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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2006-01-18 02:31 pm
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Rant: Is There a DSM-IV Category for Fan Fiction Induced Insanity?

I haven't been sleeping much lately. This means I've reading a lot of FF. (Yes, even more than usual. But, on the bright side, not quite enough to qualify me for an intervention at the Fan Mental Health Clinic.) Which means that it's time for another damn rant. (If you're new here: in rants, the cut tag indicates mean-spiritedness and general pedantry. Click at your own risk.)

I swear that I will get back to recommending actual FF very, very soon. And it will be even sooner if we could all attend to a few small matters before I lose my mind.



Sentients only, please. Or, to put it another way: could we please stop granting quite so much volition to individual body parts? By which I mean - if you're writing something, like for example a sex scene, and character A shoves his tongue into character B's mouth, please don't write as though the tongue just crawled in there on its own. If you write, "his tongue reached for hers," I'm expecting tentacle porn, okay? I'm expecting Alien-based horror tentacle porn, as, like, the tongue spears into her mouth, implants her with eggs, and then rips her brain out. I'm not thinking, "Aw, they're kissing. How sweet." I am writhing in anticipation of looming terror. And, yes, fear does lead to arousal blah blah blah, but alien implantation scenes in the middle of smut lead to insanity. Attribute the action to the person performing it. At least most of the time. I'm begging you.

Zombies need brains! I, on the other hand, think I'm seeing too many of them. Or rather, I'm seeing too much of the phrase "sucking his brains out through his cock." I mean, yes, I get it. I got the last few thousand times someone used this phrase in FF. And it's starting to sound...well, creepy. Eerie. Like a really mutant zombie-related fetish, basically. I'll be reading along in a sex scene, and this phrase will occur, and I have this moment of nervous tension, wondering if the character giving the blowjob is really a secret zombie. (Worse, I sometimes also consider the physics of this, which is the kind of thought that can put a person off sex for life.) So, you know, it's a fine phrase. But could we give it a rest, please? Let it lie fallow for a bit? Or maybe we could implement some kind of rationing system. You know, a quota. On Mondays, people whose names begin with A-E can use it, and on Tuesdays F-J, and so on. On Sundays we all get a day of rest from the phrase. What blissful Sundays those would be.

You do not drop kisses. Go ahead, try it. You will find your lips remain firmly attached to your face no matter how hard you try to drop them on someone else. Or if they don't, you might want to see a doctor. You may be a zombie. (If so, try to get your fix the normal way. Gnawing on people's skulls was enough for zombies when I was young, and there's no need to get all fancy with it now. Sucking brains out through cocks is just not on, people. You may be undead, but you can still have class.)

Oh my god no more essence ever I mean it. If come is the essence of a man, he's not worth thinking about, let alone writing about. And if someone is touching someone else's essence, you'd better be writing Descartes/Schopenhauer and not just some random buttsex.

You need lips to kiss. So, take cocks, for example. They do not have lips and thus should not kiss each other. You would not write a story in which cocks hold hands and go on a picnic and declare love for each other and maybe whisper sweet nothings in each other's ears. The kissing cock is just the PG-13 version of that story, people. (Or potentially a quaint and curious pub name soon to appear on the cover of a Martha Grimes novel. Unless somebody stops her while there's still time. Not that I am suggesting anything, mind you.)

Forget the lies your health teacher told you. High-gauge painkillers are not instantaneously addictive. Seriously. I have taken them, and I am not a twitching addict. And going off them was not so much "hideous withdrawal" as "Hey! I can blink again!" See, if you’re taking them for actual, you know, pain, they aren’t very addictive at all. (Physical dependence does happen when you take them for a while. Which is why you taper off. Tapering off? Does not suck if you do it right.) If you’ve had, say, massive surgery to repair massive injuries and you’re on a massive pain-relief regimen as a result, yes, you will want those drugs if they’re taken away from you. But not because you’ve become addicted to them. You’ll want them because without them you’ll be in pain.

I know that seems kind of obvious. I thought so, too. But I’ve seen this more and more often in FF: a character takes - well, let’s go whole-hog and say oxycodone, the ingredient in that famously addictive drug, OxyContin. (Although even then, you take it differently for a high than for pain. Just, you know, FYI.) Takes it because, you know, he’s had his face ripped off or something (and that’s a made-up example; I’ve never read a story in which it happened, so if you’ve written one, I’m not picking on you). And he's on it for four days, and then the doctor starts "weaning" him off it, and he suffers the agonies of withdrawal. Well, OK. Withdrawal sucks, no doubt. But that character shouldn’t be going through it; he should be suffering the agonies of plain old agony, of being undermedicated by a supposed professional after having his face ripped off by the Clawbeast of the Betelgeusian Rainforest. (Or whatever.) Please, people, please - let’s keep our sick bay stories and our addiction stories separate, OK? There’s plenty of medically realistic suffering you can inflict. Without making every fan on the planet terrified of taking medication for pain.

What happens in the past stays in the past. Likewise with the future and the present. Pick a tense. Any tense. And then fucking stay with it. I don't care if you write your fan fiction in Past Inverted Pluperfect Imperative (actually, I would very likely erect a shrine in your honor), as long as you stay in Past Inverted Pluperfect Imperative. And if just one tense per story is too confining for you, at least limit yourself to one tense per section. And oh my god please one tense per sentence. "Was" and "is" are cousins, but they should not hang out together; their families do not get along. Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Appropriate terminology. I don't want to be difficult. But is it so very challenging to consider what phrases your point-of-view character might reasonably use in, for example, a sexual setting? I mean, okay. Benton Fraser might use just about any word, including the Inuktuk word for "icicle," to describe his cock. With Fraser, I'm prepared to accept any term up to "Winky the Wonder Horse," and I'm betting some of you could make me happy with that, even. But if you've got a modern-day American military man using the phrase "manly rod," I am going to need, minimum, 2,000 words of backstory that explains how Jack O'Neill, in addition to the rest of his traumatic past, was at some point locked in a basement for three years with nothing to read but old romance novels.1

NO MORE CUTSEY PAIRING NAMES EVER I MEAN IT SO HELP ME GOD. And, yes, capslock is a crime against the internet, but sometimes it is impossible to convey the proper level of emphasis any other way. This is one of those times. I blame the more insane Harry/Hermione folks for this one. (...And, damn, I've forgotten the pairing name again. Hermeneutics? Harmonica? Help me out here, people.) But we all share the shame now, as the disease has spread to fandoms that should be innocent of any such taint. And, see, fine. If you really need to run the names of your pairing together (Although, seriously - why? It doesn't prove they were OMG meant to be together, you know. What message are you trying to convey? Theirloveissonominal?), then go right ahead. I may judge you - tough to avoid it these days, what with all the pairing name insanity going around - but I'll keep it to myself. It is your privilege to come up with mutant pairing names if you want to. It is your right.

But please, please, please, for the love of all that is holy, at least keep it relatively clear what the pairing actually is. If you tell me that you love Vecchowalski, at least I have a reasonable guess about what that might be. But if you tell me that you love Rayre, or Hooray, or Ski-Ho, that could be anything. And if you decide that Vecchio/Kowalski is now called Chicago, that is even worse. It conveys no useful information at all. (Well, okay. Some. I mean, I'd be thinking in terms of the right fandom; there are pairing names that don't even have that going for them.) Please. Please. It is wrong to make every story header an interminable guessing game. ("...Is the pairing bigger than a bread box?") You won't like it when I'm batshit insane and armed, people, and I'm getting there.

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1 Daniel's eyebrows shot up, and Jack mentally rewound the conversation. Shit.

"Jack," Daniel said cautiously, "did you just say 'pistoning love-muscle'?"

"No," Jack said firmly.

"Oooo-kay." There was an uncomfortable pause, and then Daniel said, very casually, "So. I'm going to get Sam and Teal'c and Janet now. You just...sit there."

"Daniel, sit down."

"I would, but now I'm not sure if I'm eating lunch with Jack O'Neill or the Goa'uld who was responsible for Barbara Cartland's incredible and disturbing productivity."

"Sit down, Daniel. And don't knock Barbara Cartland."

Daniel didn't move, but his eyebrows attempted to scurry off his face and go find Sam and Teal'c on their own.

Jack sighed. "Okay. See, when I was 26, I was on this mission..."

[identity profile] trustanti.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I've realized that everything is much funnier to me when I have a cold but that was, like, consistent giggling. It probably would have been laughter if I'd had enough oxygen to spare for that but as it is I keep forgetting that I'm not able to, like, eat and breathe at the same time.

And extra points for the withdrawal thing because - because yes. Besides being damn sick of people bringing up addiction and looking at me funny if they hear I'm on anything for my various pain issues, I want to throw things when I read, like, the face-ripping stories and everyone's all 'Oh, god, Johnny's addicted!' when Johnny has not even stopped bleeding yet. Like, dude, he lost his face. He's in pain. Let him have the Vicodin, he won't explode or anything.

Adding you (which your Info says is okay! *handwave*) because I have caught on to the fact that I do not, in fact, have to just refresh your journal all the time, but can actually add it to my flist like all the other things that live there in one convenient place-setting.

Also I like your recs and writing and you're swell. *hides*

[identity profile] m-butterfly.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)


I almost want to collect everybody in fandom with chronic pain and put them all in a box where we can grump together about everybody else.

Fortunately, I am well aware this would probably end in us trying to kill each other.

[identity profile] ladyivy.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
Followed [livejournal.com profile] sara_merry99 here, and OMG am I glad I did. You do rants like this often? Going to add you to my fl right freaking NOW dammit. B/c this was just 1) way too funny, and 2) way too accurate. Esp. as someone who reads both SG-1 and DS.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-20 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Hi! And welcome! And thanks! And such! (Sorry. Don't know what happened there. It's so easy for exclamation points to get out of hand, isn't it?)

But in the interests of full disclosure, I must tell you that I don't rant all that often. (You can find past ones using the tag links in my sidebar; I'd grab the link for you myself but LJ is being a total bitch right now.) Pretty much only when I'm driven to it; otherwise, this LJ is recs and stuff, and the "stuff" part is fairly occasional.

Esp. as someone who reads both SG-1 and DS.

*loves on SG1*

*loves on dS even more, if such a thing is possible*

[identity profile] ozratbag2.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 04:11 am (UTC)(link)
Here via [livejournal.com profile] writers_orgasm

I loved your post, though had to consciously think if I'd made any of the boo boos in the past. *wipes brow relieved that if I have, none of them are on your list...thankfully!*

I loved the visual of two penises wandering off on a picnic. Am waiting for someone to write it as either bad!fic or parody. Either way, it would be very funny.

"sucking his brains out through his cock."

Eww, though my inner anatomist wonders if they wouldn't suck his testicles out first...

The Electrolux Blowjob - seen in so many fics, that it's a wonder vacuum cleaners the world over haven't got a complex about their lack of sucking power.

...FF: a character takes - well, let’s go whole-hog and say oxycodone, the ingredient in that famously addictive drug, OxyContin.

And, they never seem to realise that it's a slow release drug either. Must be an awfully slow buzz they're getting. Endone, though; as one variety of Oxycontin is known here, is not enteric coated, and does work more quickly. It's usually administered more regularly too - and usually it's the one administered 'other' ways for a buzz.

It never ceases to amaze me that they write of these things being addictive, the buzz, the pain of withdrawl, etc, etc, but never the other less common name, Oxycon[s]t[ipat]in...

Could their pain really be caused just by being blocked up to their eyeballs? :p

[identity profile] m-butterfly.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 04:50 am (UTC)(link)


*voice of experience* Fandom only does side-effects when they're sexy or good for h/c. Which means that anti-depressants never have any. How's that for impressive?

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[identity profile] m-butterfly.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 04:54 am (UTC)(link)


Well, there is that one Booster/Blue Beetle fic (http://community.livejournal.com/boostle/36125.html). (It's a pairing with a lot of zombiefic, really. Even I did it (http://www.livejournal.com/users/m_butterfly/90002.html) once, and I'm not really a zombiefic kind of person. I got a really great Dead Like Me idea once, but then realized she was probably totally immolated by that falling space toilet seat, so it probably wouldn't work.)

On a related note, something occurred to me recently. I totally agree with you on pairing portmanteaux. So why on earth has Boostle never bothered me?




I think all my responses to this have ended up in replies to other comments.
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[identity profile] kageygirl.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
So why on earth has Boostle never bothered me?

Because it sounds really funny when you say it aloud? *g*

[identity profile] shealynn88.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, this is just too funny. TOO FUNNY! :) I'm still giggling.

Okay, I'll stop. Now I have to run and look at my new porny fics, which I've just started writing, and make sure I have not commited fandom sin. :)

And I have to say, as much as those cutsie pairing names are annoying...they are funny as hell. My husband actually sat around and made up names for odd pairings. I now have to write Buffy and Willow, just so I can call it (wait for it...)

Buffillow. ::Giggles madly::

Okay, well, I thought it was funny.

Anyhow, overall--thanks for the reality check.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-20 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Buffillow.

That is sick and bad and wrong. And also, um, kind of funny.

Now I have to run and look at my new porny fics, which I've just started writing, and make sure I have not commited fandom sin.

Well, you know, I'm not, like, the porn version of Strunk and White. (Although, oh my god, that would be the best job ever.) You are under no obligation to listen to me! But if you just want to, you will not see me arguing. Nope. If elected, I will gladly serve.

*prepares to kiss whatever it is you kiss to get elected Porn Dictator (hee!)*

[identity profile] justacat.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 06:41 am (UTC)(link)
Or rather, I'm seeing too much of the phrase "sucking his brains out through his cock."

I'm a bit late to the party here, but I have to add another: if I see "swallowed him whole" one more time I'm going to have a conniption. I've started getting images of Harry (or whomever) with an entire cock (or maybe even an entire Snape *g*) nestled cozily in his stomach, or maybe stuck in his esophagus, like a snake swallowing a whole pig or something, while Snape looks down, horrified, at the empty space between his legs.

This one is really starting to make me twitch....

(And I'm here via [livejournal.com profile] metafandom; this is a riot!)

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-20 06:06 pm (UTC)(link)
if I see "swallowed him whole" one more time I'm going to have a conniption.

Okay, this is seriously amusing to me, because I initially talked about that in the rant, too. I cut it because I figured one oral sex description peeve was enough. But I so totally agree. I always end up thinking of that song we sang when we were little kids: "I'm being swallowed by a boa constrictor/and I don't like it very much." Instead of "Oh, gee, he's up to my knee," I expect to hear, "Oh, fuck, he's swallowed my cock."

Worse, it leaves me with disturbing unanswered questions. Like, do you normally have the cock in pieces during a blowjob? And, uh, how do you get the cock back out again after you've swallowed it whole? And, see, these are not thoughts that are conducive to reading about sex.

In short, I wholeheartedly support the No More Swallowing Cocks Whole movement. Where do I sign?

(Thanks, by the way, for telling me where you came from; I love it when people do that. And as long as I'm expressing gratitude, let me also thank you for the Circuit Archive, which I love and which must have been a bundle of work to create (and more on top of that to maintain). It's a fabulous resource, and one of the few anywhere that reaches back into the pre-internet days of fandom.)

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[identity profile] kungfunurse.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
Hola Ms. Vine. I've just discovered your LJ through a friend, and I wanted to drop you a line and say, well, hello. But in English, I guess. *waves* I'm gonna friend you so that I can keep an eye on your present and future rants, if that's cool. Thanks for thinking edgy thoughts and sharing them with the rest of us. *g*

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-20 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
But in English, I guess.

Probably for the best. My Spanish is limited to a few basic words and some swearing. Oh, and I can also say, "The chicken says." (I'm totally monolingual, but I know stupid phrases in many languages. I can, for example, tell you that I'm an octopus in Japanese and that I'm an eggplant in Turkish. So I can be certain that if I ever get lost in a foreign country, I'll be locked up for my own protection. Yay me!)

I'm gonna friend you so that I can keep an eye on your present and future rants, if that's cool.

It is extremely cool. (Well, at least in my opinion. But keep in mind that I'm a dork, geek, and nerd - pretty much the loser trifecta, there - so you might not want to listen to me on that one.) Welcome! And thanks for saying hello.

[identity profile] hjcallipygian.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 06:52 am (UTC)(link)
I would still have you friended and read your journal religiously if this was the only type of entry you ever made. Just, you ranting about grammar and language and diction. That's it. And I'd be happy.

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2006-01-20 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Your icon is wonderful.

Just, you ranting about grammar and language and diction. That's it. And I'd be happy.

You'd be insane. My serial comma rant alone has driven people mad, and when I get going on commas as a whole, well, there is just no stopping me, no matter how much you weep and beg.

I'm also pretty irascible when it comes to semicolons. And apostrophes. I'm the Cantankerous Punctuation Defender, basically.

And you don't ever want to get me started on infer, imply, presently, and momentarily. I'm just - I'm not myself when I'm ranting about that. It's like, you know how Angel turns to Angelus? That's me. The soulless grammar vamp.

another fine rant

[identity profile] auburnnothenna.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
Like you need another comment on this. Over 200 already? You win some kind of prize.

Meanwhile, I've learned my lesson. I set my hot cocoa down and said to myself, "Self, let the cocoa cool while you read this rant." This is because I didn't want to burn my tongue, but even more, I didn't want to snort hot cocoa through my nose all over the monitor and keyboard.

A wise, wise decision.

Along with the kissing cocks (let's hope they don't catch mono, too), one of my peeves is 'duelling tongues'. My mind goes to pistols at dawn. Do the tongues arrive at the field of honor with their seconds on a foggy morning or what? Don't they know it's illegal?

If course, Martha Grimes needs to write a new book called The Kissing Cock, where in Melrose and Richard just go ahead an sleep together and don't bother us with another impenetrable plot.

Finally, I hope you'll forgive E and me for the monster when the tense changes after the first part and then changes again at the third part. I swear we thought we were being clever.

I'm off now to finish my cocoa and read the damn thing again in search of wandering body parts sans brains.

[identity profile] norah.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
So much love, as usual. Still internationally pining for you and can not, after all, come down in late January. Which saddens me.

*hugs*

And this, as I see four pages of comments have probably already informed you, is an excellent rant. Or series of rants. To all of which I say, "hear, hear!" Note that I do not say, "here, here," because I am not a character in badfic.

[identity profile] kindkit.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 10:00 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmmm. Most of this I agree with. But for the life of me, I don't see what's wrong with "dropped kisses." It seems like a perfectly good semi-metaphorical phrase to me. If I was seeing it in every fanfic, it would start to annoy me, but I haven't seen it all that often.

In the interests of full disclosure, I must say that I have used the phrase myself.

[identity profile] noneeca.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
i haven't the time to go through every single comment to see if she's already been recommended, but darling, have you checked out Holy Mother Grammatica? she is our dear Lady, whose rants are on par with thine own. except usually about the OMGSOANNOYING things like using the word 'corroded' instead of 'carotid' when writing about an artery or something. the issues that just jar you right out of your comy reading space, and make at least my friends and i go right off our gourds.

so. Holy Mother Grammatica. http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Hills/9414/hmg1.html
have fun!
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[identity profile] elbomac.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 12:30 pm (UTC)(link)
And he's on it for four days, and then the doctor starts "weaning" him off it, and he suffers the agonies of withdrawal.

Or, you know, withdrawl.
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[identity profile] ladycat777.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
*busts a gut laughing*

I actually do some of the things you mentioned but I like to think I do them well and not in every story ever omgamen!. So yeah :)

*cries with laughter*

[identity profile] qe2.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 09:20 pm (UTC)(link)
-Footnote-

So you will be writing this story, right? Right? Because this is such a perfect start...

[identity profile] fourteenlines.livejournal.com 2006-01-19 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I just have a huge Oh Lord, Yes for all of this. Every last item.

(Though someone is totally going to write a story about two cocks going on a date now, just you watch.)

[identity profile] erjika.livejournal.com 2006-01-20 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Um, hi. I love you? Except for the fact that my throat hurts like hell from laughing silently (let sleeping parents lie). *grabs cough drops*

But seriously, you combine the beauty of humour and education and it's brilliant, so the love outweighs the aching throat. (and I too imagine the physics of 'sucking his brains out' and it scares me)

[identity profile] eaivalefay.livejournal.com 2006-01-21 12:43 am (UTC)(link)
This was great. :D Now I want to actually read a story with a classless zombie sucking out essence and brains through some unfortunate cock, possibly while said cock's owner was suffering through "withdrawl" after getting a terrible face injury from the Clawbeast of the Betelgeusian Rainforest. (For the record, I want to read it just to see it actually be done. Wouldn't it be rather hysterical? *grin*)

...but what I want to read even more is Jack explaining that particular mission to Daniel. *dies laughing* Oh dear god, that would be priceless.

[identity profile] justacat.livejournal.com 2006-01-21 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
I expect to hear, "Oh, fuck, he's swallowed my cock."

::snort!!::

And I've wondered the same things as you.... Is swallowing just a piece of the cock bad form? And how does one ... er ... use one's cock after it's been swallowed? Seems like whole-cock-swallowing might cut short one's sex life significantly! *g*

It *is* seriously amusing that you had it in your post originally - now I think you'll have to devote a separate post to it, so we can start our NMSC movement! :-D I'd begun to think maybe everyone else in the world thinks it's sexy except me, because I see it *so* much, even from authors who should know better ...

And ... thank you so much for your kind words about the archive. I'm always amazed when people know about it, for some strange reason! It is a huge amount of work, but it's truly a labor of love - I'm pretty obsessed! *g* - and it makes me really glad to know that people are using and enjoying it. The task of getting so many of the pre-internet stories scanned or typed or whatever and online has been the work of lots of dedicated fans; I like being able to play a role in that.

I'm also pretty thrilled that you read Pros! Maybe it's just that the Pros presence on LJ seems small to me, but I'm always oddly shocked (and happy!) to hear that someone on LJ whom I don't really know also reads it, even just a little bit ....

(I've also friended you; hope that's okay :-).
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[identity profile] sgac.livejournal.com 2006-01-22 06:53 am (UTC)(link)
I don't claim to have the ultimate answer or anything, but I first noticed the smooshed-together pairing names when Smallville came on the fandom stage. And there, they actually have a good reason for existing because everyone's initial is either C or L. Within that fandom I find it perfectly acceptable. But Spuffy makes me gag.

[identity profile] flyingtapes.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know the Harry/Hermione portmanteau, but as I recall, the crazy really started with Smallville because "Clex" worked so easily. I mean, I cringe a little now, but it definitely got the big ball rolling. And while that wasn't pre-potter, it was before they got old enough to do stuff with in terms of pairings.

Also, a precursor for the whole portmanteau thing was in X-files, where Mulder/Scully was shortened to M/S and was pretty universally know; I think Spock/Kirk predates that, but M/S was a craze when fandom was on the internet and not just zines.

Spuffy (for Spike and Buffy) got pretty huge too, but SV started before Spike and Buffy became a widely shipped pairing, and so it was sort of a lateral move to Buffy from Smallville, who were on the same network and started out with similar baselines for fans.

I feel like a fandom historian. Actually, no, mostly I feel old. Five years!

[identity profile] flyingtapes.livejournal.com 2006-02-02 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and then I wanted to say: when the HP folks got involved, it started spiraling out of control, but even before HP, BtVS was taking it a little far, which is how we ended up with horrifying things like "Spangel."

[identity profile] tornyourdress.livejournal.com 2007-10-11 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
And if someone is touching someone else's essence, you'd better be writing Descartes/Schopenhauer and not just some random buttsex.

*snickers like mad*

(here via [livejournal.com profile] thatfangirl, and have just made my flatmates think I'm crazy by laughing out loud while reading this piece)

(Anonymous) 2008-01-26 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
"...Is the pairing bigger than a bread box?"

ROFL.

[identity profile] hivesofactivity.livejournal.com 2008-03-31 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I am skittering about lj, late to every fandom party, and a series of clicks led me to this. I just wanted to say that your footnote... well, I was actually physically bouncing around on my chair with delight!

*applause*

[identity profile] yuuko-uchiha.livejournal.com 2009-02-05 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
lol... what about Naruske???
hahahaha XD
I think I'm using it! XD

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