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thefourthvine) wrote2006-05-01 11:50 pm
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Poll: Fandoms I Have Loved: Reader Input
I'm just curious, really. I have a lot of half-finished FIHL posts sitting on my hard drive - all the ones listed below are somewhere between 1% and 80% complete - and I guess, now that I've finished with Smallville, I'm feeling a little...unfocused.
Pointers, anyone?
ETA: I have already done (in reverse order) Smallville, Stargate: Atlantis, The Fast and the Furious, Oz, Ocean's 11, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Master & Commander, due South, Pirates of the Caribbean, The Sentinel, and Lord of the Rings. Those can all be found at my Fandoms I Have Loved tag.
ETA2: Allow me to smack my forehead in a painful fashion, because I completely forgot to put on the poll two others that I have in progress: Harry Potter and the DCU. Memo to me: no more posting polls late at night.
[Poll #720893]
Pointers, anyone?
ETA: I have already done (in reverse order) Smallville, Stargate: Atlantis, The Fast and the Furious, Oz, Ocean's 11, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Master & Commander, due South, Pirates of the Caribbean, The Sentinel, and Lord of the Rings. Those can all be found at my Fandoms I Have Loved tag.
ETA2: Allow me to smack my forehead in a painful fashion, because I completely forgot to put on the poll two others that I have in progress: Harry Potter and the DCU. Memo to me: no more posting polls late at night.
[Poll #720893]
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Also, because it was right up there with Smallville with the Gay. (Your whole family is murdered? Pout a lot and knock over a few rocks. Your homosocial life partner is killed (again)? Take out entire pantheons! That's the way to assert your hetersexual identity, right there. Go, you long-haired wonderstud in leather pants!)
And the show crossed my mind for no apparent reason today, which seems very kismet. So, yeah. Hercules someday, please. *g*
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(More tips for Herc: after your 'partner' is killed and you take out entire pantheons, hey, why not go grab yourself a body double from an alternate universe? Make sure he's out of the way when you get your own fella back, though. Maybe you could get him to turn into a mermaid...)
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Although, yeah, Hercules is totally worth doing. You would not believe the chats BB and I have had over that show lately. (Example:
BB, eyeing the newly-arrived Seasons 2 and 3 DVD sets: "You know, if I didn't read your LJ, I wouldn't even have known these were coming. First rule of marriage: you're supposed to give your spouse warning before you do something really drastic."
Me, launching into the first of a full dozen prepared excuses: "It wasn't my fault! It was Mary Crawford! You know, the one with the pig icons! I was...under a spell, and also there was this demon, and some leather pants, and..."
BB: "YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO TURN YOUR LIFE INTO A HERCULES EPISODE."
[There is a thoughtful pause.]
BB, consideringly: "Although if you're going to anyway, I guess I'd better, you know, check out the discs. That way we can, um, pick the best one."
Me, supportively: "Excellent idea!"
BB: "Also, I get to be Iolaus.")
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See, I think I deserve a vote for that. HEE. Or possibly I could go post in my LJ and incite people to come over here? Ya think? *plots*
I just sort of really want a running HtLJ commentary by you and your BB. I think that would make me entirely happy. (Okay, and yes, recs would be wonderful and I'd love it if you did some. It's just that the BB dialogues are cracking me up. He gets to be Iolaus! AW.)
I was...under a spell, and also there was this demon, and some leather pants, and..."
Hey, did you know Hercules actually turns into a demon in season six? With horns and everything!
*runs*
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Or um. she. *is a dolt*
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*curses English's tiresomely gender specific ways*
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*snerk* Um. No. That would be - that would be disturbing. Yes.
And I have no intention of revealing in a public place just how hysterical I thought it was that the Amazons had to hold their breasts as they ran down the hill.
Oh. Wait. Whoops.
Hey, did you know Hercules actually turns into a demon in season six? With horns and everything!
Oh my god. Now we're running into - see, okay. There's this old movie called Legend, and it is - it is the funniest thing I have ever seen, for so very, very many reasons. (The sprite played by a tiny lightbulb on a very visible string! The unicorns with horns that wobble around on their heads when they gallop! The way that hell only has one person in it! Well, two if you count Satan.) I know a lot of people love it for reasons of actual plot, but I love it because - well, because Satan has horns on which the seam from the mold is clearly visible.
Now I'm picturing Hercules wearing similar horns. And I'm realizing that BB's Theory of Hercules ("It's really about hats. And other assorted headwear.") is entirely correct.
My brain is a place of legend right now. (And the legend is "Hercules and the Minotaur Costume of Doom.")
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*giggles madly*
At least she did it to me through whole vids. Hee hee hee hee. Okay, it was actually through a few snapshots of Iolaus flirting, but. *kof*
Although porkules was v. v. enticing.
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You still totally trump me on the fan coolness scale. Icons! I was seduced into a fandom by pig icons! My shame is intense.
But, I mean - Porkules! What could I do but succumb?
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I'm very disturbed by the accuracy of this statement. I just want you to know that.
But! You have made a scientific discovery of no little merit: apparently demons + leather pants is one of the terms in the Grand Unified Fandom equation. You should publish this.
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Should the double thing not work out and death continue to be a pain, you can set your universe on repeat. All your loved ones will reincarnate, and you can keep doing the adventure and suffering schtick throughout eternity. The downside is that your not-so-loved ones will also resurface, but then, you'd get fat and lazy without the cardiovascular hijinks of your daily Ares battle.
And it isn't the slightest bit gay to be linked for all time to your 'partner'. Nope. Not at all. Just like returning from godhood because you missed him isn't. At all.
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Although I don't know. I feel kind of...inadequate in the face of a fandom that so obviously did not take itself even remotely seriously. And was so obviously very, very gay. And, my god, the Widow Twanky. It's like - they Fandoms I Have Loved themselves, you know?
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I'm pretty sure there was some very heavy consumption of intoxicating substances behind more than one of those episodes. Really, giant formerly-bondage-geared-goddess chickens? A host of recuring characters which included a character named after deepfried chickpeas and Surfer Barbie the Diety? More than one episode involving your main character being translated into a farmyard animal?
Come to think of it, I wonder what the Herc writers are up to these days... I suspect they may have taken up writing SGA fanfic...
Good to know the crack is still in the running. *g*
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And the behind of the wonderstud needs to be held. By Iolaus.
*nods in heartfelt agreement*
I wonder what the Herc writers are up to these days... I suspect they may have taken up writing SGA fanfic.
*shock and awe*
My god. That would explain so much. Hercules: where the canon is just like SGA fandom.
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Mary, admiring the behind of the wonderstud
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(I just looked them up on the IMDb and learned that they also wrote Mission: Impossible III.
I am very very tempted to see MI III now.)
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"Project, to be penned by Abrams and "MI3" scribes Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, will center on the early days of seminal "Trek" characters James T. Kirk and Mr. Spock, including their first meeting at Starfleet Academy and first outer space mission."
Aw. K/S, my first fandom! And I particularly like their use of 'seminal'. *is twelve*
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And GO and Discworld - these are excellent suggestions. (Although I would feel weird about writing a FIHL that's significantly less funny than the actual canon.)
My Harry Potter FIHL, on the other hand, has been in progress forever. And it's, like, 12 pages of insane confusion already, and it's only half done. And that doesn't even include HPB.
Come to think of it, that would be a highly appropriate introduction to the fandom, really.
*moves HP back into the active folder*
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And I am ashamed; I should have had more faith in my fellow fans. Of course there'd be DiR love out there! You people have taste!
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I would like to vote for HP as well.
And it's probably (un)important to note that I made a tiny little noise of happiness and glee when I saw Scrubs on that list.
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But I so totally hear you on DiR and Scrubs. These are canons that everyone should love. And write lots of fan fiction for.
*waits hopefully for the Fandom Gods to make it so*
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Er, I'll shut up. But even if you didn't like Little Women, you might like Little Men. (I didn't like Little Women at all.)
Those damn Fandom Gods don't keep a very good timetable. I've been waiting for both fandoms for a while now.
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I actually only read Dark Is Rising recently. I think it's because I wanted to read one of the crossover fanfics you recommended, but had want to know the source texts first and since I was looking for something to read, well...you know the rest. I really love Will & Bran.
And heh! *waits patiently for you HP FIHL*
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because it would comfort me to know that someone else suffered through the same insanity I did... for the love of sunshine and puppies?no subject
Insanity, though - that's totally connected to the DCU. That FIHL has been in progress forever, because I kept weeping and chewing my hands when I got to the part where I tried to explain the plot.
*shudders at the memory*
*embraces you in profound sympathy*
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a short skirt pursuitpursuit of justice,) and his smoldering affair with billionaire Bruce Wayne, member of the Mile High club.no subject
1. It is indeed true that the DCU and insanity are closely linked, and
2. This is not necessarily a bad thing.
And if the insanity truly leads to Stewardess!Tim, I would be forced to agree with you. Nothing that causes people to write Stewardess!Tim could be bad.
the writers themselves regard the past as a sort of strong suggestion, rather than, you know, immutable events
I'm trying to figure out whether I should laugh or cry at this statement. Because: oh my god so true.
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The only two others that I would suggest, but thought of after I filled out the poll are both old (like I am), but are filled with slashy goodness: Man From UNCLE, which I haven't seen in decades but I remember it fondly and the fic is really good, and Starsky and Hutch, which I am currently rewatching and am shocked at what they got away with back then. Those boys are in love with each other just as surely as Herc and Iolaus are.
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I must admit that I've never seen either Man From UNCLE or Starsky and Hutch. But I've seen vids (and the blooper reel!) for the latter, and - oh. My. God. They were so seriously doing it, and the actors so obviously knew it. (Thus, I have added them to the list of Fandoms Where Even the Actors Knew Their Characters Were Gay, Gay, Gay, As Judged by the Blooper Reel: The Sentinel, due South, Starsky and Hutch.)
I watched the S&H movie (okay, half of it - I have an attention span problem when it comes to visual entertainment) with Best Beloved. And there were all these scenes of total and absolute gayness, and I was going, "Um, yeah, way to crank the gay up to 11, guys." And BB said thoughtfully, "No, no. The show was pretty much like this, too."
Possibly I will get S&H discs from Netflix. BB is sure to want to watch them, right?
Right?
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As for the movie, I ran screaming from the trailer soo...
Tell BB that if she wants company, I'll watch them with her (seriously, beats sitting all alone in my room) (ok, well not really seriously because you don't know me, but, honestly I would, and I think we actually do live not too far from each other). I'd gladly watch Herc again as well.
(and DiR so rocks) (and Good Omens)
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*sighs sadly*
And we truly don't live all that far from each other; you live in Thousand Oaks, right? And I live near Torrance. We are both citizens of the conglomeration of dinky suburbs that, united, became a teeming metropolis! With freeways that resemble mall parking lots at Christmastime!
*swells with civic pride*
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We definitely are neighbors, just under an hour according to Mapquest. You should come to Game Night some Friday :)
Love your icon.
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I would also like to see X-Men, just because it was the one on the list that didn't belong. And I am such a geek; I still read them.
But I probably wouldn't mind any of the others.
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But, see, my FIHL would be so intensely Methos-focused that I think I'd be, um. Pilloried by all true HL fans. (It's not my fault, really it isn't. He's just...very compelling.)
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::blinks:: There were other characters to focus on? What?
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Anyway, I had a point...oh, yes, it was pretty much "yay Methos"!
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It was when I still played....
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But, see, my FIHL would be so intensely Methos-focused that I think I'd be, um. Pilloried by all true HL fans.
Oh, but he's my favorite too. He is compelling. (To me) much more interesting than DM, who's so young and black and white. Methos is just so incredibly layered you can do almost anything with him. He's so much fun.
Actually, that's part of the fun of the HL fandom. There were so many fascinating characters introduced that, even though they didn't get as much attention on screen, they left so much fodder for fanfiction. There are so many stories DM doesn't even appear in. I don't know what "true fans" you're talking about, because I knew plenty that focused on the others. (Contrary to what the finale would have us believe, the Immortal world did not revolve around DM.)
. . . and before I get pilloried (cause it's one thing to focus on one character; it's a completely different thing to come across like I didn't like DM) It wasn't that I didn't like DM. It's because HL was all about DM that I felt by the time the series was done, there wasn't much left to do with him. Canon had pretty much spelled out his whole life, and his character kind of dictated what was to come. But there was endless fun left to have with the others. *rubs hands with evil glee*
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I just read through FIHL tags - and thank you so much for the Smallville comments. So true about the horror on the TV, and so entertainingly put. There are ridiculous amounts of good stories in that fandom, but none of them are from the canon.
Would love to see you do Sports Night, which have never seen, but people-I-worshipped wrote in it, and lo, there you have it. SN's unavail on DVD or VHS in the UK (curses). It is bizarre to be reading fanfics when you haven't done canon. How on earth do you recc things when you haven't seen the show?
Seconding, possibly thirding, the Dark is Rising enthusiasm. Perhaps it has more lowkey fans than are apparent.
Also tempted to suggest Blakes 7 for the camp factor. Shiny blue eyeshadow, in an Abba's-in-the-charts-+-not-being-ironic way; a space commander who wore evening gowns on the bridge of her ship, sarcastic computer hacker in leather and studs, visibly squeezed budget because the BBC loathes sf.. give it a go, go on..
Anyway, I should comment more often. Your posts are a joy.
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This is a very unfair situation, and you should clearly protest. Possibly with violence. (I'm not sure who the violence should be directed toward, though. The gods of DVD distribution, perhaps?)
How on earth do you recc things when you haven't seen the show?
Well, most of the time I haven't seen the show, because - um. Typically I get a better understanding of the canon by reverse engineering it from the fan fiction than I get if I do watch the show. I know for lots of people it doesn't work that way, but - well, TV and I have never been friends, and I just do better with the written word, so for me fan fiction renders all these shows I would never have understood magically accessible.
In short: parallax and triangulation. These are the weapons we use to back engineer the canon from the FF. And powerful weapons they are, too.
Perhaps it has more lowkey fans than are apparent.
I am coming to this conclusion myself. And, really, I could not be happier.
Your posts are a joy.
*beams*
Thank you! And, yes, with flattery like that, you should *totally* comment more often.
*heart swells three sizes*
*head follows suit*
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I daresay you have this DiR link already, but just in case:
Bran/Will (http://kestrelsan.sockiipress.org/dirlinks.html)
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And Dark is Rising, because as much as the ending makes me whimper and demand, "Fixie!" The Dark is Rising is on my list of best-formative-books.
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I have incredible sympathy with your explaining-the-DCU dilemma. Comic book canons are like nothing else on earth, truly. (
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I think I need more coffee for coherence.
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Come to think of it, there should be Sneakers FF. Lots and lots of it.
*sulks*
the vaguely gay fandom of my heart
Yes! This is precisely the right description of SN.
*feels all warm inside just thinking about Danny and Casey*
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You know, I'm starting to suspect that all you DCU people just want to see me twitch. You do know that the fandom is entirely summaryproof, right?
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a plea from the shadows in the back of the room...
Because we have now determined that I will follow wherever you lead.
Even into the arms fo the Widow Twanky (yes, I downloaded the vid. Yes, I've shown it to Himself, dear friends, my mother ...)
Re: a plea from the shadows in the back of the room...
You don't want to give me such power. It goes to my head, really it does.
*begins scheming*
(Side note: for some reason, your comment caused two fandoms to fuse in my mind, and suddenly - okay, you know the scene in Hercules (it's in the Widow Twanky vid) where the Amazons are chasing him down the hill? I suddenly pictured that happening to Sheppard and McKay. My head is a fun place to be at times, I tell you.)
Re: a plea from the shadows in the back of the room...
The scenery is gorgeous and the stunt coordinator should have been and possibly was paid more than the scriptwriter.
Spectacularly funny.
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But still, I'd be curious about Dark Is Rising.
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*blushes*
*allows praise to go to her head*
*begins plotting to conquer all of fandom*
But still, I'd be curious about Dark Is Rising.
Have you read the Dark Is Rising books? Because if you haven't, you so totally should.
*pimps*
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The only RL people I know who love DiR are Best Beloved and my sister. (Well, plus
*tears of joy*
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It's a kiddie fandom, but, ever since Daemonology, I realized, the fandom should be much much bigger.
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And I totally second
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Yup. Herc and Iolaus. Only a little bit gay but a whole lot HOT!
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But is it actually possible to make Hercules' pants gayer? I thought this was basically the fandom that others pointed to when they needed to define gay pants.
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Another vote here for Hercules. Why- because the canon of the show is so cracked out. Period, end of sentance. Oh, and cause of the 'holy crap there should be a law against this much HOTNESS in one show' statement.
On another note, loved your take on Due South. Another show that is cracked out with the really really really HOT.
Now why do I want to see a story with Iolaus and RayK meeting up and discussing their totally wacked out partners that they can't help but love... *hmmm*
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*shows off own dS icon*
Thank you, both for voting and loving my dS summary. DS is one of my main comfort fandoms. Love! Mountie! Love! Cop!
*dreamy sigh*
(And you are quite right about the story - I think Ray and Iolaus could bond about being the scrappy blond sidekick.
"The worst part," Ray said, slouching even lower over his beer, "is that he thinks he's immortal."
"The worst part of mine," Iolaus said, "is that he probably is."
Ray patted Iolaus' shoulder in sympathy. "Okay. You win that one." He waved at the bartender and ordered another round.
And it would be fantastic to see Hercules and Fraser forced to make conversation. I'd pay to see that.)
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I'm loving the F/V/K movement that is going on there now... very very HOT!
BWAHAHA! I love that little snippet. I can hear that convo.
You're right about Herc and Fraser- that would be amusing. :)
I may have to try that...
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May I note that you have +1000 people watching your updates, so you could do the fandom a lot of help?
/pleading
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It just might not be the next time - not so much for voting reasons, as it'll take me a while to work through the entire canon and then digest it enough to summarize it. (Uh. Do not take the metaphor I accidentally started with the word "digest" to its logical conclusion, please. Ew.)
But, yeah, I'd love to see people talking about this fandom. There should be so much for FF for it. What's there is choice, but there's not enough.
*whimpers*
*twitches*
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So. Yes. How are you watching? The episode comm is pretty dead.
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Also, The Dark is Rising = love.
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Second, what was the name of that software you told me about awhile back that will allow me to transfer my tunes from my iPod to my computer?
Thanks and drive-by hugs!!
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*is very proud*
It's PodUtil (http://www.kennettnet.co.uk/software/podutil.php). Unfortunately, I haven't a hope in hell of finding the LJ entry in which
*drive-by hugs right back at you*
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I'm one of those HP "others" - mostly because I love your humor and would love to see it applied to my current favorite fandom. :)