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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2006-10-22 06:47 pm
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Poll: Consensus, Part One

So. I miss talking to and hearing from y'all. But I'm suffering from a tiny problem, namely absence of any ability to finish anything. Someday I hope to be able to write actual useful sentences that connect to other sentences again, but today is not that day, so I'm going to do a themed poll series instead of meta or a themed recs post. (There are only three parts to this themed poll set, but I realize that, from me, three posts is totally massive spamming. My apologies in advance.)

The poll's theme is: consensus.

In part one, below, I'm going to try to establish my relative fannish sanity by consensus. To do so, I need to take you on a brief tour of my brain, focusing on two particular fannish things it does that I'm starting to suspect are - well, weird. (And keep in mine I'm judging myself compared to other fans; we'd already be considered insane by many of Them Folks Out There.)

We will now depart on our trip through TFV's brain. Please keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times.

Imaginary Fandoms. I have, um, imaginary fandoms. I don't mean original fiction that I tell myself - I mean original fandoms, where I come up with, for example, a long and detailed original story, and then entertain myself with considering - and sometimes, um, even writing - various types of fan fiction or kerfluffles or meta that might result from given installments of the story. Sometimes I do, like, a TV series, and cast it with imaginary actors and plan out both FPF and RPF. In my most recent imaginary fandom, I've even begun mentally vidding it.

These imaginary fandoms hit basically all my buttons, of course. I'm not actually going to describe this in any kind of detail, because, um, oh my god so embarrassing that I kind of want to die just from typing it out, but the current one involves time traveling teams (one "temporal scientist" and one assassin-ish type) from the future. The main team, at this point (in my head, we have arrived roughly at book or season three), has uncovered evidence that they are working for - and trapped by, and no, I'm not even going to elaborate on the whole legal enslavement aspect, because I do not want to die of embarrassment - an organization of extremely questionable ethics and purpose, which opposes an organization that also has extremely questionable ethics and purpose. Oh, and the timestream, which they're supposed to protect, is slowly dissolving.

I have assorted mental fan fiction for this story, all carefully tagged to various chapters or episodes. I have, as I said, mental vids. I entertained myself on one long, hideous drive to Pasadena imagining the meta resulting from the end of book or season one.

I'm pretty sure that all this is the very definition of sad and pathetic. But, hey, this is fandom - maybe we all do this. Do you?

Epics That Must Not Be Read. (Term borrowed from the only other person I know for sure has written one of these. She will not be named here - unless she just wants to be - out of mercy for her.) Another thing I do is write these long, involved pieces of FF that are only for an audience of one, and that one person is me. They're always AUs of some kind, and they always start in canon and move sharply away from it, and they always entertain the hell out of me. But only me.

I've written two. The first is a BtVS story that currently stands at 80 pages of actual story, 30 more of notes and dialog, and 5 of outline, plus 10 pages of deleted scenes. It assumes that canon remains the same up to "Once More with Feeling." (Please note that "Once More with Feeling" is the only episode of BtVS season six that I've seen - and I haven't seen any of five or four, either. No, wait - I think I've seen one episode in season four. My point is, the first clue I had to the ETMNBR status of this beast was that I was writing in canon I hadn't seen.) At that point, a single line changes, and this massively alters everything from then on. In terms of timeline, I've written up to where season nine would have been if there had been one, and I know how things will resolve in season ten.

There are only two people in the world who would be interested in this story; one is me, and the other is Best Beloved. We've both read it. I know it's an ETMNBR, so I'm not worried about finishing it. But I re-read it fairly regularly, and I still write on it from time to time, because it entertains me so damned much.

The other one is much more embarrassing because I didn't realize it was an ETMNBR until after I sent it to be beta-read. It's also rather long (and needs to be much, much longer), an AU that assumes canon up to a certain point and then sharply diverges, and entertaining only to me. (My poor, poor betas - some of them actually read the fucker, and provided really helpful, thoughtful, useful comments - in short, they helped me make a story that was interesting only to me even more interesting. To me. At the cost of a lot of their time and effort. I would send them flowers and chocolate except that I'm embarrassed to speak to them.)

Now for consensus. Feel free to judge harshly.

[Poll #851020]

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-10-23 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really have imaginary fandoms, but they sound totally cool, and I wish you'd post more about them. I would be fascinated.

Well, except for the part where just writing the summary in the post up there was hideously, writhe-inducingly embarrassing, and I left out, like, 90% of the details. (Very dubious medical ethics! People who are not especially bad who are doing very bad things for reasons they sincerely believe are right! Mandatory chemically-induced memory loss! Tests that measure levels of empathy and tendency toward sociopathy! Hacked tests that measure levels of empathy and tendency toward sociopathy! Technological haves and have-nots! And so very much more. It's - it's my issues on display, is what it is, and the whole thing is just totally humiliating.)

I think my favourite is the one where Elizabeth is running a small railway company in Victorian India.

I would read that with the greatest pleasure. OMG, that is the most excellent concept ever.
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[personal profile] wychwood 2006-10-23 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I seriously don't understand why you find this embarrassing. It sounds fascinating to me. Dubious medical ethics is par for the course on most shows containing doctors (and, hello, SGA) - if you *know* they're dubious, you're already doing better than half the industry *g*. And I love people who do bad stuff because they believe it's good; they're totally the best kind of bad guy. Also, the digital divide is both fascinating (possibly mostly to me) and interestingly current. Honestly, to me this sounds less "embarrassing" and more "omg moremoremore now!". (Also, I've been in SGA fandom for eighteen months, and I'm used to you guys taking potentially cracked out ideas and making great stories with them, but this genuinely sounds intriguing to me. I would meta on this fandom!)

And I thought - you know you aren't the only one with imaginary fandoms, because look at [livejournal.com profile] mina_de_malfois and all the related activities :)

I would read that with the greatest pleasure. OMG, that is the most excellent concept ever.

Like I said above, Elizabeth's Simon gets eaten by tigers! Also, John is a train-driver. It's... really, I have no words for the wrongness *g*.

[identity profile] jehnt.livejournal.com 2006-10-23 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Out of curiousity, does train-driver John have a hat? One of those ... train-driver hats?

(Also, ++good on the Simon getting eaten by tigers. WTF LOL. Elizabeth's pain! I can hardly imagine. Does she ride elephants and adopt local children? I totally read a romance novel like that once.)
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[identity profile] dzurlady.livejournal.com 2006-10-24 06:08 am (UTC)(link)
Ah, romance novels. I read so many of them until I got bored and went looking for gay porn, and eventually found fandom. *clutches* More romances should consider having wing!fic and genderswap and other things. It would add a bit of interest back in. There could be an imprint for it - you know how Harlequin had 'Blaze' and 'Black Ribbon' and whatever? They could have 'Crack'. I would so be there.
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[personal profile] wychwood 2006-10-24 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahahaha.

John definitely has a hat of some sort, because a) he's a Victorian male, and b) India is hot. At least, the bits of India where John is driving trains. I'm not sure if it's specifically a train-driver hat, though.

Elizabeth doesn't feel much pain. Simon spent ages basically drinking himself to death in the bungalow while she ran the company (which is why she runs the company, because he won't). But it causes administrative problems, because obviously a woman can't run a railway company on her own! That would be most inappropriate.

I think she probably doesn't ride elephants, because I don't think she's quite that high-ranking. She might sort-of adopt Teyla, though :) Not that Teyla is a child...
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[personal profile] lorem_ipsum 2006-10-25 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
But those of us who have the *same* issues are becoming more intrigued with every detail you mention!