Poll: Vid Permissions

[thefourthvine]

Recently, I have been doing some codeine-enhanced pondering of vids - specifically, linking to them or recommending them, and how we do that, and how we get permission to do that. (This was inspired by a discussion with someone, but I won't be mentioning her name unless she indicates that she wants me to.) Because in media fandom, my understanding is that fannish etiquette requires you to ask permission before you link to or recommend a vid. But I could be wrong. I have yet to get my hands on miss_manners161's Guide to Fannish Etiquette. That thing is so damned hard to find.

So, in the absence of a definitive ruling, I thought I'd ask vidders.

There aren't, however, a lot of vidders reading this LJ, I don't think. And I'd like to get responses from as wide a cross-section of the vid-making community as possible. So, if you are a vidder (or, as AMV people put it, editor) - or if you aren't, but a lot of vidders read your LJ, or if you have the password to the Secret Clubhouse where all the cool vidkids hang out - could you please link to or pimp this? Great would be my joy and appreciation.

Obviously, only those with LJ accounts can take this poll, but anyone can comment anonymously. (Or, heck, email me if you like - thefourthvine at livejournal dot com will find me.)

And, just to repeat: this poll is for those who have vidded only. There will be a poll for non-vidders, though, coming soon.

[Poll #796561]

Comments

[thefourthvine.livejournal.com]

I am somewhat straddling the fence - when people access my password protected site, I ask that they not upload my vids to youtube, sell them for crack or post/rec them in a media owned non-fannish forum.

I don't count that as straddling the fence, because all of those things are absolutely against the rules, along with hotlinking and clip theft and so on. (Unfortunately, some people still do them, but those people are clearly in the wrong. Also, I sincerely hope, very, very young, and thus likely to outgrow it soon.)

Other than that they need no permission if they want to rec it in their LJ, on a closed mailing list or a fannish forum.

*thoughtful*

So does that mean I don't need to ask for specific permission from you to rec your vids here, linking only to the LJ post (where available) or the site entry page (when there is no LJ post)? You can of course say no, that I should still get specific permission each time; I'm just asking for clarification purposes.

[morgandawn.livejournal.com]

nods. no permission needed to rec the vid in LJ. Most LJ's are not affialiated with the recording or movie industry.

Now going over to the WB forums and talking about a vidder's vid - I'd think twice before that because those forums may be moderated and offending IP content removed. Sending a message "hey this is cool, look at this vid" to a news agency or a mega-news blog (Boing Boing) where it will leave the fannish world and be picked up by the non-fannish audience - I'd also check with the vidder to make certain they are comfortable with that exposure.

This is what my website says before you enter:


I agree not to link to, archive, sample, or distribute anything on this site without the written permission of Morgan Dawn.

Signed,

(your name)

We ask you to send this statement to help keep vidding in the fannish community.

This means:

* posting to a fannish LJ, fine;
* posting to a small yahoo group, fine;
* posting to Televison without Pity or uploading to YouTube or burning a copy and handing it to the producers or writers, Not fine.

If you have any questions, please ask first. Thanks!