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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2006-08-16 02:08 am
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Poll: Vid Permissions

Recently, I have been doing some codeine-enhanced pondering of vids - specifically, linking to them or recommending them, and how we do that, and how we get permission to do that. (This was inspired by a discussion with someone, but I won't be mentioning her name unless she indicates that she wants me to.) Because in media fandom, my understanding is that fannish etiquette requires you to ask permission before you link to or recommend a vid. But I could be wrong. I have yet to get my hands on [livejournal.com profile] miss_manners161's Guide to Fannish Etiquette. That thing is so damned hard to find.

So, in the absence of a definitive ruling, I thought I'd ask vidders.

There aren't, however, a lot of vidders reading this LJ, I don't think. And I'd like to get responses from as wide a cross-section of the vid-making community as possible. So, if you are a vidder (or, as AMV people put it, editor) - or if you aren't, but a lot of vidders read your LJ, or if you have the password to the Secret Clubhouse where all the cool vidkids hang out - could you please link to or pimp this? Great would be my joy and appreciation.

Obviously, only those with LJ accounts can take this poll, but anyone can comment anonymously. (Or, heck, email me if you like - thefourthvine at livejournal dot com will find me.)

And, just to repeat: this poll is for those who have vidded only. There will be a poll for non-vidders, though, coming soon.

[Poll #796561]

I think it has changed a lot recently.

[identity profile] laurashapiro.livejournal.com 2006-08-16 06:00 pm (UTC)(link)
More people used to want to fly under the radar than do now, so you mostly have us old school holdouts with our paranoia and our passwords. (: I believe that the YouTubeification of the world is going to break down a lot of these barriers, for good or ill, and that the RIAA and MPAA will be fighting bloody battles for a long time, but will lose.

Re: I think it has changed a lot recently.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-08-17 10:09 am (UTC)(link)
This sounds very right to me, based on the results of the poll. Not so much the paranoia part of it - the thing is, most people with passwords either locked up after an Incident or do it to prevent an Incident (like, god forbid, a close encounter of the RIAA kind), so it isn't paranoia - but the differing mindsets based on when people got into vidding.

The pioneers got used to being on the fringes, to keeping quiet, to lying low. The newcomers are used to being amongst multitudes; they worry more about how to get the word out than how to keep it all on the down-low.

Um. Can you tell I'm rehearsing the meta post? But, yes, I think you've put your finger on it. The poll results totally bear you out on this; everyone who has said no on the permission question, for example, is someone who has been around a while, and a lot of them have been burned in one way or another.

the RIAA and MPAA will be fighting bloody battles for a long time, but will lose

From your lips to god's ears.

Yay, a meta post!

[identity profile] laurashapiro.livejournal.com 2006-08-18 02:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I shall look forward to it.

I had a conversation with someone this weekend at VVC (and dammit, I forget who), and she said that the RIAA in particular would be in retreat for years, but that a lot of people would be hurt as they fought viciously until the end. I think it's important to remember that while many of us assume they can't win in the end, that doesn't mean they can't still do a lot of damage.