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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2010-01-05 07:15 pm

200: A Single Sentence'll Sell You

The One in Which We Learn That You Can't Give the Dead Too Much Artistic License. Especially If the Dead Person's Name Is Bob Fraser. Pornography, by [personal profile] china_shop. Due South, Benton Fraser/Ray Kowalski.

Benton Fraser has porn. I just want to repeat that, because I think it's a brilliant concept that deserves far more attention than it is currently getting: Benton Fraser has porn. Yes, this story is just as good as it sounds like it must be.

But there is a down side to it, and it is this: after reading it, I could not stop imagining the porn collections of other fannish favorites. Rodney McKay likely has roughly a terabyte of porn, but really only uses three short clips and one still photo. He's just completist. Jim Kirk (Reboot) also has the terabyte of porn, but he's actually working his way through it - he jerks off to something new every time. It's all hot if you look at it the right way, you know? Batman's porn does not bear contemplation and is certainly not something I would ever want to see, so I am pleased and comforted to know that it is hidden somewhere no one will ever find it, and also it is designed to self-destruct if anyone besides Batman touches it. Clark Kent likes the underwear catalogs. He's never been able to bring himself to get turned on by anything more explicit; he's always afraid his mother will walk in. (Lex Luthor's porn, it goes without saying, is his extensive Clark Kent memorabilia collection.) Methos's porn is called his memory. Jack Harkness's porn is called everything in the world, because everything is hot. How can you put a plug in an outlet and not get turned on? And laundry! All those dirty clothes, shirts and pants and trousers all touching, writhing together: clearly the hottest thing ever.

Anyway. Obviously, if Fraser has porn, Kowalski has an interest. (And Thatcher has an issue. Turnbull has an issue, too, but it's with a faulty oven; I'm not entirely sure I want to contemplate Turnbull and porn. It's either going to be men dressed up like the Queen or - you know what, seriously, let's not go there.)

The One in Which We Learn That All Vulcans, Male and Female, Can Breastfeed, Which Is an Innovation I Support So Completely I Am Prepared to Do Illegal Genetic Experimentation to Make It Happen. A Beginner's Guide to Vulcan Sexual Practice, by [personal profile] thingswithwings. Star Trek Reboot, Jim Kirk/Spock.

There's a whole history of how this story came to be, but I'm not going to go into it here, because you don't really need to know it. You just need to know that this story is one of the more awesome explorations of kink I have ever read. The message I take away from it is: there's nothing either kinky or vanilla, but thinking makes it so. And when Jim Kirk (Reboot) is doing the thinking, you know it's going to come out (hee!) kinky, even if he has to oppose millennia of Vulcan culture to do it.

And can I just say that I love the idea of writing endless commentaries on commentaries on a list of Things Good Vulcans Don't Do? That's the concept here, and it made me want to take it to the logical conclusion, and imagine the lecture, um, circles (pits?) on Vulcan, with horrified thirteen-year-olds who are already traumatized from learning about Pon Farr being forced to present papers on and debate about things like the No Breathplay rule.

That's actually probably where the rumor that Vulcans only do it once every seven years comes from. It has nothing to do with Pon Farr, it's just, it takes the first fifty years or so of their mature lives to get over the trauma of having had to learn all the sex rules. (Because I've been watching TOS, and it's obvious to me that Spock has sex more often than One Upon a Pon Farr. He's married to Kirk! Kirk likes the sex! QED! And, no, I won't listen to counterarguments: the crazy shippiness knows no logic.)

The One in Which Morgana Punches Arthur. I Suggest Re-Reading That Part a Lot. It Never Fails to Cheer Me Up. Reciprocation, by [personal profile] astolat. Merlin, Arthur Pendragon/Merlin. (Okay, it just occurred to me - I can think of three major pairings involving a character with a single name: Kirk/Spock, Duncan/Methos, Arthur/Merlin. What's the fourth? It'd make a great recs set.)

I can tell you what I love about this story in one sentence: Arthur Pendragon is totally clueless. I mean, how could he not be? He is exactly the kind of guy who goes through life assuming that he is Just That Awesome, and yet he's decent enough to be horrified when he realizes there is a small (very small, of course, because he's Arthur Pendragon, who is, by definition, awesome) possibility he is not awesome enough.

(This is a rare intersection - stunned by own awesome x still a reasonably decent human being - and I'm not sure I can think of another character in fandom who lives there. Hell, I can only think of one person I've known in real life who does, although, sadly, I can think of many, many people who lived on just the first street. In my teen years, I slept with basically all of them, so it makes me especially happy to see one getting, you know, schooled, even in fiction.)

And Merlin - he is a reasonably decent human being who gets laid a lot, which is as he should be.

The funny thing, of course, is that Merlin could totally be Arthur times a million, because instead of princeliness, he has magic, and in other fandoms, he'd be all strutting around magicking people into worshipping his cock or whatever. (Deny it. He'd be like Jack Harkness with a magic wand - or, as I am sure Captain Harkness would insist I put it, Jack Harkness with a second magic wand.) ...And now I kind of want to read that AU, BUT. Let me soldier on with this rec.

This story is awesome, and it features these characters pretty much exactly as they are in my head, and also Merlin educating Arthur will never be less than totally appealing. Read now.

The One in Which We Learn That Draco Malfoy Is a Far Better Housekeeper than I Am. I Know. I May Not Recover from the Shame. Theft of Assets, Destruction of Property, by [personal profile] helenish. Harry Potter, Neville Longbottom/Draco Malfoy.

You know all those charts that show the various phases of the menstrual cycle with, like, drawings of the corpus luteum and stuff? That are so traumatizing when you're twelve? They should be labeled like this:
  • Ow, My Side Hurts (part of one day)1
  • Extremely Productive (eight days)
  • Days of Angst and Irritation (three days)
  • ALL THE CHOCOLATE IN THE WORLD (roughly four days)
  • For God's Sake, Let's Not Do That Again (one week)
  • Voluntary Total Amnesia about All This Crap (one week)
  • Ow, My Side Hurts (part of one day)
And so on. If they'd only posted that chart in health class, I guarantee you I would have written it in my notes, rather than the song lyrics I chose to immortalize. (I bet they were something about standing in the rain. Because of pain. I was predictable that way.)

Anyway. I try hard to save [personal profile] helenish's stories for my Days of Angst and Irritation, because they so perfectly match what I crave at that point. Things start off badly! There is miscommunication! Hurtful things are said! And then everything gets cleared up and there is True Love Forever! And all of this is wrapped in a layer of awesome so thick you want to eat it with a spoon.

But this story - this story is even better than that, because it features Draco forced to marry Neville for deflowering him, which is one of those concepts that shouldn't work at all (or be a total farce), but here it so, so works, and somehow it is just the crunchy awesome center of the awesome candy. Seriously. Read this. Especially if you're in the Days of Angst and Irritation. (I am not admitting anything in a manner admissible in a court of law here, I am just saying: I read this at exactly the right time, and there might have been tears. Possibly of joy, possibly of profound feeling. Who can say? But if there were tears, they were entirely justified, is my point.)

-Footnote-

1 Yes, I know that traditionally the first day of the cycle is the first day of your period. Of course I know that; how do you think I got the earthling? But I have considered Ow, My Side Hurts to be the start of it all since the day in my high school drama class when Mari announced she was ovulating, and all the guys reacted like she was giving birth to a tiger, and I learned that my mother had not lied: menstruation really was powerful and magical. Just, she failed to mention the magical power in question was to make boys writhe in horror.
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[personal profile] resonant 2010-01-06 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
I love your recs sets. They always make me giggle and giggle.

Okay, it just occurred to me - I can think of three major pairings involving a character with a single name: Kirk/Spock, Duncan/Methos, Arthur/Merlin. What's the fourth? It'd make a great recs set.

If Parker on "Leverage" has another name, she's keeping very, very quiet about it.
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[personal profile] pun 2010-01-06 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Duncan MacLeod of the clan MacLeod takes issue with your statement.


(he's also not too thrilled with my spelling)
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[personal profile] melannen 2010-01-06 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Batman's porn is surveillance videos.

No, really, it's basically canon that that's what the Batfamily gets off on - Barbara Gordon canonically has cameras in Dick Grayson's shower and bedroom (which he knows about) and she shares the footage with anyone in the superhero community who knows to ask. It's strongly applied that this is accepted practice among Bats and they try to make the footage interesting for each other. Though I suspect that Batman mostly watches Bruce-the-idiot and his floozies, unless there's some really good Catwoman, or Harley and Ivy are feeling generous (or unless he feels like punishing himself, yes, but he's got plenty of non-porn-related ways to do that.) Brucie, of course, doesn't *need* porn; the whole point of having too much money is that you've got people for that. (It's Matches Malone who has the porn collection that I really, really don't want to think about.)

...Clark has underwear catalogs, but Superman has x-ray vision and tacit permission to use it to get parity for the cameras in Clark's shower. :D

Um. By which I mean, yay awesome rec set! And a story about porn which I have not read!

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[personal profile] quinfirefrorefiddle 2010-01-06 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Ha! Finally, one of your rec sets where I know *all* the fandoms! And I get all the jokes?

Does Kirk not live at the cross street of "I can't hear you over how awesome I am" and "I am even awesome enough to be both awesome and a decent person"? I mean, he's annoying and pretty misogynistic in TOS, but generally gets the job done in the end.

Also, if you're looking for someone with just one name... well, Voldemort? Or Teal'c. Or Bra'tac!

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[personal profile] abbylee 2010-01-06 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
[personal profile] helenish is SO VERY MUCH my "I need an angsty story that will cheer me up" go-to-writer. I did not know what to do when her site was down! I rely on it! [personal profile] astolat also serves such a function, but generally with different angst. (Although I still love that Theft of Assets, Destruction of Property had a whole bunch of comments going "this is your happiest story ever" and me going "this is your saddest story ever!")

Also, I am mostly confused as to how I came out from that rec going [personal profile] thingswithwings wrote breastfeeding porn? How did I not notice this? Do I want to read this? HUH WHAT? And then I clicked the link and went "oh, brain!"

But I actually did not know about this story from [personal profile] china_shop and yay for the recommendation. Her stuff is always worth reading, but this was particularly fabulous.
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[personal profile] msilverstar 2010-01-06 06:20 am (UTC)(link)
Viggo/Orlando, Viggo/Bean, Orlando/Elijah -- it's convenient when one's objects of fanfic are named interestingly ;-)

Your posts are so funny that I writhe slightly with uber-liberal guilt and worry that you feel pressured to be amusing.

In my teen years, I slept with basically all of them would this be during the 1970s?
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[personal profile] such_heights 2010-01-06 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
Yay, I do adore those Trek and Merlin stories. Must get on the HP one directly!

Speaking of Merlin, Gwen is too awesome to have a last name. There's also The Doctor and The Master, and Time Lords in general.
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[personal profile] thedivinegoat 2010-01-06 02:20 pm (UTC)(link)
But human men can breastfeed, there have been several cases where the mother of a baby has died, and with no other option the father has successfully breastfeed the baby.

(Sorry, pedantry over.)
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[personal profile] feanna 2010-01-06 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, if you're counting Spock, then pretty much all Vulcans should count towards the one name thing. Therefore Sarek/Amanda all pairings involving Tuvoc (from Voyager, who is canonically married, but his wife is not with them) and T'Pol (from Enterprise) and so on.

I'd disqualify Voldemort on grounds of being canonically named Tom Riddle, because otherwise you'd have to include everybody with a pseudonym f.e. Batman etc.

You've mentioned LotR (also the backstories Silmarillion and so on).
More people from Stargate.

Hagrid's little brother? (SORRY, I HAD TO)

I think most settings involving fantasy(creatures) and/or aliens have a good chance of having characters with one name.

Question: If "Number One" (or "One)(from Trek) is actually her name as some fic authors have decided on (and there's no canonical name for her) does it count (double)?
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[personal profile] the_shoshanna 2010-01-06 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
after reading it, I could not stop imagining the porn collections of other fannish favorites

God, I love reading you.

I can think of three major pairings involving a character with a single name: Kirk/Spock, Duncan/Methos, Arthur/Merlin. What's the fourth?

Bond/M?

ETA: Oh, and I know Spock is or used to be commonly believed to have a surname, but it's Mxyzptlk or something, totally unpronounceable by humans. I can't remember if that's canon or fanon, though (but it predates all Treks except possibly TNG).
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[personal profile] adonnchaid 2010-01-06 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Spock does have a surname. In the ep with the alien flower love spores where he falls for Jill Ireland, she asks about it, and he tells her she couldn't pronounce it.

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[personal profile] merrily 2010-01-07 03:48 am (UTC)(link)
Ahahaha, your rec lists make me laugh so hard.

Particuarly made of awesome was this bit:
Batman's porn does not bear contemplation and is certainly not something I would ever want to see

SO TRUE. So very, very true.
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[personal profile] pineapplechild 2010-03-06 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
I love your recs, always. They make me laugh so hard my friends come to check on me.
Also, your chart = win. It's not my chart, but I love it. As regards the magical super power of the period, I just gotta say, it's been my one hard and fast rule that I don't date guys who can't handle the period. (same for girls, but I don't know many girls who do.) If you tweak out about my monthly bleeding time, you don't get access to the lady, much less the ladyparts.

[identity profile] csad21.livejournal.com 2010-04-12 07:46 am (UTC)(link)
You know, for the last few years, your rec page has been the source of choice whenever I needed particularly good reads, mostly in the SGA and Due South fandom. Today, when I checked it again for Due South stories, I found this entry about Fraser's porn, and your line of:

I'm not entirely sure I want to contemplate Turnbull and porn.

And since I'm a contrary person, I couldn't pass this up. :) Here's a link you should check out in relation to that: Savor The Flavor (Or Five Meals Ray Kowalski Never Had) (http://ds-seekritsanta.livejournal.com/7194.html) by Heuradys

Your line about Turnbull led me to believe you don't know about this story, or else you'd be adding comments about scarring experiences. :)
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[identity profile] giandujakiss.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Spock technically has a last name. Humans can't pronounce it.

Angel/Spike.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
SPOCK COUNTS, DAMN IT. (Seriously, I will be in such trouble if I do a recs set and there's not a Kirk/Spock story in it. Best Beloved has been insisting that if I'm going to make her sit through TOS and the movies, I had damn well better rec some stories.)

But, ooo, Angel/Spike. That's a double! *awards you a prize*
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[identity profile] xparrot.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Your description of chars' porn collections = AWESOME. Especially Jack Harkness. Laundry is so hot, yo!

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Laundry is TOTALLY hot.

(I suspect that Ianto and Jack, at some point, had a conversation in which Ianto disclosed - probably in a bulleted list, with helpful literature included and possibly a PowerPoint presentation - his own kinks, and then asked Jack his, and Jack got this hugely blank look on his face and said, "I have to choose?" And then he spent the rest of the day coming up to Ianto and adding five or ten more things to the list.

So eventually Ianto printed out a list from the internet and said, "I'll just consider all of these a definite yes, then, shall I?"

And Jack said, a little dreamily, "Oh, yeah, that's hot."

"Which one?"

"The internet. God, when I think of all those signals, touching and combining so people can create their own porn -"

And Ianto added another item to his Torchwood Rules List, which was, "Don't ask Captain Harkness about anything to do with sex. Just don't. You'll never look at Jaffa cakes the same way again.")

[identity profile] hannahrorlove.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
In regards to the Star Trek story: Someone I know wrote a really good Spock/McCoy story exploring how Vulcans separated "sexual attraction" from "mating lust" that deals with Things Good Vulcans Do Not Do. You want the link?

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
YES PLEASE YES YES YES.

[identity profile] oddmonster.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
(Okay, it just occurred to me - I can think of three major pairings involving a character with a single name: Kirk/Spock, Duncan/Methos, Arthur/Merlin. What's the fourth? It'd make a great recs set.)

Crockett/Tubbs.

:D

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I have no idea who they are. *sadface*
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[personal profile] runpunkrun 2010-01-06 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, Angel! Did we ever know his real name? And possibly Faith, though fandom scrounged up a last name for her somewhere.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 05:13 am (UTC)(link)
Angel AND Spike, as [livejournal.com profile] giandujakiss pointed out. It's the vampire double feature!

(Faith is fanonically named Lehane, but I've never seen the canon reason for it. SHE COUNTS. Mostly because mmm, Faith. She should count for everything ever.)

*awards you gold star*

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[identity profile] polaris-starz.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
(Okay, it just occurred to me - I can think of three major pairings involving a character with a single name: Kirk/Spock, Duncan/Methos, Arthur/Merlin. What's the fourth? It'd make a great recs set.)

Dean/Castiel is another one. Also, Aziraphale/Crowley.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 05:18 am (UTC)(link)
*awards you TWO gold stars for coming up with two pairings*

Wow. The thing is, I now have enough for, like, a double recs set. I sense a challenge! Which will probably not be fulfilled until I reach my 300th set, but still.

[identity profile] tevere.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
A recs set that starts off with Fraser having a porn collection and ends with a discussion of the menstrual cycle can only be one thing: BRILLIANT.

(Hmm, I think I lack that eight days of productivity-- I just have eleven straight days of angst and irritation. WOE.)

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
A recs set that starts off with Fraser having a porn collection and ends with a discussion of the menstrual cycle can only be one thing: BRILLIANT.

Far better than a recs set that starts off with Fraser having a menstrual cycle would be, for sure.

Hmm, I think I lack that eight days of productivity-- I just have eleven straight days of angst and irritation. WOE.

Woe indeed! I suggest you file a complaint with the United Nations Female Reproductive Cycle Fairness Committee, although in all honesty I should tell you that they've been together 11 years and are still reviewing their procedures manual. They don't expect to hear an actual complaint until 2091.

[identity profile] bleedtoblue.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
On the subject of the porn collections of various fictional characters: you have a delightfully disturbing turn of mind. And thanks for the rec.

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[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 05:23 am (UTC)(link)
Can I blame [livejournal.com profile] china_shop for that one? She was the one who put it IN my mind, so really, I think the whole thing is on her. I am in no way responsible for my disturbing turn of mind!

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[identity profile] dramaturgca.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
I am in those days. And I have a cold. WOE.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
Read the Harry Potter story! You will feel better!

And, really, a cold is NOT FAIR. *gives your rhinovirus a stern look*

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I can think of three major pairings involving a character with a single name: Kirk/Spock, Duncan/Methos, Arthur/Merlin. What's the fourth?

Mulder/Scully. : )

Thanks as always for the recs -- and the laughs. Fictional characters' porn collections! (The possibilities are endless. Also, it occurs to me and speaking of Mulder -- they're canon.)

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
*snerk*

It doesn't count if you have a first name and just refuse to use it because you're afraid you might, I don't know, actually engage emotionally with another human being or something.

And, hey! Does canon say what kind of porn Mulder favors? *curious*

[identity profile] elucreh.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
I actually DO know one--ONE--human being who is stunned by own awesome x decent human being. But he didn't grow up SBOA, he sort of converted to it when he went from being the nice, shy, mildly geeky boy in high school to going on a mission for his church (where he shed the shy) and then attending a college where nice, religious boys are The Be All And End All of goals for 75% of the female students. It was an inflation to the ego, to say the very least.

He has the instincts and kindness of his childhood, and once he is married and out of his very unique circumstances I am sure he will stop being SBOA. I am willing to put up with him in the meantime.

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He has the instincts and kindness of his childhood, and once he is married and out of his very unique circumstances I am sure he will stop being SBOA.

*crosses fingers*

Being stunned by your own awesome is a hard habit to break, but I am hoping the childhood influences win!

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[identity profile] puckling.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
Seriously. Read this.

I was having a pretty okay day before this, but that fic elevated it to a OH MY GOD I AM FULL OF LOVE FOR THE WHOLE WORLD AND ALSO FOOOOOOOOOOOOD mood. A well deployed kitchen/chef combo will always make me swoon.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2010-01-06 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
The FOOOOOOOOOD is viciously unfair, in my opinion. I usually read fan fiction while nursing the earthling, and it is NOT FAIR to make me so hungry when I cannot get any food!

And, really, there should be more stories in which characters cook lots and lots. (I realize this might sound slightly contradictory, but I contain multitudes!)

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