase (This is actually Anticipation Part One, because sign-ups are still open. When they close, I will start hard-core Anticipation. It is dangerous to come within seven feet of me during that time.) in many ways, but in part by refreshing the requested fandoms list, so that I can admire the shiny numbers climbing ever higher. (Plus, this year, there is a festival of gold and green to admire there. You can even see how many people asked for and volunteered for a given fandom. It is the coolest thing ever!)

But the site went down briefly today. Suddenly, I had no outlet for my Yuletide glee. Hence, this poll.

And if any of you have friends listers who are also doing Yuletide, I'd love it if you'd point 'em over here, 'cause I don't know how many of my own friends listers are. (You all should, though. You get a story! In a tiny fandom of your choosing! And you can write a story that will make someone else's heart sing! And this year there is no qualifying requirement! Go, sign up, and then come back and take the poll!)

Yeah, yeah. 'Tis the season to abuse exclamation marks and the Create Poll function on LJ. Happy holidays!

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I'm not really a fic reader but I was wondering do you know of a group that does vid yuletide? I would join up for that!

I don't believe there is. It would be an interesting idea, though, apart from the fact that vidding can be a slooow process for some of us. By which I mean me.

I get what you're saying but we still have 2 months! If there isn't a group there isn't. :(

Hmm. But - perhaps for next year? Or maybe some other designated time?

I personally was thinking of arranging a vid feedback challenge, kinda like an advent callender of feedback, only distributed to different people. And perhaps with a key day, or a scaled back version, for people who don't want to participate fully. Like a national (fandomional?) day of vid feedback. But that's not quite the same thing.

That does sound like an excellent idea but not quite the same as what I had in mind...

*pops head in*

atlantis_vids was asking about doing an SGA one but, as far as I recall, the organisers asked about interest and then never even bothered to reply to comments so... who knows what's happening there. But it might be worth going as asking them about it if you're interested.

I think a vid yuletide would be really hard to organise because of the source footage issue. I mean, if you have a VAST DVD collection it might be ok, but small fandoms are hard to get hold of by torrenting because, well, the smaller the swarm the slower the torrent. I mean, I speak as someone who has been painstakingly torrenting source for a multifandom vid for frelling months, and Blake's 7 and Starsky & Hutch are not even really small fandoms! Just old ones!

So vidding is a pretty exclusive fannish activity anyway, but add in the need for source footage, quickly, and the restriction of small fandoms, and hosting issues, and the time limit, I think the pool of potential participants would be pretty small. But it would be *fun*...

Oh, it would be fun. They wouldn't have to be full 3 minute vids, after all. I could knock up a minute, minute-thirty vid in a weekend, so apart from organisy stuff it wouldn't be TOO much of a time comittment. And there'e DownTube and Podtube for footage too. Really CRAPPY footage but one can just work that into the vid. And Ubuntu Linux have released their open source editors now so vidding really IS more accessible... We'd need a site, though, and, dammit, a spreadsheet *weeps*.

I'll do a search through LJ for an existing community and just check there isn't one already. Get back to me if you want to do one. You'll have to be front-facing though - I don't know vidderland and it frightens and confuses me. *codes in the batcave, in the DARK :):):):)*

SGA is not one of my fandoms so that makes atlantis vids a non starter. I like the idea of vidding small fandoms and of course they wouldn't have to be full vids. Source might be a problem but I would have thought most people have a minority interest dvd somewhere in their collection. I think organising it would be a major headache. I was looking for something already up and running where my appalling organisational and interpersonal skills would not be apparent. I couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery!

I love Spooltide for a name though. :D

Ah *spreads hands* Oh well! :)

An yes, I'm with you. Well, I'm ok at organisation but I'm hopeless at people. I have a tendency to get frustrated and flail and shout things like "pathetic" and "trivial" and "ridiculous nonsense" . *g* None of which are very endearing or helpful words, really. *facepalm*

I think Spooltide is such an excellent idea. Have you considered maybe posting on

vidding to gauge interest? Or I'd be willing to post a poll on my LJ, since I don't think you can run a poll on

vidding itself, if you would help me haul vidders out of their dusty remote wildernesses to answer it. (I'd also post a link on

vidding, of course.)

And for source, you could probably do the requirements like this:

One fandom from a list (determined by poll) of Biggish Fandoms.
At least one small fandom that you own/can get the source for.
Only one small fandom that you can't get the source for.

(I assume you'd offer, like, three music requests for each source.)

Then the mods could act as a go-between. I mean, a YSI/sendspace upload is anonymous, if the link is sent to the mod to be forwarded to the vidder who needs it.

Or you could just allow people to email you with their source needs, and then post a (members-only) thread where people could provide links to uploaded source.

There are many ways it could work! And it would be so cool. I would volunteer to be an elf, if elves were needed, even though I know zip about vidding. (Although it'd be fairly small, so elves might not be needed.)

*excited about this*

I love, love the idea of spooltide and I think your suggestions are great but sadly I don't think I'm up to running it. Not this year anyway... maybe next?

If you want to do a poll to see if there is actual interest out there then go for it!

I think it's a wonderful idea, too, and Spooltide is a great name. I don't vid, but I'd elf for that.

Yes! I am also excited. And I think you can post polls to vidding, although perhaps it might be helpful to take advantage of your flist-y resources as well.

I totally agree about the options, because it would make things easier. We could ask people to sign up just to help with source, perhaps. And we could have a locked post/email service, depending on security levels, with links to episode sharing comms for more common source (like SGA or SNP or VM or whatever).

I believe it is possible to set up your webspace so other people can upload to it? I think? Anyway, I can look into it and then volunteer some hosting, so that it is more reliable. And it would be anonymous. I say this because I just signed up with Dreamhost and now have 2048 GB of bandwidth and 20300 MB of space, so. (I'm excited! You may have noticed.)

I could cover the hosting, if it ever happens. It does sound kinda cool, although I agree there would have to be some kind of restriction, or possibly 'you can request if you can deliver the source'. Although that would make it less secrete. Perhaps people could request it, and for obscure stuff mail source to third party volunteerers in their area, who could send it out... *head goes boom*

I can't spell. :( That should be secret & volunteers.

Well, people could participate as sourcers too, maybe. You could pair up a sourcer and a vidder. Like, I don't have a vast DVD collection but I do have an 8mb connection (and a hacker partner who writes me bots to crawl for torrents \o/), and there's always YouSendIt. And single episode vids would be perfectly acceptable, I think. So... maybe it would be a kind of Social? Spooltide: The Vidders Fling. Pair a vidder with a viewer somehow- they could collaborate as much or as little as they wanted - beta-ing...hmm.

I think the only way it would work would be to expand the pool of participants somehow. Maybe a buddy system *would* work - it'd be a great way to get more people into/involved in/included in vidding, actually - short vids, guaranteed audience, built-in-beta, a mix of experienced vidders and newbies... I could throw together a guide to free and open source vidding software no problem and the organisers would have to be open to doing some technical support but that's ok. I have long since come to terms with my duty as tech support for the world at large. *g*

Hmm. Yes. Maybe if we got people to make several requests, like Yuletide, but ask that at least one is for something well known/easy to get hold off, as a fallback if vidders can't get source/inspiration.

And I'm sure people would be interested in helping out even if they weren't vidding! Like arranging sorce, or betaing or whatever.

And there'd definetly be interest from newbies.

Spooltide is a fantastic name. :)

I would be willing to help organise it, but my vidding knowledge is only beginning to move into 'intermediate' from 'ok, I've opened the program! ...now what?' so I'd be of limited help there.

I offered further (vaguely incoherent) ideas for source connections in Spooltide here (http://thefourthvine.livejournal.com/64503.html?thread=2483447#t2483447). It's such a cool idea, and I think it would be totally possible next year.

Maybe even this year, especially if you made the deadline at the end of January. (It doesn't have to be on Christmas day just 'cause it's called Spooltide, right?)

Maybe a buddy system *would* work - it'd be a great way to get more people into/involved in/included in vidding, actually - short vids, guaranteed audience, built-in-beta, a mix of experienced vidders and newbies.

If you do this, I totally want to be a buddy. (Although your problem would likely be finding vidders, not buddies.) And I would also help with whatever stuff I could. Which is not much, admittedly.

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PS. Also, we could call it Spooltide. I'll do almost anything for a bad pun. *g*

serenity_santa was/is a mono-fannish holiday exchange of wallpapers, icons, vids and fic. (the current mods are looking for new mods, it may or may not return this year).

It's the only "secret santa" project that I know of that included vids, although it is possible that there was a QAF(US) one too.

Vid Yuletide (many obscure fandoms) sounds ... complicated to organize. (I had a lot of difficulty matching up feedbacker's with vid fandoms once forr a fb challenge).

A mono-fannish or linked fandoms (e.g. jossverse) or otherwise strictly defined set of fandoms (SciFi? Movies only? New tv shows only?) might be do-able.

Of course, Yuletide used to encourage people to list every rare fandom they could think of. The switch to "suggest 6 fandoms: three to request, three to write" and limiting the suggestions to people who were actually going to participate should create a list or potential fandoms that is more easily matched.

I did find a spn santa and a veronica mars one but they didn't really seem geared towards vidders it was all fanfic.

Oh well maybe next year! I've got a ton of other stuff to be doing anyway.

I don't know of one, no - there are some single-fandom communities where vids can be part of the gift exchange, but that's about the closest I can think of. And that isn't really very close.

I tell you what, though; that would be excellent for next year, if you could find enough people who want to do it. (You'd have to start earlier, though. Like maybe September. And possibly allow vidlets.)

It's actually kind of sad that vidders don't have much in the way of holiday exchanges. Do artists? I know you make gorgeous icons and wallpapers and so on.

Hmmm. I've never really looked beyond story exchanges. Must ponder.

*ponders*

I am not really into the art side of fandom... I make the arts but I don't really get involved in the whole "community" deal. So, not sure what exchanges they have going on there.

Maybe a vid exchange will be be something to consider next year. *ponders*

If you do any kind of exchange, this year or next, please let me know. It's exciting! And I'd want to tell everyone about it! Unless you said not to!

If I do find something then I will let you know. :D

I don't know how I missed this thread. I really like this idea. Obviously, as already discussed, it would be a bit more difficult to organize. I would be willing to help out if there is interest in a vid exchange. Another idea for requesting might be to include large fandoms, but only for minor or under vidded characters. That way more vidders might already have the source they need. Just a thought.

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