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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2006-01-18 02:31 pm
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Rant: Is There a DSM-IV Category for Fan Fiction Induced Insanity?

I haven't been sleeping much lately. This means I've reading a lot of FF. (Yes, even more than usual. But, on the bright side, not quite enough to qualify me for an intervention at the Fan Mental Health Clinic.) Which means that it's time for another damn rant. (If you're new here: in rants, the cut tag indicates mean-spiritedness and general pedantry. Click at your own risk.)

I swear that I will get back to recommending actual FF very, very soon. And it will be even sooner if we could all attend to a few small matters before I lose my mind.



Sentients only, please. Or, to put it another way: could we please stop granting quite so much volition to individual body parts? By which I mean - if you're writing something, like for example a sex scene, and character A shoves his tongue into character B's mouth, please don't write as though the tongue just crawled in there on its own. If you write, "his tongue reached for hers," I'm expecting tentacle porn, okay? I'm expecting Alien-based horror tentacle porn, as, like, the tongue spears into her mouth, implants her with eggs, and then rips her brain out. I'm not thinking, "Aw, they're kissing. How sweet." I am writhing in anticipation of looming terror. And, yes, fear does lead to arousal blah blah blah, but alien implantation scenes in the middle of smut lead to insanity. Attribute the action to the person performing it. At least most of the time. I'm begging you.

Zombies need brains! I, on the other hand, think I'm seeing too many of them. Or rather, I'm seeing too much of the phrase "sucking his brains out through his cock." I mean, yes, I get it. I got the last few thousand times someone used this phrase in FF. And it's starting to sound...well, creepy. Eerie. Like a really mutant zombie-related fetish, basically. I'll be reading along in a sex scene, and this phrase will occur, and I have this moment of nervous tension, wondering if the character giving the blowjob is really a secret zombie. (Worse, I sometimes also consider the physics of this, which is the kind of thought that can put a person off sex for life.) So, you know, it's a fine phrase. But could we give it a rest, please? Let it lie fallow for a bit? Or maybe we could implement some kind of rationing system. You know, a quota. On Mondays, people whose names begin with A-E can use it, and on Tuesdays F-J, and so on. On Sundays we all get a day of rest from the phrase. What blissful Sundays those would be.

You do not drop kisses. Go ahead, try it. You will find your lips remain firmly attached to your face no matter how hard you try to drop them on someone else. Or if they don't, you might want to see a doctor. You may be a zombie. (If so, try to get your fix the normal way. Gnawing on people's skulls was enough for zombies when I was young, and there's no need to get all fancy with it now. Sucking brains out through cocks is just not on, people. You may be undead, but you can still have class.)

Oh my god no more essence ever I mean it. If come is the essence of a man, he's not worth thinking about, let alone writing about. And if someone is touching someone else's essence, you'd better be writing Descartes/Schopenhauer and not just some random buttsex.

You need lips to kiss. So, take cocks, for example. They do not have lips and thus should not kiss each other. You would not write a story in which cocks hold hands and go on a picnic and declare love for each other and maybe whisper sweet nothings in each other's ears. The kissing cock is just the PG-13 version of that story, people. (Or potentially a quaint and curious pub name soon to appear on the cover of a Martha Grimes novel. Unless somebody stops her while there's still time. Not that I am suggesting anything, mind you.)

Forget the lies your health teacher told you. High-gauge painkillers are not instantaneously addictive. Seriously. I have taken them, and I am not a twitching addict. And going off them was not so much "hideous withdrawal" as "Hey! I can blink again!" See, if you’re taking them for actual, you know, pain, they aren’t very addictive at all. (Physical dependence does happen when you take them for a while. Which is why you taper off. Tapering off? Does not suck if you do it right.) If you’ve had, say, massive surgery to repair massive injuries and you’re on a massive pain-relief regimen as a result, yes, you will want those drugs if they’re taken away from you. But not because you’ve become addicted to them. You’ll want them because without them you’ll be in pain.

I know that seems kind of obvious. I thought so, too. But I’ve seen this more and more often in FF: a character takes - well, let’s go whole-hog and say oxycodone, the ingredient in that famously addictive drug, OxyContin. (Although even then, you take it differently for a high than for pain. Just, you know, FYI.) Takes it because, you know, he’s had his face ripped off or something (and that’s a made-up example; I’ve never read a story in which it happened, so if you’ve written one, I’m not picking on you). And he's on it for four days, and then the doctor starts "weaning" him off it, and he suffers the agonies of withdrawal. Well, OK. Withdrawal sucks, no doubt. But that character shouldn’t be going through it; he should be suffering the agonies of plain old agony, of being undermedicated by a supposed professional after having his face ripped off by the Clawbeast of the Betelgeusian Rainforest. (Or whatever.) Please, people, please - let’s keep our sick bay stories and our addiction stories separate, OK? There’s plenty of medically realistic suffering you can inflict. Without making every fan on the planet terrified of taking medication for pain.

What happens in the past stays in the past. Likewise with the future and the present. Pick a tense. Any tense. And then fucking stay with it. I don't care if you write your fan fiction in Past Inverted Pluperfect Imperative (actually, I would very likely erect a shrine in your honor), as long as you stay in Past Inverted Pluperfect Imperative. And if just one tense per story is too confining for you, at least limit yourself to one tense per section. And oh my god please one tense per sentence. "Was" and "is" are cousins, but they should not hang out together; their families do not get along. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Appropriate terminology. I don't want to be difficult. But is it so very challenging to consider what phrases your point-of-view character might reasonably use in, for example, a sexual setting? I mean, okay. Benton Fraser might use just about any word, including the Inuktuk word for "icicle," to describe his cock. With Fraser, I'm prepared to accept any term up to "Winky the Wonder Horse," and I'm betting some of you could make me happy with that, even. But if you've got a modern-day American military man using the phrase "manly rod," I am going to need, minimum, 2,000 words of backstory that explains how Jack O'Neill, in addition to the rest of his traumatic past, was at some point locked in a basement for three years with nothing to read but old romance novels.1

NO MORE CUTSEY PAIRING NAMES EVER I MEAN IT SO HELP ME GOD. And, yes, capslock is a crime against the internet, but sometimes it is impossible to convey the proper level of emphasis any other way. This is one of those times. I blame the more insane Harry/Hermione folks for this one. (...And, damn, I've forgotten the pairing name again. Hermeneutics? Harmonica? Help me out here, people.) But we all share the shame now, as the disease has spread to fandoms that should be innocent of any such taint. And, see, fine. If you really need to run the names of your pairing together (Although, seriously - why? It doesn't prove they were OMG meant to be together, you know. What message are you trying to convey? Theirloveissonominal?), then go right ahead. I may judge you - tough to avoid it these days, what with all the pairing name insanity going around - but I'll keep it to myself. It is your privilege to come up with mutant pairing names if you want to. It is your right.

But please, please, please, for the love of all that is holy, at least keep it relatively clear what the pairing actually is. If you tell me that you love Vecchowalski, at least I have a reasonable guess about what that might be. But if you tell me that you love Rayre, or Hooray, or Ski-Ho, that could be anything. And if you decide that Vecchio/Kowalski is now called Chicago, that is even worse. It conveys no useful information at all. (Well, okay. Some. I mean, I'd be thinking in terms of the right fandom; there are pairing names that don't even have that going for them.) Please. Please. It is wrong to make every story header an interminable guessing game. ("...Is the pairing bigger than a bread box?") You won't like it when I'm batshit insane and armed, people, and I'm getting there.

-Footnote-

1 Daniel's eyebrows shot up, and Jack mentally rewound the conversation. Shit.

"Jack," Daniel said cautiously, "did you just say 'pistoning love-muscle'?"

"No," Jack said firmly.

"Oooo-kay." There was an uncomfortable pause, and then Daniel said, very casually, "So. I'm going to get Sam and Teal'c and Janet now. You just...sit there."

"Daniel, sit down."

"I would, but now I'm not sure if I'm eating lunch with Jack O'Neill or the Goa'uld who was responsible for Barbara Cartland's incredible and disturbing productivity."

"Sit down, Daniel. And don't knock Barbara Cartland."

Daniel didn't move, but his eyebrows attempted to scurry off his face and go find Sam and Teal'c on their own.

Jack sighed. "Okay. See, when I was 26, I was on this mission..."

[identity profile] hexnessie.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
You would not write a story in which cocks hold hands and go on a picnic and declare love for each other and maybe whisper sweet nothings in each other's ears.


Awww! A Pornlequin Romance!

Just make sure the cocks don't weep. If I see another weeping cock... ::shudders::

Please continue with the 'do nots', they are a great read :D

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Just make sure the cocks don't weep. If I see another weeping cock... ::shudders::

You're bringing back terrifying memories. I wrote about weeping cocks in my first real rant (http://www.livejournal.com/users/thefourthvine/2737.html) here, almost two years ago. And I still wince when I see the phrase; to me, if a cock is weeping, it has a serious medical problem and should definitely not be having sex of any kind.

Please continue with the 'do nots', they are a great read :D

Thank you! I'm sure there will be more of these. When I finish a rant, I always think I've covered every possible hideous fan fiction thing and that I'm done at last. And then I see, for example, totally meaningless pairing names, and I'm off again.

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hee

[identity profile] kormantic.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
::drops a kiss on the top of your head::

Re: hee

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
*pinches your essence*

[identity profile] marag.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I love you. Will you marry me?

Wait, damn, I'm already married. Well, I still love you.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 07:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I love you. Will you marry me?

Hmmm. Would I get a share of the kid? Because she's awful cute. *negotiates*

Wait, damn, I'm already married. Well, I still love you.

Hmmm. Come to think of it, I am, too. We must love each other from afar!

*is very tragic and noble, like the heroine of a Victorian novel*

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[personal profile] wolfshark 2006-01-18 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, please, may I link to this?

(Though I have to be honest - I'm guilty of using Spander to describe my Buffy stuff...)

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, please, may I link to this?

Please do! You're always welcome to link to anything I post.

(Though I have to be honest - I'm guilty of using Spander to describe my Buffy stuff...)

I'm curious. I know the early Buffy years didn't have portmanteaus, and the later ones mostly seem to involve Spike - I don't see too many for pairings like Giles/Xander (even though that would be Gander) or Faith/Buffy. (Although I could just be missing them; that's entirely possible.) And I'v heard Spuffy was the first portmanteau in the fandom. So, did Spander and Spangel come into use as a play on or reaction to Spuffy?

*wins prize for Greatest Number of Uses of Pairing Portmanteaus in a Single Sentence*

*dies of shame*

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[identity profile] umbo.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 03:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, yes, a thousand times yes, especially the addiction thing and the pairing names. But, um, can't someone drop a kiss on the top of someone's head or something? Every once in a while? :-)

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 07:39 pm (UTC)(link)
especially the addiction thing

I very nearly asked you to beta that part of the rant, because - this is scary - I've read so many stories in which that happens (By good writers! Who do their research!) that I was starting to doubt myself. Like, what if I was just weird? And everyone I've ever known who was on pain meds was also weird, in precisely the same way? And also the professors and doctors I've known who taught me on that subject? And also all the research I did for my dad?

And then I got a grip on myself. But that is how pervasive it is in fan fiction - it's like we have medical fanon now.

But, um, can't someone drop a kiss on the top of someone's head or something? Every once in a while?

For you? Of course.

*waves hand majestically and makes it so*

(And actually that isn't the use that really bugs me; it's when, say, Rodney drops kisses all over John's face and neck. It just - it sounds weird. I keep waiting for lips to go flying. But when it's just a single kiss, I'm better with it. Hmmm. Probably I really am weird.)

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[identity profile] tangleofthorns.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
BWAH. FUCKING. HAH.

The only cutesy pairing name I like? Is the one we invented for Snape/Karkaroff--Snarkaroff. Come on. It's like a sarcastic Russian vodka.

But I agree with you so so much that I can't even find the words.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
*snerk* Snarkaroff is pretty good. A while back, someone ran a joke pairing name contest, and the names were like that - quite funny. But now I have this lingering fear that we'll see some of them used seriously at some point.

But I agree with you so so much that I can't even find the words.

*basks*

[identity profile] ficbyzee.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I love you for this rant. So very, very much. And now I want an SGA or SG-1 story where one of the male characters gets hoodwinked by an alien so that they speak only in purple prose. I want that fic really badly. Curse you.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes! Write that fic! Right now! *wavy hands* Now now now!

Because, oh, that would be so great.

[identity profile] pinkpolarity.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
As someone who takes Oxycontin for chronic pain, THANK YOU for number six. There's one fandom I won't go anywhere near because these misconceptions are so rampant that I have to work to restrain myself from beating people with my prescription bottles. :)

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm guessing that's House, yes? Because if it isn't, you should, um, probably avoid House fan fiction. Some of it is great, but there are some very widespread problems with the way people view pain meds in that fandom.

And just in general, fandom has some issues with pain medication, never mind the management of chronic pain. Yeesh.

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[identity profile] azewewish.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 03:58 pm (UTC)(link)
These rants are the reason I read LJ.

Can we get the message about the cutesy nicknames to People & Star & US magazines, too? Because if I have to see one more Brangelina or Vaughniston or TomKat reference in a supposedly LEGITIMATE publication, I may join you in your killing spree.

Not that it, y'know, annoys me.

And, ditto on everything else you said. *nods*

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Because if I have to see one more Brangelina or Vaughniston or TomKat reference in a supposedly LEGITIMATE publication, I may join you in your killing spree.

I. I. I have never seen any of those names before, and my brain is broken now. I will never be the same. I am experiencing massive pain and anguish, here. Until now, I'd thought the media got over that back with whatever horrible name they called Ben Affleck and Jennifer Lopez.

*shudders*

*arms self*

*makes mental note to start killing spree with entertainment journalists*

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[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/_unhurt_/ 2006-01-18 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
essence always, always makes me think of 'barbarella' - the scene with the giant hookah. inside the round glass bit (non-technical term) of said hookah there is a youngish chap in bits of leather gear wallowing in water. the foxy (and evil) ladies smoking it offer it to barbarella and describe it as "essence of man".

i rather like this film, btw.

(also, i feel kirk/spock smushes best into kock)

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 08:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I have never seen Barbarella, and I can tell I've missed something.

*saunters over to Netflix*

(also, i feel kirk/spock smushes best into kock)

Oh, I entirely agree. And yet, when you see people using portmanteaus for that pairing, it's usually Spirk. Which is just totally missing a trick.

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[identity profile] midnitemaraud-r.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 04:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I believe they go by "Harmonians" but I see it sporked as "Harmoanians".

Yes, it's stupid. But the media did it with Bennifer (the first Jennifer - heh) and Branjelina and whatever other stupid shit they think is oh so clever but is eye-sporkingly annoying. So we can either blame Buffy fandom or J Lo and Ben Affleck.

And he could have said "purple-headed custard chucker". I've always liked that one.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I have learned a lot about the origins of pairing portmanteaus in these comments, and most of it is very disturbing. Like, I had never heard Brangelina before the comment before this one, and, really, I just - the entertainment media must be stopped. By any means necessary.

*dies a little, just from the shame of typing that hideous, hideous portmanteau*

And I think I'll choose to blame Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck. They seem, um, worthy of it. In any case, I have ceased to blame HP; I see now that that fandom was as much a victim as any of us. (Harmonians. *shudders*)

And he could have said "purple-headed custard chucker".

Wow. That would make a fabulous LJ name. If it wasn't too long, I'd register it myself.

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[personal profile] jamoche 2006-01-18 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Somewhere out there is a safe-sex website with animated humanoid cocks. Giant cocks, with faces, arms, legs, the works (though possibly not tiny cocks). It's possible they kiss, but I've managed to forget most of what I saw there so if anyone finds it, I'd rather not know.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
You know, when I first read your comment, I was all disappointed that you didn't have a link to that site. And then I asked myself, "Do you really want to see animated cocks practicing safe sex?"

The answer to that question is no. Pretty much eternally and forever no.

So instead let me offer you my sincere condolences on your traumatic experience - I mean, my god, you're cheerfully browsing, just clicking along, and then BANG! You're suddenly watching anthropomorphic cocks with human features having safe sex. I myself would likely need therapy after such an event.

Cocks. With faces. And legs.

*is riveted by the sheer horror of it*

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[identity profile] out-there.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Sucking brains out through cocks is just not on, people. You may be undead, but you can still have class.

*dies so much*

High-gauge painkillers are not instantaneously addictive.

When you mentioned that, I was so hoping that was bad House fiction you were reading (because, yeah, high pain level but *also* a canonical acceptance that he's a high-functioning addict) and then as I kept reading, I realised, "No, no. Not House." which is even more frightening.

I'm also wondering if I should have bitched less about the whole "getting McKay off the Wraith serum" as the supposedly life-threatening withdrawal thing seemed to be over within a few hours. I mean, they could have made it a Huge Thing and that would probably make me bitch more.

You won't like it when I'm batshit insane and armed, people, and I'm getting there.

And if people continue with the cutesy pairing names, I think you have a right. But, first, please feel free to go after the damn tabloid journalists who keep making the whole "smooshed name" thing a mainstream insanity. (Bennifer, anyone? Brangelina? Can we stop it *now*? Please?)
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[personal profile] brownbetty 2006-01-18 05:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Word. I threw up in my mouth a little the first time I read Brangelina on a pulped paper product.

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[identity profile] cherryice.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 04:37 pm (UTC)(link)
The next time someone invents a smooshed up cutesy pairing name, I think I am going to rip their face off. In a completely nice, polite way of course.

How do you feel about change of tense to delineate past and present? I feel it's an effect tool, and not just because I myself use it. I agree that sections (and, for the love of god, sentences) should remain in the same tense, but if you're using two story lines, section by section, and one is in the past and one is in the present, I find it actually makes it more clear to alter the tenses thusly.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The next time someone invents a smooshed up cutesy pairing name, I think I am going to rip their face off.

Please record this blessed event in some manner, so it can be shared with fans everywhere.

How do you feel about change of tense to delineate past and present? I feel it's an effect tool, and not just because I myself use it.

It absolutely can be used to good effect; you used it very well in Six to Eight Months, for example. (And probably elsewhere, but that's the one I remember off the top of my head.) But that's deliberate tense switching, and - okay, I wasn't at all clear about this in the post, but I was talking about accidental tense switching. Mostly we see accidental switching in fan fiction; a lot of people do not track tenses very well when they're writing - it's hard to do - and the result is these random tense changes.

But if they aren't random - if it's done deliberately, and with awareness of the effect it will have reader - it can work really well. It's just, doing that is jarring; it's always jarring. So there needs to be a reason for it, a change in the story that matches the change in tense. (And, as you said, the most common and obvious change is time stuff.) I've even seen a story written in past, present, and future; it was brilliant. The author was playing with time and human perception of time, and the tense switches were the perfect - um, textual special effect? does that make sense? - for that.

But, yeah, sorry. I was not meaning to dump on legitimate use of tense switching as a storytelling tool. Just on not paying attention to tenses.

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[identity profile] diluvian.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 04:50 pm (UTC)(link)
wondering if the character giving the blowjob is really a secret zombie. (Worse, I sometimes also consider the physics of this, which is the kind of thought that can put a person off sex for life.)

God, yes.

My own personal hate-on variant is, "Gonna fuck [preposition of choice] brains out."

This... is not sexy at all, to me.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
My own personal hate-on variant is, "Gonna fuck [preposition of choice] brains out.

Oh my god no. Ew ew ew.

Fortunately, I don't see that one as much, because it presents this very unfortunate, literal image of, um...you know, I won't even go there. It's a kindness to us both, I think.

*gags quietly but sincerely*

[identity profile] seperis.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 04:51 pm (UTC)(link)
*silent, awed worship*

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
Well, if you're going to be worshipping me anyway, you should know that the traditional offering is porn. Yup. Porn.

*doe eyes of profound hopefulness*
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[identity profile] kitestringer.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
If come is the essence of a man, he's not worth thinking about, let alone writing about. And if someone is touching someone else's essence, you'd better be writing Descartes/Schopenhauer and not just some random buttsex.

That's the best thing ever. I think I want to have it tattooed somewhere.

NO MORE CUTSEY PAIRING NAMES EVER I MEAN IT SO HELP ME GOD.

OH GOD PLEASE MAKE IT STOP. I'm still trying to figure out the origin of "sparky." I mean, I know that it means Sheppard/Weir (right?), but I still don't get *why*.

[identity profile] shrift.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm still trying to figure out the origin of "sparky." I mean, I know that it means Sheppard/Weir (right?), but I still don't get *why*.

I'm pretty sure it's because when they have scenes together, there are... sparks.

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[identity profile] harriet-spy.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't care if you write your fan fiction in Past Inverted Pluperfect Imperative (actually, I would very likely erect a shrine in your honor), as long as you stay in Past Inverted Pluperfect Imperative.

Hmmm. Are you taking a stance anti-"Ghosts?" Because I think a lot of folks would not line up with you on that one.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 02:38 am (UTC)(link)
Um. Well, no. See, I'm not sure what "Ghosts?" is.

*helpless look*

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[identity profile] cetpar.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 05:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Your rant is hysterically funny. And I hope that everyone takes it to heart.

"Was" and "is" are cousins, but they should not hang out together; their families do not get along. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.
Amen.

And if I never see another drug addiction story in SGA, I'll be a happy camper. Except Enzyme!Stories--they're in a different category for me.


[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
And if I never see another drug addiction story in SGA, I'll be a happy camper. Except Enzyme!Stories--they're in a different category for me.

Oh, enzyme stories are most definitely good things. Well, I mean, they gave us the whole enzyme plot; they might as well have just held up a sign saying, "Fan fiction writers, now is your time to shine." And what I say is, if the canon writers are hell-bent on providing us with all the addiction potential that we'll ever need, why bring mere earth drugs into it? Pegasus Galaxy laughs at your simple, humble morphine! It openly mocks hydrocodone! It spits in the face of Tylenol #3!

Okay, it's late and I'm loopy. But you know what I mean, anyway.

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[personal profile] brownbetty 2006-01-18 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
May I just admit I have a problem with 'ecstasy' in sex scenes? I keep on flashing on St. Julian of Norwich receiving revelations. Very possibly just me, I will admit.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 02:58 am (UTC)(link)
I have to admit I've never thought about St. Julian of Norwich while reading fan fiction. But I sure will now. Thanks ever so.

Although I kind of have the same problem. I think the deal is that ecstasy is pegged, in my mind, as being something purer than orgasm - and I mean pure in the sense of distilled. Like, I view ecstasy as a direct hit to the pleasure center, with no mediation from, you know, body parts or other areas of the brain.

Of course, another part of the problem is that, at least in my experience, "ecstasy" in sex scenes often coincides with screaming and passing out and so on, and I'm not so fond of those. Also, 60% of all FF writers appear to believe that it is spelled "extasy" or "ecstacy" or whatever, and nothing will dissuade them. Doesn't help at all.

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[identity profile] acostilow.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
This was fantastic. I even agree with most points, which is even better.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you! And agreement isn't required, but it's nice; that way, when I am Ruler of the Universe (my application is pending), it will be a peaceful and happy universe.

*is pleased*

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[personal profile] sweetestdrain 2006-01-18 05:59 pm (UTC)(link)
After reading this rant and a few of your past ones (and laughing and nodding like a MANIAC at EVERYTHING), I have decided I want to be you when I grow up. Just thought I'd let you know.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 02:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! Um, will it be a problem that I don't know what I want to do when I grow up?

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[identity profile] isika.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 06:04 pm (UTC)(link)
1. Try the DSM-IV-TR, it's the most recent addition
2. Sucking out someones brain out through their cock....owie...that has to be one of the least hot things I come accross in bad porn
3. As for the pain killer bit, I 100% agree. if you don't know do a little research, do NOT make shit up.
4. The cutsy name thing that leaves most of us guessing as to what pairing we are actually reading about is pointless and annoying.

you are the forst person to not only really point this out but in an amusing and intilligent manor

[identity profile] m-butterfly.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 04:37 am (UTC)(link)


I actually think the problem lies with the fact that a good 80-90% of the time, the author thinks they do know. They've been raised up in this thing that tells them Drugs are Bad, Mkay? Painkillers are bad and ADDICTIVE! Look at Rush Limbaugh! And so on and so forth. Yeah, good research matters a lot and would cure many ills, but before you can get someone doing research you have to have them aware they even need to.

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[identity profile] whatdanidigs.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
"sucking his brains out through his cock."

Always gives me this adult cartoon literal vision of that phrase that disturbs me to the core.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 02:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Always gives me this adult cartoon literal vision of that phrase that disturbs me to the core.

*shudders*

I'm right there with you. Eeeeeee.
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[identity profile] sara-merry99.livejournal.com 2006-01-18 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay, I was laughing out lout at that and my husband was looking at me like I was nuts.

Thanks so much, I've got tears in my eyes from laughter!!


[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 02:42 pm (UTC)(link)
You're very welcome!

my husband was looking at me like I was nuts.

Oh, yeah, I've been there. The "Um...you were sane when I married you" look is sort of endemic amongst the spouses of fans, I think. That and the "I hate you for making me see slashiness in this beloved childhood memory" look.

They need a livejournal community of their own, really. fan_spouse_support or something.

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