thefourthvine | I wanna know what love is; I want you to show me.

Older fandoms, you confuse me so. The story I'm reading right now has piercing gazes, searing gazes, cuddling, comforting, lengthy descriptions of eyes that change color (Green! Hazel! Gold! No, I'm not kidding - really, gold, and this isn't the right fandom for him to have been implanted with a Goa'uld.), marriage proposals, men of action sharing their feelings in astonishing detail and with great (sometimes searing) honesty, a guy telling another guy how beautiful he is, holding hands, kissing, and two adult men (of action!) with extensive disposable incomes living together and sharing a bed.

And it's gen.*

I am patiently waiting for the mutual declarations of eternal love while hugging (or crying; I'd totally take crying) in the rain. Then, and only then, will I be able to stop reading.

So, does anyone have a story from an older fandom to recommend to me? You people have mostly been at this longer than me - surely you've got some nice gen or slash story favorite from a pre-LJ fandom that you could link me to. Gen or slash welcome - especially gen that I can read as gen. Seriously. Save me from myself. And this story. I am just bewildered, here.

-Footnote-

* Another gen story in the same fandom (but by a different person) features a noted canonical horndog turning down NSA sex with a beautiful woman because he's in love with someone else - that someone being, of course, the guy who is his Entirely Not Slashy Totally Hetero Life Partner. (It also had a paragraph about their great and abiding love, and the Totally Hetero Life Partner isn't even in the story. Nor is there any explanation of why the THLP would want his "friend" to turn down the sex - I mean, seriously, it was just presented as "this is what you do when you're in love with your THLP, forswear sex and cleave only unto him, but in a straight and manly way." I guess I am just not straight enough to understand that.) And the author's note contained a diatribe against slash. Oh, my people.

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what the hell fandom IS that? (I'd totally read it.)

Also, I love love LOVE this story: Visual Aid (http://grapefruithead.com/ourboys/va.txt) by Charlemagne. - Sports Night, Dan/Casey with the "I am straight! But I have a life-size picture of my best friend in my bedroom! I touch myself while I look at it! OMG!" angst. It's awesome. I dub it pre-LJ since the fandom was not primarily on LJ at the time, and the show has since been canceled (woe).

There is no gen in Sports Night - even the "gen" stories are slashy. Such is the way of the Sorkin.

That is my 2nd favorite Sports Night story of all time. It has the best Dan/Casey kiss ever.

Oh my god I love it so much.

(Also, the entire Our Boys (http://grapefruithead.com/ourboys) archive is hours of fun.)

Oh, god, I love Visual Aid. It's so fabulous. And now you've made me want to re-read it, which is a great blessing, because a) it's way better than the story I was reading for most of last night (see above) and b) it's short, so I'll be able to get some work done soon.

There is no gen in Sports Night - even the "gen" stories are slashy.

You're talking to someone who wrote a gen story in which Dan plots to destroy Casey's love life (and his diet), and who is currently writing a gen story in which Dan and Casey are experiencing homophobia in the workplace. (No, really. It's...a long story, at this point.) So I am forced to agree with you: the Sorkinverse is just that slashy.

But then, I totally write my SN stories from the perspective of They Are So Doing It. I mean, I don't come out and say they're in a relationship, but in my heart, I believe it with every fiber of my being. Oh Danny! Oh Casey! Yours is the forever love.

*wistful sigh*

Yours is the forever love.
That is one of the cornerstones of my overall fannish house.
1. Dan and Casey are in love (or sometimes, Dan is in love, and Casey hasn't figured it out yet)
2. Lee Stetson and Amanda King had the best UST and RST ever, and until Farscape, no show captured it as well as Scarecrow & Mrs. King (showing age now)
3. JC and Lance were totally doing it in Germany.
4. Everyone was in love with Scully.

And yes - I now have Visual Aid open in a new tab to read at lunch. BECAUSE IT'S THAT GOOD. And now I want to read your fic.

Oh god, Scarecrow & Mrs King. My love knows no bounds.

Everything I type after that sentence just descends into gibbering glee. Thank you for showing me the blueprints of your fannish house.

You're welcome! It's a nice house to live in.

Scarecrow & Mrs. King!! Dear God, when, when will that be released on DVD???

I know! I mean, REALLY. We can get shows that no one watched, but no Lee & Amanda? There is no justice.

oh, man, i used to watch Scarecrow & Mrs King with my mom all the time. that show RULED. that show is the entire reason i started watching Babylon 5, actually....

It was so awesome! Perfect 80s show, and the first one I was ever fannish about. Of course, I didn't know fandom even existed at the time.

Look at all the fans!! How is this show not on DVD?? (Except for yours, that is. *g*)

ICON!

who is currently writing a gen story in which Dan and Casey are experiencing homophobia in the workplace

i will so totally read this story.

i am just telling you right now, so that you know the pain you are putting me through by not finishing it. THE PAIN. WOE. also, WOE.

fyi!

i am just telling you right now, so that you know the pain you are putting me through by not finishing it.

I now fully understand the gravity of the situation. I will not rest!

...Okay, I probably will rest. But I'm going to make every effort to have it finished by

kormantic's birthday. Um. If that helps.

i s'pose i must live with it. tragically. and with copious beer to help me through.

There is no gen in Sports Night - even the "gen" stories are slashy. Such is the way of the Sorkin.

HEE! Does that mean I'm the only person ever who wrote non-slashy gen (http://community.livejournal.com/tickettyboo/10067.html)?! *wears gold star*

I've never read Sports Night fic or watched Sports Night and I think I'm going to have to start. That was good! Thanks! (for giving me a new fandom to explore when I should be writing papers and studying.)

oh, that's awesome - it's such a wonderful show. A note: there is a really annoying laugh track in the first few episodes. Ignore it - it goes away. Also, a fun game is to play "what lines did Sorkin steal from himself?" because there are a lot of lines that he carried over into The West Wing. Hell, entire plots were carried over.

Enjoy!

New people watching Sports Night is always of the good. When you're done watching, or even before, the best place nowadays to check out fiction is

snarchive - there used to be an even better archive on Trickster, but it died, and there was much sorrow - and the links in the memories of

crack_van are worth checking out, too.

I've written completely gen SN, actually. Although it was the exception, rather than the rule.

I wanna know what love is; I want you to show me.

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