Poll: Vid Permissions

[thefourthvine]

Recently, I have been doing some codeine-enhanced pondering of vids - specifically, linking to them or recommending them, and how we do that, and how we get permission to do that. (This was inspired by a discussion with someone, but I won't be mentioning her name unless she indicates that she wants me to.) Because in media fandom, my understanding is that fannish etiquette requires you to ask permission before you link to or recommend a vid. But I could be wrong. I have yet to get my hands on miss_manners161's Guide to Fannish Etiquette. That thing is so damned hard to find.

So, in the absence of a definitive ruling, I thought I'd ask vidders.

There aren't, however, a lot of vidders reading this LJ, I don't think. And I'd like to get responses from as wide a cross-section of the vid-making community as possible. So, if you are a vidder (or, as AMV people put it, editor) - or if you aren't, but a lot of vidders read your LJ, or if you have the password to the Secret Clubhouse where all the cool vidkids hang out - could you please link to or pimp this? Great would be my joy and appreciation.

Obviously, only those with LJ accounts can take this poll, but anyone can comment anonymously. (Or, heck, email me if you like - thefourthvine at livejournal dot com will find me.)

And, just to repeat: this poll is for those who have vidded only. There will be a poll for non-vidders, though, coming soon.

[Poll #796561]

Comments

[destina.livejournal.com]

My view is this: if I make a public post, or a public announcement, it's fair game for reccing or linking or discussion or whatever. It'd be ridiculous of me to think otherwise. However, my main vid site is password protected, so I'd consider it extremely bad manners for anyone reccing a particular vid on that site to attempt to link directly to the vid; a link to the site's main page (where passwords can be obtained) is the polite alternative.

If I make an announcement with a request that recs be linked to a particular post, etc, that's what I'd prefer to see happen. That's usually because I'm temporarily hosting a vid on my personal site, and I don't want direct download links cropping up; the vids are there short-term only.

I do try to be clear about these things, because of the very concerns you're asking about. :)

[thefourthvine.livejournal.com]

... Am I allowed to ask what the, um, thing in your icon is? Because it looks like a big red sock with a butt on top. But I'm pretty sure it can't be.

if I make a public post, or a public announcement, it's fair game for reccing or linking or discussion or whatever.

To my astonishment - and in direct contradiction of all the information I could find when I started recommending vids - nearly everyone agrees with you on this. I think this may be the influence of LJ culture, here, which is probably affecting vidders much more now than it was even two years ago.

I do try to be clear about these things, because of the very concerns you're asking about.

And - trust me on this - recommenders love you for it. Or, okay, I do, anyway. I can't speak for all vid recommenders. We don't have a union or anything. (But if we did, clarity in terms of linking requirements would be very high on our wishlist, I think.)

[destina.livejournal.com]

m I allowed to ask what the, um, thing in your icon is? Because it looks like a big red sock with a butt on top.

LOL! That's Gossamer, the monster from the two Bugs Bunny horror cartoons. He's a big ball of red hair, with tennis shoes. In that frame, his hair has been blown off by dynamite. Which is pretty much how vid farr feels, to me. *g*

To my astonishment - and in direct contradiction of all the information I could find when I started recommending vids - nearly everyone agrees with you on this.

I still see people having a cow every now and then about links to public posts, and I think it's ridiculous. If they don't want it linked, they have three choices: don't post in the first place, take the post down, or make it private so others can't see it. I really have to stifle the urge to tell people not to be irrational about this issue, from time to time. There's no expectation of privacy in a public journal unless one takes steps to make it so.

[thefourthvine.livejournal.com]

That's Gossamer, the monster from the two Bugs Bunny horror cartoons.

Bugs. Bunny. Horror. Cartoons. You're - you're kidding, right?

Now, granted, I am no Bugs Bunny expert (I'm not even a Bugs Bunny novice, really), but Bugs Bunny = cross-dressing carrot-obsessed rabbit, yes? This does not, to my mind, lend itself to the horror milieu.

I still see people having a cow every now and then about links to public posts, and I think it's ridiculous.

*grim*

Yes. And, actually, I mostly see this in areas unrelated to vidding. If you don't want your story or meta or random assortment of vowels and consonants linked, well, that's why brad made the lock feature. It's the internet! Privacy is not exactly the default assumption out here.