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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2010-02-08 09:57 pm

201: Sometimes You Just Have to Rec

The One That Will Give You Flashbacks to the 1980s, Even If You Didn't Live Through Them. Kings of the Air, by [livejournal.com profile] fabularasa. Top Gun, Iceman/Maverick.

Okay. So. Two years ago, for reasons that do not need exploring at this juncture, I re-watched Top Gun. I had not seen that movie in a long, long time. It, um, looked a lot different the second time around. (This resulted, by the way, in a never-posted Top Gun recap that would probably have broken the LJ post character limit, and 30% of those characters were along the lines of "RANDOM GAY VOLLEYBALL PORN OH MY GOD ARE THEY FUCKING KIDDING?")

Anyway. My point is: this is the story for that movie. This is what they were working towards the whole movie, even if they didn't know it (although, Jesus - how could they NOT know, given all that random gay porn?). This is the only story you need to read for this fandom. Although I myself would not mind several thousand more stories exploring the really gay, not really subtext of Top Gun, but my point is: if we never get them, that's fine; we can still file this fandom in the box marked "done," thanks to this story alone.

This is also a story you can totally read if you've never seen the movie. I will provide you with a summary, in case you need it. Spoilers, obviously.

Maverick: Hi, I am a Navy pilot, and I am just totally awesome. People cannot even get over how awesome I am. I sure can't get over it, because I am such hot shit my ass routinely catches on fire. Hey, would you like my autograph? Yeah, that'll be fifty bucks.
Goose: I am Maverick's gunner or wingman or something, and he's, yeah, fairly awesome. I am a nice guy who has a lovely wife and adorable small children. This is usually a terminal condition in an action movie. Just, you know. FYI.
Iceman: I am also a pilot. And, Maverick, sometimes when your ass is on fire, it's because someone is beating it. That person would be me.
Charlie: I am the token girl. I have a Ph.D. and a desire to fuck one of my students! And, mmmm, I love the taste of arrogance in the morning. Now, who shall I pick?

[Painful singing interlude.]

Charlie: I choose you, Pikachu! I mean, Maverick!
Maverick: Yay. And yet - Iceman - I must - um, engage in conflict with him. Yes. Conflict.
Iceman: You're not hot enough or good enough to engage with me, boyo. Just stand there and let me stare at you.

[Random gay volleyball porn.]

Iceman: Maverick, you piss me off so much that I need to punch you just so I can feel my skin against yours.
Maverick: YES, BABY, YES. Fuck - I mean punch - me harder.
Goose: *dies*

[WOE.]

Iceman: I win the competition we were having to be the best Navy pilot in all the land!
Maverick: PUNCH ME HARDER. I mean. Um. Yeah, you win. But I have Become a Man! In all senses of the word! Oh, god, YES.
Charlie: ...Wasn't I supposed to be the love interest?
Goose: *remains dead*

The One That Teaches Us That Brain Parasites Can Be an Effective Therapy. (Don't Try This in the Real World, Though.) Tongues of Men and Angels, by [livejournal.com profile] mad_maudlin. Stargate: Atlantis, John Sheppard/Rodney McKay.

Okay. I have - a thing. The Goa'uld make me want to CLAW MY SKIN OFF. Just, you know, preemptively. In case they turn out to be real. And yet. This story, for me, is alllll about a relationship, and it's not the McKay/Sheppard one. (Not that I am not bang alongside the McKay/Sheppard one, of course. I enjoy it! I am pleased it is here! But it is not the centerpiece of the story for me.)

Because this is a non-Atlantis AU, and there are Tok'ra in it, and this, for me, is about what being a Tok'ra is like. It's about the relationship between Tok'ra and host, and it's the first story I've ever read that made me believe the Tok'ra might be more than just Goa'uld with slightly (slightly!) better press. I actually like the Tok'ra, as they are portrayed here. Okay. A few of them. But that is a huge thing for someone who is as mind-controlling-parasite averse as I am!

But this story is 60k words of gateversey goodness, so it is also a fantastic action piece, and it has great hurt/comfort, and some very nice bits for SG1, and engineering, and sarcasm, and, just, everything I want from an SGA story (except Go-playing ghosts and John and Rodney turned into seahorses who are disturbed to discover that MPreg is their new canon, because no SGA story can be absolutely everything). In fact, this story probably also makes perfect toast and can bring rain to parched lands. It's that good, people.

And it's amazing to me, because it's a happy ending for John and Rodney that doesn't involve Atlantis, and the thing is - I always kind of assumed that there wasn't a happy ending for them that didn't involve Atlantis, largely because, well, it seemed like they had had that relationship conversation with earth. You know, the one that goes, "It's not you, it's me. It's just - we don't feel the same way, and we want different things, and - yeah. I mean. I care. I do. But it's not working out." (In Rodney's case, he'd be the one saying this. In John's case, it'd be earth.) So I am frankly stunned that [livejournal.com profile] mad_maudlin could use the guys as, you know, roughly the same people (and not seahorses or circus performers or satellites or whatever) and find them a happy ending that does not involve a certain imaginary flying city.

Anyway. Read this. It's awesome.

The One with the Most Nearly-Literal Slave Collar I've Yet Seen That Is Canonical. Did the Canon Writers Notice This? Were They Paying Attention? Figure It Out, by [livejournal.com profile] lightgetsin. White Collar, Elizabeth Burke/Peter Burke/Neal Caffrey.

Okay. I do not know from White Collar. I'm at that stage where I have to check IMDb to find out what the full names of the characters are. Usually, at this stage, I have about a one-sentence summary of the fandom in my head, but in this case, I don't. Instead, I have a picture. Which I am unfortunately unable to show you, because I can't get into LJ Scrapbook for some reason Which I can totally show you, thanks to [livejournal.com profile] tzikeh. (It shows Neal handcuffed to Peter, who is kissing Elizabeth.) And, really, that says it all. Or at least all the parts I'm interested in.

Anyway. Like I said, I don't know from White Collar, but based on this story, if the DVDs were available, I would totally have Best Beloved watching it already. I might even be watching an episode myself (although that is unlikely, what with my current Kirk and Spock issues - but the very fact that I, deep in this weird TOSian fever, am willing to consider watching something else is significant). Because the characters are awesome, the concept is deeply appealing, and the dialog is first rate. In the story, I mean. My primary concern, if I had Best Beloved watch this, would be that the canon might not measure up to the fan fiction. This has happened before.

But, oh, it would almost be worth it, to know these three people better. Plus, you know, other people. I am sure there are other people in the show worth knowing. Probably.

So, this story - well. It is about Neal (conman!) and Peter (conman-catcher!) and Elizabeth (person who catches the conman-catcher!) and their really pure true love. But what I mostly love about it are the central questions it seems to ask, which is - how do you trust someone whose whole life has been built around making people trust him even though he's not, you know, actually trustworthy? How do you love someone whose job it is to make people love him? (And I would just like to note that it is awesome that for once the person whose job it is to make people love him is not a prostitute.) And exactly what happens when what is holding you together goes away?

(SECRET HINT: Sex! And PURE TRUE LOVE. And, knowing these three, someone (Neal) getting tied to something. But that's just my guess.)

The One Where We Learn That Even Logic Crumbles in the Face of a Really Short Skirt. Listening to Hear Where You Are, by [livejournal.com profile] frostfire_17. Star Trek Reboot, Jim Kirk/Spock/Nyota Uhura.

Sooooo. As some of you may be aware, I have recently had my brain taken over by Star Trek: TOS. And Reboot. Anything with a Spock, basically. (This is a painful process, but I am told that eventually I may regain the ability to speak in complete sentences, so I am trying to be strong. And you should all give Best Beloved massive, massive love for standing by me through it.) And, see, my TOS obsession makes this story even better (although I'm going to be honest here and say a) it did not need to be made even better and b) Frostfire may be liable for various damages to readers' brains for the stunning level of betterness in this story even without TOS as a point of reference), because now I have seen the women's uniforms that are the centerpiece of this, and, well.

Look at some of the images Frost linked to in her notes.

Okay. Now picture that outfit on Reboot Kirk. (In a fetching shade of gold, naturally). Yeah, I thought that would get your attention. Because, let's be honest here - Kirk was born to wear that dress. And Spock and Uhura were born to fuck him senseless in it.

Seriously, this is like 8k words of fantastic threesome porn, which is all by itself a reason to love the story, but what I really love, here, is how in character everyone is. This is an awesome Uhura, an awesome Spock, and a Jim Kirk in a dress. (Which is, obviously, the definition of awesome.)

And it's also an awesome use of a costume that actually made my jaw drop the first time I saw it in action, because holy shit that is a short dress. (Usually the argument against skirts on people in space is that if there's an artificial gravity failure, the wearer will end up with a skirt in the face. Let's just say that is not a problem here, since in the event of a gravity failure, this skirt will look exactly the same.) This story made me love the uniform a lot more than I previously did.

Also, did I mention the threesome porn?

The One to Read to Remind Yourself It Could Always Be Worse: You Could Be Spending the Holiday of Your Choice with the U.S. Congress. Die Hard 4.5: I'll Be Hard for Christmas, by Aja, aka [livejournal.com profile] bookshop (thanks to multiple people!). Live Free or Die Hard, Matt Farrell/John McClane.

I'm going to just pause for a minute so you can let the awesomeness of the title wash over you. Pause - pause - pause. Are you ready? Let's move on.

So, I think the title alone is sufficient reason to convince anyone, including people who haven't seen the movie (me!) and people who sometimes fantasize about punching Bruce Willis in the teeth (hardly me at all, anymore), to read this story, but I have more reasons even than that.

Like, okay, obviously I haven't seen the movie, but I always think the aftermath of action movies would be so much more interesting than the part where our hero blows something up and our villain meets his graphic end, often more than once. What happens when our hero stands up in the wreckage of a major American city, tosses aside his rebar, and goes back to work the next day? (Or, okay, six to eight weeks later, to allow for healing.) And that's what this story is about.

I also have to note that this story has the most wonderful original character ever. (At least, I'm assuming he's original. If he's a stealth crossover from somewhere, please god tell me where.) I don't know when I last met a character who could pack so much world-weary, cynical snark into a single sentence. Every bit of this story that he's in is awesome, and I would totally read a large number of stories in the Amit Sasses Washington fandom, or whatever it would be called.

Plus, you know, there's a whole thing where Matt and John find love in the midst of briefings and Congressional meetings, which has to be a first. (At least, it's a first in that no one was prosecuted or lost a major election afterwards.)

And there's a fivethirtyeight.com reference. Seriously, there's something here for every fan, except possibly those who hate happiness and good sex.
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[personal profile] torachan 2010-02-09 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Aja is [livejournal.com profile] bookshop.
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[personal profile] out_there 2010-02-09 08:42 am (UTC)(link)
Firstly, that is the best summary of Top Gun ever. You hit all the important parts, except possibly how good Tom Cruise looks on that motorbike.

Secondly, White Collar the show is actually about as awesome as that fic implies. There's less porn, obviously, but it's one of those shows where the writers clearly don't understand the concept of subtext or slash, because the emotional reaction between Peter and Neal is just a bit too intense to come across as normal.

(My favourite example is mum, who missed the first set-up episode and asked me halfway through the second episode if Neal was Peter's brother, since Peter seemed so upset at the idea that Neal might break parole, go off on his own, betray Peter's trust.)

The writers are giving us all this preslash, and don't even seem to realise. Plus, there's Elizabeth. Who is awesome and keep sencouraging her husband to trust Neal, look after Neal, promotes Neal being in their house. And she looks fantastic in heels. (She's one of those truly awesome female characters that I would desperately love to marry.)
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[personal profile] glittertine 2010-02-09 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
*facepalms* That Top Gun fic... how can it be so good?!

I should really rewatch the movie sometime, too. I've seen it about a gazillion times at around age 12, and I am certain it has *something* to do with making me into a slasher almost a decade before I discovered what slash even was. Even if I totally bought into the het romance at the time. *more facepalming*

Thanks for the rec!
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[personal profile] winter_elf 2010-02-09 05:22 pm (UTC)(link)
White collar actually has writers who know how to write a married couple and a strong, capable female. I'm impressed. Usually I see the slash in buddy shows. This is the 1st in a long time that I can see the threesome right away.
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[personal profile] brownbetty 2010-02-09 05:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I was all “BRAIN PARASITES!!!” *clicks like woah* and then realized that might be a mildly atypical reaction.
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[personal profile] blushingflower 2010-02-09 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Just the other day I was thinking "I need new fic to read, but I want recs so I don't have to struggle through the crappy stuff" and lo, here it is! Thank you!
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[personal profile] treewishes 2010-02-11 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
As I just mentioned to someone else, White Collar is currently still passing the "significant other" test at my house, at 10 episodes in. The banter, the strong female character, and the complexity of the OTP and OT3 are really worth watching. Just sayin'.
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[personal profile] sothcweden 2010-02-11 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
I know this is a journal for your recs, but your comment: Okay. I have - a thing. The Goa'uld make me want to CLAW MY SKIN OFF. made me think of two stories that might help with that, though I agree with you in principle. Reading Heinlein's The Puppet Masters at age 11 gave me the horrors for weeks. Anyway:

Walked Right Out of the Machinery by [livejournal.com profile] rydra_wong SG-1, Gen It's about what might have happened if Ba'al's Jaffa got there 30 seconds later in the Season Six episode Abyss. It's about a relationship, too, even if it's not sexual.

First Prime and The Guardian by Lady Ra. I don't have a summary of it, since that would ruin the surprise, but I always think of it as the melding of SG-1 with the Dragonriders of Pern series. Daniel in this 'verse is more openly emotional than my vision of him, but the Jack and the humor and the teamy goodness make it worth a read, in my book.

Both have goa'uld that I think will leave your skin intact.
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[personal profile] queue 2010-02-17 03:39 am (UTC)(link)
Two years ago, for reasons that do not need exploring at this juncture, I re-watched Top Gun.

*raises hand*

Ooh. I know why you did that. I know. I know. ...you're gonna have to kill me now, aren't you.

I would read your Top Gap recap in a heartbeat. Just sayin'.

[identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, sweetie, do you want White Collar episodes on DVD? Because I can send them. And, yes, IMO? The canon totally measures up to the high expectations you get from lightgetsin's (http://lightgetsin.livejournal.com/301649.html?style=mine) story. Hell, I made an entire lj entry about how and why the tack can be your friend, using that story as an example.

Here's your picture--feel free to link in the primary post. Sorry I don't have the bigger one to hand.

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ETA: You can watch every episode of White Collar that has aired here: http://tvgorge.com/shows/white-collar/ for free.
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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you for the photo! I don't know why ScrapBook hates the OT3, but apparently it does. I judge it for this, needless to say.

And, yes, we would love to have White Collar episodes! BB can't watch them in streaming, because our internet can barely deal with downloading a vid. (We are struggling with that first-world blight known as Declining Internet Speed as a result of our move. Obviously, we are both suffering nobly.)

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[identity profile] sprat.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 06:35 am (UTC)(link)
Your rec posts are consistently wonderful. <3

Also, I think Aja might be [livejournal.com profile] bookshop, possibly!

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 08:41 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! And, yay, an LJ identity for Aja! So, really, thank you twice.

Oh, hell. I will throw in a third thanks, just because.

[identity profile] nightcamedown.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 06:47 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much for that Top Gun rec. I watch Top Gun about once a year (hey volleyball scene heeeey), but I always end up feeling like I've only seen half a movie. Kings of the Air is the other half :-)

OKAY NOW FOR A FANDOM PIMP: You simply must watch White Collar. There really isn't any alternative here - I'm trying to think of a loophole, but no. You just have to watch. The end. :-) I resisted watching until about a week ago (because I was under the completely erroneous impression I didn't like Matt Bomer), at which time I fell head over heels in love and mainlined all the existing episodes in one day.

I, too, have suffered from Fic>Canon Syndrome, but the canon here is marvelous (particularly Peter, who is an unflappable badass except for the part where he is befuddled by his incredible wife and his saucy convict boyfriend). Definitely give it a try sometime :-)

[identity profile] tzikeh.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
Peter Burke is simply the best character on tv today. YEAH, I SAID IT.

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[identity profile] paceus.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
Aja is [livejournal.com profile] bookshop -- here's her Yuletide reveal post (http://bookshop.livejournal.com/941960.html) with that fic.

Isn't White Collar awesome?

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you!

And, yes, White Collar is proving to be both unexpectedly awesome and unusually rich in OT3. \o/!
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[personal profile] shinealightonme 2010-02-09 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
But, oh, it would almost be worth it, to know these three people better. Plus, you know, other people. I am sure there are other people in the show worth knowing. Probably.

Kind of? I really love Neal's friend and landlady June, but she hardly gets any screentime (nor can I find a good pic of her, boo). There's a couple other FBI agents we see but, uh, they don't get a lot of screen time either. Pretty much the only other character we see a lot of is Mozzie, Neal's friend and fellow criminal. I quite enjoy the show, but when it comes to conartist hijinks and OT3 goodness, I prefer Leverage.

ETA: I should probably add, though, that I absolutely ADORE El Burke. SO MUCH. *draws hearts around El*
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other people in the show worth knowing

[identity profile] jenna-thorn.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 02:14 pm (UTC)(link)
editing to clarify audience

TFV, there are --

Diana the FBI probie was in the first two episodes, spectacularly competant and resitant to Neil's charms, and I would love to see more of her. Sp. Agent Jones is a running character and has a moment of wordless loyalty to Peter and Elizabeth that is happy making in epi 7? (I mainlined most of them in one day, out of order, so the divisions between episodes in my brain are blurred) and June, oh June, knowing full well what and who Neal is and adopting him because she was wicked once, too and I would love to see more of her in canon and fanfic.

So, all that to say - June. Wait until you meet June. She needs more screentime, so I am agreeing with and giving detail to this comment, not telling [livejournal.com profile] shinealightonme about June, since clearly she knows. And Leverage is wonderful, too, but it's a different feel, more hijinky and less intimate.

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[identity profile] cranberryink.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 08:36 am (UTC)(link)
ICEMAN AND MAVERICK. OF COURSE. Filed under, "Why didn't I think of that?"

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ALSO, the actor who plays Slider in the film is the actor who plays Mark Smithbauer in due South. It's important to know these things.

[identity profile] acari.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 10:49 am (UTC)(link)
John and Rodney turned into seahorses who are disturbed to discover that MPreg is their new canon

Wait, there is no John & Rodney as seahorses fic yet? There must be. They've been turned into anything under the sun. Paper clips! Girlscout cookies! Ketchup! No seahorses fic? Really? That is a disturbing thought.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Not that I can find! I know, I kind of feel like fandom has failed us.
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[identity profile] dzurlady.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 11:49 am (UTC)(link)
I have only vague memories of the plot of Top Gun, but Kings of the Air is totally fabulous! Thanks for the rec. :)

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 04:00 pm (UTC)(link)
You totally don't need memories of Top Gun! (I only had the vaguest of vague impressions when I watched it two years ago. I remembered it as being mostly about planes. ...Yeah.) Stick with memories of Kings of the Air. It's way better.
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[identity profile] kungfunurse.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 12:06 pm (UTC)(link)
(In Rodney's case, he'd be the one saying this. In John's case, it'd be earth.)

I couldn't stop laughing and staring and laughing at this line! Because hey! So true!!

I too hate brain infesting parasites. I've avoided this fic up until now - but you didn't actually say that I needed to keep a safety tab open, so.....

If i break down and cry I'm coming back here to wipe my snotty nose on your LJ. Just saying.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I too hate brain infesting parasites. I've avoided this fic up until now - but you didn't actually say that I needed to keep a safety tab open, so.....

I really didn't need a safety tab - I was absolute fine with it, and in fact the Tok'ra aspect was my favorite part. I hope it will be equally okay for you!

And, yes, if you end up crying, feel free to come back and complain. (Or if you don't, you can come back and say, "YOU WERE RIGHT THE TOK'RA ARE UNEXPECTEDLY AWESOME." Although I would remind you that this only means you can trust brain-infesting parasites written by [livejournal.com profile] mad_maudlin. You don't want to let your guard down around general brain-infesting parasites.)

[identity profile] bookshop.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)

I'm going to just pause for a minute so you can let the awesomeness of the title wash over you.

ahahaha, THANK YOU. You have no idea how many times in the last year I've heard "great fic, horrible title!" and i'm just like *headdesk* bc the irony of the title was kinda part of the point, so I am really happy you got it and think it's awesome!

also YES, HI, AM AJA. Image people emailed me! to tell me you recced me! it was exciting! and now i am reading said rec and OMG. YAY. thank you for loving Amit <3333333 (oh, god, stealth crossover, if only!) and for getting the 538 ref and taking away everything about this fic that I wanted people to take away. IDEAL READER, THAT'S YOU!

Think will just wander dreamily around my office smiling for the rest of the day. ♥

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
You have no idea how many times in the last year I've heard "great fic, horrible title!" and i'm just like *headdesk* bc the irony of the title was kinda part of the point

...The title was why I read it. It was like a small signpost saying, "There will be awesomeness and humor in here." *sadfaces at the title haters*

YES, HI, AM AJA.

HI HI HI! I actually know you as [livejournal.com profile] bookshop, because you are one of about five people who write Hikaru no Go, which for me is the Small Fandom I Would Force People to Love If Only I Could. (They whine at me, all, "But I don't waaaaaaanna read about animated middle-schoolers who play a board game!" And I have no choice but to judge them harshly.)

But I had not for some reason - likely serious inattentiveness - made the Aja - [livejournal.com profile] bookshop connection. So hi!

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[identity profile] polaris-starz.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
*throws White Collar recs at you*

My favorite fic in the fandom is Kate, Short For Kevin (http://moonythestrals.livejournal.com/70521.html). I just adore it on so many levels, and it has a really excellent Peter. Everyone should read [livejournal.com profile] china_shop's epic Reasonable Doubt (http://www.stonesoup.co.nz/chinashop/fic/reasonabledoubt.html) verse. I also enjoy Two Hundred and Eight Weeks (http://elandrialore.dreamwidth.org/272526.html), and Contractual Obligations (http://archiveofourown.org/works/34244?view_adult=true) is both hot and incredibly well thought out. There's also Boundary Conditions (http://community.livejournal.com/whitecollarfic/49234.html), which comes with smoking hot art and follow-up Five Things fic (http://fahye.livejournal.com/656459.html).

All of these are OT3, because this fandom is AMAZING that way. Also, you should totally watch the canon, or at least the episode where Neal gets drugged and tells Peter he trusts him.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I've read Contractual Obligations and Reasonable Doubt and they are awesome! Now I must read your other recs. Thank you!

Also, you should totally watch the canon, or at least the episode where Neal gets drugged and tells Peter he trusts him.

Oh my god, that is SO relevant to my interests.

[identity profile] janedavitt.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 03:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The D/s and threesome overtones in White Collar are visible from space, I kid you not. I adore the show and the way the fics are including Elizabeth in most of the slash as a matter of course. I've never seen a fandom go straight to a threesome as a default so fast. Not saying there isn't Neal/Peter, but there is a LOT of N/P/E and it works so well.

And like Castle, the supporting cast is great, too. Moz is adorable.

And everyone hates Kate :-)

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[personal profile] starfishchick 2010-02-09 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Kate? Kate Beckett? Everyone hates her? Really? Sadness!

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[identity profile] laughingacademy.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 03:03 pm (UTC)(link)
White Collar is sweeping LJ, and I approve. [livejournal.com profile] copperbadge wrote an awesome post (http://copperbadge.livejournal.com/2954476.html) in which, among other things, he points out that Peter/Neal is basically canonical D/s.
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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 04:28 pm (UTC)(link)
AWESOME. I am off to read and learn. Thank you!

[identity profile] annaalamode.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 03:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Can I pay you to post that Top Gun recap? Cause I am willing ot do that!

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
*snickers*

Actually, I have been considering putting a recap/review of any single episode or movie up at the [livejournal.com profile] helptheproject auction, but my concern has been that no one would want that. So, hey, if you're willing to donate to charity to see the horror that is my Top Gun recap, I am totally willing to put that up.

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[personal profile] starfishchick 2010-02-09 04:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you for that Top Gun rec. It totally made my day week MONTH, at LEAST!!

Holy crap it was awesome.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Wasn't it AMAZING? *loves forever*

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[identity profile] stillane.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never seen Top Gun as an adult, largely because it got put on repeat when I was a kid because my brother-in-law's plane was in it somewhere. (He and my sister are both much older than me, and were Navy at the time.) My memory of it is pretty much in line with your recap up there, only with more freeze-framing of critical plane shots. I think I need to see it again now that I have slash goggles and an appropriate fic chaser. *g*

(In Rodney's case, he'd be the one saying this. In John's case, it'd be earth.)

I'm taking it as implicit that John would be making the Face of Extreme Discomfort during this conversation, and possibly looking for a convenient window to dive through. Because, you know, feelings. *g*

White Collar = love. Seriously. That "I trust you" confession mentioned above? Peter's answer to it is even better, IMO, and made me squeak out obscenities of glee. The OT3 thing is so nearly canon it's not even funny, and there is not a single character on the show that doesn't make me want to hug them at least periodically. (Well, except one. I... don't think anyone is very fond of her, but then, I don't think we're supposed to be.) Everybody gets to be smart, competent and grown-up, and yet still have fun. There is a married couple on TV that adore each other, for once! The only problem with that picture up there as a representation of the show is that Neal is actually generally staring starry-eyed at Peter and El together, because he is the biggest Burke shipper in the world. And they have a Lab who is in a mutual admiration society with either Neal or Matt Bomer, I can never tell which.

So, yeah. Totally worth watching. *g*

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-02-09 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
only with more freeze-framing of critical plane shots

I remembered it from my first viewing as roughly two hours of plane shots (with some people in the background somewhere). Turns out I missed the EPIC SLASH and also the EPIC SLASH and then then the EPIC SLASH. (And the random gay porn with volleyballs. Oh, and I think there's some plot? Or something?) So I think your experience might be different this time around. Just, you know, bring with you the fortitude that allows you to sit through some kind of not so wonderful stuff in exchange for the SLAAAAAASH.

I'm taking it as implicit that John would be making the Face of Extreme Discomfort during this conversation, and possibly looking for a convenient window to dive through. Because, you know, feelings. *g*

See, that's what sucks so much when you're divorcing your whole planet: you can't get AWAY from it, and thus can't avoid the Feeling Words. You dive out the window, you're just that much closer to the ground, and if you go up in a plane, you can still feel its gravity well clutching at you and holding you to it.

And they have a Lab who is in a mutual admiration society with either Neal or Matt Bomer, I can never tell which.

Oh, man. You totally know how to drag me into a fandom. THERE IS A DOG IT IS A LAB I NEED TO SEE IT OMG.

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