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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2005-01-21 12:48 am
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Rant: Enough Already

Life has been unkind to me and mine lately, which has driven me straight into the logophagic part of acquiring a very large new fandom. As always, it's making me testy. During these periods, I read an enormous number of stories, and I'm usually trying to back-engineer the canon, and, well, I'm not at my all-time most tolerant. Which, let's face it, is not really all that tolerant anyway. In short, it's time for another mean-spirited FF rant.



Lube. Lube is important. Crucial, even. I admire authors who take the time to lubricate their characters before anal sex. But there are some kinds of lube that are worse than none at all. In other words, please no more soap as lube ever ever ever. I mean, unless you want it to hurt like hell. (Shampoo is also out, folks. And do I need to explain why hair gel is a bad idea? Well, obviously I do, as I recently read a story involving just that thing, but surely most people understand that "sticky styling product" is not synonymous with "Astroglide," right?) Because, look - if you're going to make me curl up from flashes of sympathy pain, don't you want it to be deliberate? Helpful rule of thumb for lube: if you're gonna get creative, try it on yourself before you try it on your characters. (You're excused if you once had to deal with the aftermath of a friend grabbing the toothpaste instead of the spermicide, because, trust me, you see that once, you don't ever make that mistake yourself. In fact, you seriously consider labeling all your toiletries in Braille, on the off chance that a blind person ever wants to find lube in your bathroom and doesn't think to ask you.)

Cum. "Come." It's spelled "come," goddammit. And don't tell me it's confusing to have it spelled the same as an entirely different word. You speak English. You should be used to this. And if you can't tell from context whether it means "have an orgasm" or "move toward something," you don't speak the English language after all, so you're in no position to be making changes to it. Plus, if we never use "cum" to mean "semen" again, we'll never be confronted with the non-word "precum," which, in addition to being absolutely horrible, always makes me reach reflexively for my Latin-English dictionary. So know that when you spell it c-u-m you're giving some of us painful flashbacks to Latin classes so boring that, by the end of one of them, we could totally empathize with what it's like to be dead for two thousand years. (And by the end of four of them, we were envying Latin, which at least got to be used in orgies and stuff before it died. The best we got was slides, which I had never seen used as a teaching aid prior to this class.)

Per se. It is pronounced "per say." It is not written that way. Or purr say, or persey, or any of the other mutations your mind creates. Seriously. I suffered through two years of the aforementioned Latin class to learn facts like this. Make my childhood boredom worth something; use and spell your Latin phrases correctly. Or, hell, just leave them out altogether. I won't complain. (And you know, the worst part about the slides was that we almost never got to see them, because the teacher couldn't work anything that was manufactured after Diocletian died. When your career has reached the point where it takes three eleven-year-old girls to get your tie disentangled from a fucking slide projector, sir, it's time to find a new career. Or just stop showing slides. We all already know what the Coliseum looks like.)

Watch the cock. I know. You're thinking, wait, that's pretty much all slashers do, right? But I meant that you should be watching the cock's progress. If, the last time we heard tell of it, a given cock was slowly hardening, it should not be achingly hard one kiss later; it makes me highly suspicious of the cock's ability to stay the course. (Of course, if that's the point of your story, go you.) Likewise, if you're writing a detailed sex scene, try to have some actual sex in it. Too many stories these days go like this: 3 paragraphs of kissing, 4 paragraphs of increasingly intense groping and licking, 1 sentence of penetration, 1 sentence of mutual orgasm (which is generally blindingly incredible and often involves screaming), and then 4 paragraphs of afterglow. If that's happening in your story, you have a problem with pacing. Or your character has a problem with premature ejaculation, I suppose.

Akin to terror. What's related to terror? Fear, horror, dread, panic, and alarm, just to get you started. So if there's all these terms related to terror, why not use one of them? Don't just tell me that a given emotion is "akin to terror." Get specific! Either the character is terrified, in which case say so, or he's something else, in which case, hell, go crazy and tell me exactly what that is. Otherwise I'm forced to wonder about you - I mean, you know twenty-four synonyms for sexually aroused and not one for terror? Are you even from this planet?

Bruises. First: bruises are not sexy. They aren't. If you don't believe me, examine yourself the next time you have one. Second: it is easy to bruise someone's neck or breasts with your teeth. It's a lot, lot harder to bruise someone's hips with your fingers. Seriously. Dirty looks will occasionally bruise my Best Beloved, but does that mean I leave finger-shaped bruises every time we have sex? No. No, it does not, and that's because it's not easy to do. Nor is this whole bruising gig something that works for most pairings. (Yes, I'm sure Keller and Beecher bruise each other; for them, that's actually playing nice. But we love those guys 'cause they're not normal.) I think (I hope) writers sometimes use "bruise" to mean something else - pressing hard enough to turn the skin white, leaving the skin flushed and red when the pressure is lifted again. But some authors are definitely talking about real, actual bruising, and unless your characters have platelet disorders, it's just not that likely. Major exception: this is OK in Smallville, as long as it is Clark who is doing the bruising. Please, unless someone can explain to me why it makes sense ('cause, hey, no canon expert here), let's never again have stories in which Lex bruises Clark without benefit of kryptonite.

They don't like to watch. Here's a tip: straight men do not typically feel comfortable when their gay male friends have sex in their presence. They certainly don't carry on a conversation with whichever friend has his mouth free of encumbrance. But it's a sign of acceptance, you cry! The pairing guys are showing how comfortable they are with their new-found sexual identity, and the observers are showing their tolerance! Um. No. Because - let me put it this way. People, just in general, do not feel comfortable watching their friends get it on. (There's an exception here for certain straight men and their lesbian friends. A mildly irritating exception. Moving on.) It has nothing to do with tolerance and everything to do with, you know, boundaries and culture. Don't like that? Get off on an uninvolved, uninterested person watching? Make up a brand new culture or alien race, sister, because it won't work in a story set in modern America (and this is just a guess, but it probably won't work in most of the rest of the first world, either). And, for the record, most people are not comfortable being watched, either. Sex is not a spectator sport, for the very good reason that it looks stupid a lot of the time; let's leave the characters their dignity, shall we? I mean, unless you're deliberately taking it away, in which case, hey - go you.

Like a virgin. Or not. If you're painting a modern-day character over the age of - oh, I'll be generous and say 25 - as a virgin, unless that person is a nun or something I'm going to need a lot of back story. A fuckload, in fact. You want to say it's the first time Daniel Jackson has had sex with a man? I'm fine with that, willing to buy that, happy to go with it. If you're telling me that an encounter in a series-time story is the first time that Daniel has ever had sex, though, um - he was married. Among other subtle clues that he might have had sex at some point in his past. So come up with a brilliant explanation or surrender the virginity, please. And, really, what's so wonderful about losing one's virginity? I've done that. It wasn't, shall we say, pleasant. Now, partly that had to do with the circumstances, but it mostly had to do with the fact that it was my first time. I've gotten better at sex since then. Way, way better, and I mean in the enjoyment as well as the technique sense. And, really, I sort of like the characters to have the same advantage. So, look. If you want to write about virgins, write HP or pre-canon stories or something. I can believe in virginity in those cases, although I adore authors who write that first time as awkward, bad, and stupid as it often is. But please don't tell me that Blair Sandburg is a virgin at 28. Or Angel, who we saw have sex in canon back on Buffy, and who is three hundred years old. Or, god help us, Christopher Fucking Keller, who has earned that honorary middle name in a variety of ways. (And yes, I've read – well, skimmed parts of - stories making just that claim for all those guys.) First time in love? Fine for some characters. First time with the same sex? Fine with most characters. First time in a long time? Perfectly acceptable in many cases. First time, period? No. Please. No.

Think I missed something? Previous FF rants are here, here, and here.

Got some FF bitching to get off your chest? Share in the comments section. I like to know I'm not alone in my insanity.

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[personal profile] brynwulf 2005-01-21 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
Ok, seriously curious. Since Brian and Dom ALWAYS have motor oil handy, I actually would use it, if circumstances dictated. And I'm a lube stickly, myself. Especially NO SWIMMING POOLS WITHOUT LUBE. But, I kinda thought motor oil was ok. Granted, I haven't tried it. Maybe I should then I'd know what I'm talking about. Research. Research. Research.

[identity profile] hypertwink.livejournal.com 2005-01-21 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
Do you actually think that putting motor oil inside your body is sexy? Especially in places where wounds can occur (because of penetration, which would be hard and fast and furious since Dom & Brian are so horny that they had no time to find lube).

That's what I hate about sex scenes in fanfic. I mean, I give allowances about the cleanliness factor, because it may be real but I think nobody wants to read about the possibility of sh*t during a love scene. I think of fanfic sex as verbal porn, and just like my stash of Falcon & Titan porn, all the bottoms are douche-clean and condoms and lube just magically appear near or around the couple/s (even if they are in the desert or 1950s military pilots on a plane).

But please, lay off the motor oil. Unless your ass is an engine.
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[personal profile] brynwulf 2005-01-21 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
Ok...I did not say anything about motor oil being sexy. But, if its clean motor oil, to me, it's better than a dry fuck. Am I wrong?

Take a first time FatF scene in the garage. No amount of explanation is going to convince me there is lube in the garage (unless Letty and Dom play that way when they're messing around..which is definitely a possibility). Otherwise, nope.

I'm willing to suspend disbelief in most situations if it's feasible there is a chance lube and condoms are handy, but I, personally, don't see alot of chance of that in an auto garage. Maybe I've been hanging around the wrong garages. :)

And Brian's ass may not be an engine, but Dom can sure make it purr.

[identity profile] norah.livejournal.com 2005-01-21 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
That? Is what blowjobs are for. And, um, handjobs. And frottage. When there is no lube, you just refrain from the buttfucking. It's not like buttfucking is the be-all end-all; and spit will let a finger work, if you've just GOTTA have something up your ass.

I must confess to having written a spit-n-precome fic once, but it was one of my very first stories, and even though I knew better at the time...well, I've repented.

[identity profile] hypertwink.livejournal.com 2005-01-21 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you!

I know fanfic is part-fantasy but you've got to ground it with some truth. A lubeless fuck is a very painful fuck, and a fuck with makeshift lube may get you off but you will pay for it, in some form or another.

[identity profile] norah.livejournal.com 2005-01-21 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
Amen, brother. *high-fives you*

As a matter of fact, I have been feeling so much guilt about that fic that [livejournal.com profile] thefourthvine's rant has caused me to vow to change it today - yea, even to re-upload it to the archives, for lubeless buttfucking is never fun and should not be perpetuated by those of us who know better.

[identity profile] hypertwink.livejournal.com 2005-01-21 09:59 am (UTC)(link)
*high-five*

Wow. I never knew this was a peeve of mine but I never realized how pissed off it makes me. At least, it's off my chest now. =P
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[identity profile] atalantapendrag.livejournal.com 2005-01-21 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
*hearty applause*


Penetration is not the only "real" sex, dammit.

[identity profile] hypertwink.livejournal.com 2005-01-21 09:33 am (UTC)(link)
Why should you stay in the garage? Go to your room and do the nasty there, right? But if they can't wait, then they have to find something better than motor oil (clean or not). But if Brian thinks that putting something that was meant for a car into his ass is fine, then so be it.

Just don't forget to put in the epilogue, where Brian is rushed to the hospital a few days later for an infection of some sort. =)
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[personal profile] brynwulf 2005-01-21 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
Noted. :)

And I do take your suggestions seriously, cuz, I mean, you would know probably much better than me. tankee.

[identity profile] hypertwink.livejournal.com 2005-01-21 09:47 am (UTC)(link)
You're welcome.

[identity profile] kelliem.livejournal.com 2005-01-21 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Motor oil is *toxic*. Never ever put it inside your body.