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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2004-05-06 02:04 pm

Fandoms I Have Loved 3: Pirates of the Caribbean

No law says I have to do my fandoms in chronological order, folks. And when I realized I had a set of drunkfics waiting to be nominated and I had a PotC FIHL post ready to go - well, who am I to ignore what is clearly the mandate of fate?

This is my longest FIHL yet, so it should be no surprise to anyone that this is the fandom I know the least about. I probably don't know enough about it to consider myself a real fan, even. And there's two reasons for that: Disneyland and Orlando Bloom. Let's take them in order, shall we?



I've spent a lot of time at Disneyland over the years; probably more than is entirely healthy. And the Pirates of the Caribbean ride is long, air-conditioned, fun, and suitable for all ages. So I've also spent a lot of time on that ride, which is a good thing, really. Except that it sort of gets in the way when I'm reading FF. After the first story, I find myself humming "Yo ho, yo ho, a pirate's life for me." After the second story, I’m informing the world at large that "Dead men tell no tales." Third story, and I'm ordering all bloomin' cockroaches to strike their colors. A person can only recite dialog from a Disneyland ride for so long before she begins to doubt her sanity, and I have enough doubts about that already, thanks. So I really have to limit the time I spend with Jack Sparrow, Elizabeth, and Will et al.

Which brings me to my other problem with this fandom. Will is a thinly-disguised (and just plain thin) Orlando Bloom, and if you've ever read this blog before today you'll know why that doesn't work for me. I just can't buy seductive Will, or sweet Will, or smart Will. About the only Will I've really been able to buy, I'm afraid, is dead drunk Will. Who is, at any rate, good company for Jack. But, again, there's only so many drunkfics that can pass before my eyes before I'm ready for something a little more sober – you know, a nice angsty Spike/Xander, or some kinky Fraser/Kowalski. Or, hell, an absolutely appalling Dangermouse/Penfold. (Yes, there is one, and yes, it is rated NC-17, and no, I won't link to it; if you want to scar yourself forever, you can do it through Google like everyone else. Talk about the loss of childhood innocence; that single fic did more psychological damage to me than my entire sixth grade year.)

So I don't know PotC as well as I'd like. But, hey, it's a fandom of mine, and I love it as I love all fandoms, so I'm writing about it. As always, though, people with useful information or snarky remarks should comment; this is all about dragging newbies into our fandoms and mocking the characters we love, folks. Feel free to join in.

-Helpful Links for the PotC Newbie-


If you don’t know the canon, you can fake it with:

Look, just rent the movie. It'll be two hours out of your life. It'd take you longer to figure out the fandom from secondary sources than it would to see everything the canon has to offer.

You won't, you say? You have an undead-pirate phobia? You're repelled by exceedingly slender British females who nonetheless wear corsets? Your loved ones have threatened to commit you if you make them watch one more film featuring Johnny Depp? OK, no problem, I'll help you out. Here's everything you need to know.

The Characters:

JACK SPARROW is a swashbuckling (in all senses of the word) pirate; he has beaded facial hair, gold teeth, a strange sashay, and the eerie ability to turn even the worst script into riveting box office gold.

WILL TURNER is a swashbuckling (in no senses of the word) blacksmith; he has alarmingly wispy facial hair, straight and even teeth, a straight and even walk, and a straight and even way of delivering his lines.

ELIZABETH SWANN is a thin (in all senses of the word) anachronistically spunky upper-class young lady; she has gorgeous hair (not, of course, on her face), gorgeous teeth, gorgeous posture, and a fruity accent that almost conceals her ability to act. She also has a father, who ponces.

NORRINGTON is an uptight Navy officer who is inexplicably posted on land; he wears the Powdered Wig of Pomposity, never shows his teeth under any circumstances, walks with exceptionally magisterial bearing, and manages to be somewhat charming even though the filmmakers had all character surgically removed from him in a Tijuana alley just after dark by a red-headed man named Boldo and his three strangely androgynous teen-aged assistants.

BARBOSSA is an evil undead pirate; he has scraggly hair all over the place, chips in his teeth from all the scenery-chewing he does, a fixation on apples, and an excellent growl. He also has a pirate crew.

THE BLACK PEARL is Jack Sparrow's love interest; she's got a fine figure, she's very fast, and she likes vigorous scrubbing and the company of pirates.

THE MONKEY is evil. Do not taunt the monkey. Do not go near the monkey. We fear the monkey, oh yes we do.

The Plot:

Barbossa once stole the Black Pearl from Sparrow's loving hands. Sparrow is determined to get her back. Norrington, the dastard, has proposed to Elizabeth, even though Will Turner, who is younger and supposedly cuter, loves her. Turner uses his youthful form and manly wiles to persuade Sparrow to help him recover Elizabeth; Sparrow uses his twisted mind and wiliness to make sure he gets the Black Pearl back, too.

Adventures ensue. Jack and Elizabeth are trapped on an island and she takes advantage of him. Jack and Will spend a great deal of time on boats, on unprincipled islands, and on demand; they fight pirates that cannot die, bugger about with the British Navy (probably not literally), and wave their swords at everyone in sight. Planks are walked, treasures are fondled, apples are eaten, dresses are worn, and canons are fired. To no one's surprise, it all works out about five minutes before the movie ends.

At the end, Will rescues Jack from hanging just in time to show him his excellent new hat. Norrington lets Jack go just in time to admit that he was never man enough for Elizabeth, and now she's not man enough for him. Elizabeth manages to get Will's mind off his hat just long enough to kiss him. Jack closes the movie caressing and singing to his Pearl. And they all live happily ever after until the sequel comes out in 2006, except Barbossa, who is dead.

There. That should hold you. On to the fics, hmmm?

Where to start with Pirates fanfiction:

With porn, my precious. With porn. Preferably with porn that's longer than 250 words, which is tougher to find in this fandom than you'd think. And please note that, as with all FIHL entries, these are stories I've mostly nominated before. I pick 'em for their kindness to beginners, not their freshness to the experienced and jaded.

Where to Begin If You Like Your Porn to Feature Fantasy and Masturbation: Breathless and Breathless Too, by Gloria Mundi, aka [livejournal.com profile] viva_gloria. Jack/Norrington. Sort of. These marvelous, strange stories (each one is 1,200 words and one sentence long) give you an excellent idea of the characters of Jack and Norrington, and PotC FF is really all about character. No, sorry, it's all about sex. But in-character sex, and that's what you have here.

Where to Begin If You Like Your Porn to Feature Jack Davenport: Jjail, by [livejournal.com profile] firesignwriter. Jack/Norrington. Warning: this is a work in progress. We all need to send messages to [livejournal.com profile] firesignwriter asking her to finish this, because this is a great story that squeezes a lot of perfect characterization into the spaces between the sex. It's longer than most PotC stories, even only half-done, so you get a real sense of the characters, too. (Note that Jack and Norrington never find themselves in jail in the actual canon; that's all the author's idea.)

Where to Begin If You Like Your Porn to Feature Orlando Bloom: Hurricane Jack, by [livejournal.com profile] shrift. Jack/Will. This is another one where everyone is solidly in-character. And it's a drunkfic, of course; someday I'm going to have to branch out to other kinds of Jack/Will. But there's no need for you to, since drunk Will is probably the best kind of Will there is, and drunk Jack is absolutely identical to sober Jack (if there is any such beast).

[identity profile] viva-gloria.livejournal.com 2004-05-09 02:13 pm (UTC)(link)
You are far too kind to me (and to those two overpunctuated things) but I'm certainly not complaining!

And will you really read whatever I write?

Bwa ha ha ha ha ... Dick Whittington / Puss-in-Boots. On my LJ.

Am longing to discover the identity of your favourite Will-fic, the one that's a Sparrington: so far you've recced a lot of good things I've missed in other fandoms.

Thank you for existing! Oh, and for setting up this journal. Obviously.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-05-12 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, don't knock the overpunctuated. I've convinced two people to read PotC using only those two stories. (Apparently those of us with English and editing compulsions really get off on intentional and skillful abuse of the language. There's just something so titillating about seeing someone loose grammatical anarchy deliberately. Hey, you've uncovered a new kink - grammar BDSM!)

And, yes, I did read your terribly evil Dick Whittington/Puss-in-Boots story. And I loved it, even though I started reading just to prove to myself that I wouldn't like it at all. It was the perfect reworking of a fairytale, and I thought it captured just enough of the feel of original fairytales, which are so much darker and dirtier than anything we could handle today.

What particularly got me, though, was the voices. Puss's voice - salacious, scoffing, self-satisfied, etc. - was so perfect, because a cat would talk like that. I see that now. And Dick Whittington is just the rich combination of naive and bright, the archetypal fairytale lad.

I loved the way you told the story, too, although I could've done with a slightly slower revelation of the secret. But, no, I couldn't have, because the revelation is all in the details, and I liked the details too much to want to see any of them left out.

So I just must say wow. It's not fair that you can make that sort of thing work. But, yeah, it's official. I'll read any FPS you write. (I'm not anti-RPS, but I usually can't read it, 'cause it makes me geechy. Don't even know why, exactly, but it does.)

[identity profile] viva-gloria.livejournal.com 2004-05-13 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I loved it, even though I started reading just to prove to myself that I wouldn't like it at all.

This is one of the nicest comments I've ever had! And I agree re the pacing, but it felt wrong to string it out unnecessarily (also, Dick was upset about his lost cat. Personally I think a pretty red-headed bedmate is great most of the time, but there are times when a cat is far better company).

I think that last para counts as punctuation abuse. Am so taken with your term 'grammar BDSM' that I have to write another one. But it's a cheat really: I have always used run-on sentences in sex scenes. They just seem to match the whole breathless, hurtling sensation.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2004-05-14 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
I have always used run-on sentences in sex scenes. They just seem to match the whole breathless, hurtling sensation.

Yup. When I started reading FF, I was driven insane by the way people wrote sex scenes, because I am a pedantic bitch. But then I compared some good stories with fantastic sex scenes and ones with sex scenes that were merely mediocre, and one of the (many) things I realized is that sex is not written the way other narrative is. And every author has to come up with a way to write the specialness that is sex (eeewww, what a phrase, but it's late - forgive me, please). Very good authors typically have a style just for sex scenes.

And one of the keys to writing good sex (I think - I mean, god knows I couldn't write a sex scene to save my life) is pacing. That means building up to things, using a sort of compositional foreplay, so that by the time the characters are ready for things to get hot and heavy the reader is, too, but it also means conveying the way sex builds in intensity. Punctuation abuse and run-on sentences and so forth, things we'd consider problems in most kinds of writing, work very well for that, as you said, hurtling, gasping, racing-to-the-end feeling.

In many ways, writing sex seems to me to have a lot in common with writing poetry. Punctuation becomes a tool for controlling the way the reader reads, controlling rhythym and breath and speed and focus, rather than simply a means of ensuring the most accurate and facile exchange of information. The usual rules of grammar and usage are suspended in favor of conveying feeling and meaning.

OK, really, I'm stopping now. Obsession is no excuse for writing a really boring essay in response to a single sentence on a comment page.

Am so taken with your term 'grammar BDSM' that I have to write another one.

Yes! Yes, you do.

And I agree re the pacing, but it felt wrong to string it out unnecessarily

Actually, I wasn't clear on that. What I wanted, initially, was a slightly slower revelation during the three pre-London sex scenes. But then I realized that it's the details that clue in the reader well before Dick gets it - the way the men taste, the sharpness of their fingernails, the stripes, etc. And I loved those details, because they were so exactly right for the whole cat/man concept; I wouldn't want to lose any. So it's better the way it is.

Not that you needed, like, my permission or anything.

[identity profile] viva-gloria.livejournal.com 2004-05-15 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
I think the run-on sentence can be abused as a method of writing sex scenes -- and there are certainly other techniques that work, see Elizabeth Benedict's The Joy of Writing Sex! -- but it works for me, even though it also feels like cheating.

And I suppose if you get the reader panting and gasping, you're halfway there.

Your comment is not a 'really boring essay'! It's a discussion, and one that has grabbed my attention. So there.

And I have dedicated this (http://www.livejournal.com/users/viva_gloria/115992.html) to you ...

(Actually, there's another one in the works, just need to read it through without suffocating!)