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thefourthvine) wrote2006-10-22 06:47 pm
thefourthvine) wrote2006-10-22 06:47 pm
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Poll: Consensus, Part One
So. I miss talking to and hearing from y'all. But I'm suffering from a tiny problem, namely absence of any ability to finish anything. Someday I hope to be able to write actual useful sentences that connect to other sentences again, but today is not that day, so I'm going to do a themed poll series instead of meta or a themed recs post. (There are only three parts to this themed poll set, but I realize that, from me, three posts is totally massive spamming. My apologies in advance.)
The poll's theme is: consensus.
In part one, below, I'm going to try to establish my relative fannish sanity by consensus. To do so, I need to take you on a brief tour of my brain, focusing on two particular fannish things it does that I'm starting to suspect are - well, weird. (And keep in mine I'm judging myself compared to other fans; we'd already be considered insane by many of Them Folks Out There.)
We will now depart on our trip through TFV's brain. Please keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times.
Imaginary Fandoms. I have, um, imaginary fandoms. I don't mean original fiction that I tell myself - I mean original fandoms, where I come up with, for example, a long and detailed original story, and then entertain myself with considering - and sometimes, um, even writing - various types of fan fiction or kerfluffles or meta that might result from given installments of the story. Sometimes I do, like, a TV series, and cast it with imaginary actors and plan out both FPF and RPF. In my most recent imaginary fandom, I've even begun mentally vidding it.
These imaginary fandoms hit basically all my buttons, of course. I'm not actually going to describe this in any kind of detail, because, um, oh my god so embarrassing that I kind of want to die just from typing it out, but the current one involves time traveling teams (one "temporal scientist" and one assassin-ish type) from the future. The main team, at this point (in my head, we have arrived roughly at book or season three), has uncovered evidence that they are working for - and trapped by, and no, I'm not even going to elaborate on the whole legal enslavement aspect, because I do not want to die of embarrassment - an organization of extremely questionable ethics and purpose, which opposes an organization that also has extremely questionable ethics and purpose. Oh, and the timestream, which they're supposed to protect, is slowly dissolving.
I have assorted mental fan fiction for this story, all carefully tagged to various chapters or episodes. I have, as I said, mental vids. I entertained myself on one long, hideous drive to Pasadena imagining the meta resulting from the end of book or season one.
I'm pretty sure that all this is the very definition of sad and pathetic. But, hey, this is fandom - maybe we all do this. Do you?
Epics That Must Not Be Read. (Term borrowed from the only other person I know for sure has written one of these. She will not be named here - unless she just wants to be - out of mercy for her.) Another thing I do is write these long, involved pieces of FF that are only for an audience of one, and that one person is me. They're always AUs of some kind, and they always start in canon and move sharply away from it, and they always entertain the hell out of me. But only me.
I've written two. The first is a BtVS story that currently stands at 80 pages of actual story, 30 more of notes and dialog, and 5 of outline, plus 10 pages of deleted scenes. It assumes that canon remains the same up to "Once More with Feeling." (Please note that "Once More with Feeling" is the only episode of BtVS season six that I've seen - and I haven't seen any of five or four, either. No, wait - I think I've seen one episode in season four. My point is, the first clue I had to the ETMNBR status of this beast was that I was writing in canon I hadn't seen.) At that point, a single line changes, and this massively alters everything from then on. In terms of timeline, I've written up to where season nine would have been if there had been one, and I know how things will resolve in season ten.
There are only two people in the world who would be interested in this story; one is me, and the other is Best Beloved. We've both read it. I know it's an ETMNBR, so I'm not worried about finishing it. But I re-read it fairly regularly, and I still write on it from time to time, because it entertains me so damned much.
The other one is much more embarrassing because I didn't realize it was an ETMNBR until after I sent it to be beta-read. It's also rather long (and needs to be much, much longer), an AU that assumes canon up to a certain point and then sharply diverges, and entertaining only to me. (My poor, poor betas - some of them actually read the fucker, and provided really helpful, thoughtful, useful comments - in short, they helped me make a story that was interesting only to me even more interesting. To me. At the cost of a lot of their time and effort. I would send them flowers and chocolate except that I'm embarrassed to speak to them.)
Now for consensus. Feel free to judge harshly.
[Poll #851020]
The poll's theme is: consensus.
In part one, below, I'm going to try to establish my relative fannish sanity by consensus. To do so, I need to take you on a brief tour of my brain, focusing on two particular fannish things it does that I'm starting to suspect are - well, weird. (And keep in mine I'm judging myself compared to other fans; we'd already be considered insane by many of Them Folks Out There.)
We will now depart on our trip through TFV's brain. Please keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle at all times.
Imaginary Fandoms. I have, um, imaginary fandoms. I don't mean original fiction that I tell myself - I mean original fandoms, where I come up with, for example, a long and detailed original story, and then entertain myself with considering - and sometimes, um, even writing - various types of fan fiction or kerfluffles or meta that might result from given installments of the story. Sometimes I do, like, a TV series, and cast it with imaginary actors and plan out both FPF and RPF. In my most recent imaginary fandom, I've even begun mentally vidding it.
These imaginary fandoms hit basically all my buttons, of course. I'm not actually going to describe this in any kind of detail, because, um, oh my god so embarrassing that I kind of want to die just from typing it out, but the current one involves time traveling teams (one "temporal scientist" and one assassin-ish type) from the future. The main team, at this point (in my head, we have arrived roughly at book or season three), has uncovered evidence that they are working for - and trapped by, and no, I'm not even going to elaborate on the whole legal enslavement aspect, because I do not want to die of embarrassment - an organization of extremely questionable ethics and purpose, which opposes an organization that also has extremely questionable ethics and purpose. Oh, and the timestream, which they're supposed to protect, is slowly dissolving.
I have assorted mental fan fiction for this story, all carefully tagged to various chapters or episodes. I have, as I said, mental vids. I entertained myself on one long, hideous drive to Pasadena imagining the meta resulting from the end of book or season one.
I'm pretty sure that all this is the very definition of sad and pathetic. But, hey, this is fandom - maybe we all do this. Do you?
Epics That Must Not Be Read. (Term borrowed from the only other person I know for sure has written one of these. She will not be named here - unless she just wants to be - out of mercy for her.) Another thing I do is write these long, involved pieces of FF that are only for an audience of one, and that one person is me. They're always AUs of some kind, and they always start in canon and move sharply away from it, and they always entertain the hell out of me. But only me.
I've written two. The first is a BtVS story that currently stands at 80 pages of actual story, 30 more of notes and dialog, and 5 of outline, plus 10 pages of deleted scenes. It assumes that canon remains the same up to "Once More with Feeling." (Please note that "Once More with Feeling" is the only episode of BtVS season six that I've seen - and I haven't seen any of five or four, either. No, wait - I think I've seen one episode in season four. My point is, the first clue I had to the ETMNBR status of this beast was that I was writing in canon I hadn't seen.) At that point, a single line changes, and this massively alters everything from then on. In terms of timeline, I've written up to where season nine would have been if there had been one, and I know how things will resolve in season ten.
There are only two people in the world who would be interested in this story; one is me, and the other is Best Beloved. We've both read it. I know it's an ETMNBR, so I'm not worried about finishing it. But I re-read it fairly regularly, and I still write on it from time to time, because it entertains me so damned much.
The other one is much more embarrassing because I didn't realize it was an ETMNBR until after I sent it to be beta-read. It's also rather long (and needs to be much, much longer), an AU that assumes canon up to a certain point and then sharply diverges, and entertaining only to me. (My poor, poor betas - some of them actually read the fucker, and provided really helpful, thoughtful, useful comments - in short, they helped me make a story that was interesting only to me even more interesting. To me. At the cost of a lot of their time and effort. I would send them flowers and chocolate except that I'm embarrassed to speak to them.)
Now for consensus. Feel free to judge harshly.
[Poll #851020]
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Some how, Benton Fraser is related to Harry Potter (his mother and Lily's mother were cousins AND his paternal grandfather and James Paternal grandfather were identical twins) and fraser can do magick and it would have poltics and dumbledore attempting to ignor the will of james an dlily and put harry with the dursley's where he was abused until fraser found out james was dead...
And then he gets custody of Daniel Jackson and Blair Sandburg (who were half-brothers because Naomi was an American Spy - CIA - who had a nervous breakdown after her son Michael was kidnaped at 3 months (AND became Duo Maxwell - GW) and then Melbourne was killed because he was a british spy. Naomi and Claire jackson were cousins. *facepalm*
And then Fraser gets custody of lex luthor and rodney mckay. rodney isn't related to him, but he is lex's cousin. Lex is his godson and lillian sent him copies of abuse reports and blackmailed lionel for custody.
And somewhere in there, House and Fraser end up together and at some point elliot (from law and order: svu) turns out to be House's half-brother.
Sometimes I rewrite it so House has custody of daniel and blair, or elliot has custody of blair and house of daniel.
(The WHOLE basis for this? EYES - blue or green (I like to assume redheads have green eyes...)
Um. The other ETMNBW, Fraser = Heero Yuy. With minor crossover to rourni kenshin.
See, Fraser was kidnapped by Odin, who was actually Muldoon's less-crazy brother, after fraser was kidnapped by muldoon a couple of months after his mother was murdered. He ends up with j, runs away back to his grandparents, J shows up and tells him he either comes with him or he kills his grandparents and then he arranges almost!deadly "accidents".
Fraser goes back with J, allows his name to be changed, at 16 he joins the preventers special forces task unit, at 18 he is asked to go undercover as a mountie, so he goes, Okay - I'll take after my father, and the other pilots go "bzuh?"
So fraser goes undercover and works part time with the preventers. Fast-forward, and it turns out the reason fraser was going to run away with victoria is because that was his new assignment from the preventers, because she is involved with child explotation.
And fraser is part japanese because his mother is the japanese princess who is descended of a red-hair/purple eyed rourni whose daughter married the emperor's son. Er, and he's 1/4 british and 1/4 inuit and he is STILL related to Harry Potter.
And I have cracked!out fandoms for my fics. *wins*
I also plan to be a published writer some day, so I spend half the time i'm writing one of my novels - thinking who would slash which characters and general fandom-personality types and which character would be bashed by everyone, and whether the evil!character would end up with fanboys and girls. And what the ship_manifesto people would say for their pairings. Seriously, I have one sketched out.
And I would totally write in my novel's fandoms under an assumed name. Delibertly bad!fic, etc... I think it would be amusing.
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I feel as if I should expound on the first part (fraser and house with the horde of kids) after comments from
BB: So...let me get this straight. House and Fraser are lovers and parents/guardians to Rodney McKay, Lex Luthor, Harry Potter, Daniel Jackson, *and* Blair Sandburg?!?! Where does RayK and Jack O'Neill fit into this?
Me: Last time I checked (in my head, ha - it becames a fact if it stays for more than 3 days of me thinking about it), jack had custody of his 3rd cousin, Jim Ellison. Cuz people thought he was being all mentally, emotionally and verbally abusive to his son - who was obviously have absent seizures and needed medical care.
but jack started noticing when jimmy had these seizures, so he took Jim to the best diagnostician around. And jimmy meets little blair (who is 5 years younger than daniel, so blair is 4. Harry is about 2 now, rodney is 12, Lex switches between 11 and 13). Jimmy is 11-ish.
Fraser is still working with vecchio (season 1/2, ha) and rayk is the cop who was selected to escort a case worker to talk to fraser and house. Allegations of abuse because Daniel was mute, and all the kids were home schooled (tutors, and fraser being sekritely hiding PH.D's in lingustics and medieval english lit. and masters in anthropology and pyschology). *g*
BB: I love that you have even their ages worked out. Do Blair and Jimmy becomes BFF after they meet?
Me: House decides that Jimmy isn't fucked up or epilitic. He makes up coping stratigies, etc... with Jack, and while those two work, Jimmy and Lex and Rodney play.
The play may involve mixing chemicals to make explosioins - which is another reason child protective services was called in.
And little blair wanders into the "lab" and Jimmy is the one who saves Blair from having his hair scorched all the way off, but the smell of the burning hair sends Jimmy into a zone. Rodney and Lex panick and get Fraser and Jack and House (cuz Jimmy was only going into the hospital for tests and observations, he wasn't generally kept for more than 24-48 hours - most stuff was done at House and Fraser's home) and they come back and little blair is petting Jimmy's hair like he's a kitty-cat and pulls Jimmy out of the zone.
And blair follows Jimmy around and calls him kitty and keeps trying to give him doggie treats and Jimmy is all, "Dude, Lex, your cousin/brother/whatever he is is WEIRD."
And the whole time, Daniel is hiding in his room, and he knows sign language and fraser is all "dude, how the hell do I get the kid to talk and he's not deaf so why does he think i'll think him turning his back means he's being rude."
And Harry likes to follow after blair, but he often gets really scared of loud noises, so even though he is fascinated by blair (and his HAIR) he is most often found with daniel. Daniel is teaching Harry how to read Egyptian hierglyphs because Harry used his magick to make a telepathic connection between the two.
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*awards prize*
I can't wait to see what your future fandoms do to these epics; I mean, will Fraser end up investigataing supernatural phenomena in middle America? Will they develop an intense interest in Go?
*gripped*
I spend half the time i'm writing one of my novels - thinking who would slash which characters and general fandom-personality types and which character would be bashed by everyone, and whether the evil!character would end up with fanboys and girls. And what the ship_manifesto people would say for their pairings. Seriously, I have one sketched out.
Oh, I hear that. I don't actually intend to write novels or whatever, so I don't bother writing my imaginary fandoms, but I surely think about ship manifestos and evil character fandoms and so on. It's fun!
(And more fun now that I know other people do it, too.)