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Keep Hoping Machine Running ([personal profile] thefourthvine) wrote2008-03-22 12:36 pm

Help, friends list?

I need translations (in any language - I will totally welcome things like Elvish and Klingon, too) for the following five words:

Welcome

Read

Listen

Create

Explore

Any bilingual/multilingual people out there who like to help me out? You'll get - okay. You'll just get thanks. But they will be very sincere thanks.
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[personal profile] blackletter 2008-03-22 07:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Singular or plural imperative?

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[identity profile] sorciere.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Danish:

Welcome: Velkommen
Read: Læs (to read - at læse)
Listen: Lyt (to listen - at lytte)
Create: Skab (to create - at skabe, which is the best translation I can think of. It sounds a bit silly as just 'skab', which also means closet, but uh. Yeah. I haz cold.)
Explore: Udforsk (to explore - at udforske. Ditto for this. Sounds silly as an order-of-sorts, but it's the best I can think of)

Any other Danish-speakers are welcome to correct me - I'm at home with a cold so my brain really isn't at its best right now X.x

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
*beams*

Thank you so much!

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[personal profile] eledhwenlin 2008-03-22 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
German:

Welcome - Willkommen

Read - Lies!

Listen - Höre!

Create - eh, can of worms, actually. Create in which context? There are manifold translation depending on what you're creating. Most general one would be, IMHO, "Erschaffe".

Explore - Erkunde!/Erforsche! (although the second one is more like research)

[identity profile] neery.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, you beat me to it. ;)

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[identity profile] neery.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I can help you out with German, but I need more context than that. Do you just want the basic form of the verb?

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Just the basic form, yup, but I think [livejournal.com profile] eledhwenlin has German covered. Thank you, though!

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[identity profile] shadowvalkyrie.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You don't know me, but, well... I found your request browsing other people's f-list. (No, I have no life, why do you ask?)

Here's German imperative singular:

welcome = (sei) willkommen

read = lies

listen = hör zu

create = erschaffe

explore = erforsche

[identity profile] shadowvalkyrie.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, and more formal for "listen" would be "horche".

[identity profile] incidental-fire.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Here, have some Latin! (From [livejournal.com profile] accidentalfan, since you really wouldn't want to trust my Latin skills.)

Welcome: Salve (apparently there isn't an easy way to say "Welcome" in Latin, so that's "Hello")
Read: Lege
Listen: Audi
Create: Fac (to make), Crea (to make/elect/beget)
Explore: Explora

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! (And my Latin skills are likewise, um. I think "rusty" is too generous. Let's put it this way: my middle school Latin teachers weep.)

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Russian

[identity profile] sasha-davidovna.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome - Dobro pozhalovat'! (добро пожаловать!)

The rest of these are imperfective infinitive (basically, current or habitual actions).

(to) Read - Chitat' (читать)
(to) Listen - Slushat' (слушать)
(to) Create - Sozdavat' (probably) (создавать)
(to) Explore - Issledovat' (исследовать)
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oops, imperatives

[identity profile] sasha-davidovna.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Conveniently, all those verbs go imperative the same way, by replacing the -t' with -ay (singular informal) or -ayte (singular formal/plural). So,

chitat' -> chitay or chitayte (читай or читайте)

Imperfective imperative would be for general advice, repeated actions, etc.
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French

[identity profile] anatsuno.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome : Bienvenue

infinitive, as in 'to read, click here'? would be

Read : Lire
Listen : Ecouter
Create : Créer
Explore : Explorer

in French with the imperative you have to chose singular or plural, which is not based on 'do I address one person at once or several' but on 'do i adress one person casually or formally'? - this is a tough choice, which is why I think we mostly stick to the infinitive instead. but:

(imperative singular, aka the casual form)

Read: Lis
Listen: Ecoute
Create: Crée
Explore: Explore

(imperative plural, aka the formal choice for singular address)

Read: Lisez
Listen: Ecoutez
Create: Créez
Explore: Explorez

Re: French

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much!

Under the circumstances, I would go with the imperative plural, because it's formal. (In French, you address a person in the plural if you're being formal? Huh. Interesting. *has learned something*)

[identity profile] vienna-waits.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
German (I'm assuming the first word is a greeting, and I'm just using infinitives for the other four, not direct-address imperatives--if you want those instead, they're longer):
Willkommen
lesen
hören
schaffen
erkunden

If you provided more context about what you're doing with this (where you are posting this and for what target audience, what topic is being discussed, etc.), I might be able to give you a better translation. (Disclaimer: I am a professional translator. People's requests for all-purpose translations of words without context are probably why you end up with so many laughable translations on signs and the like. Translation without context often ends in tears. [/professional rant])

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you so much!

I hear you on the professional translator frustration (although, hey, you have an awesome job!), but, sadly, my knowledge of the intended context is limited. I'm assuming it will be for signs, you know, ones that say "Welcome!" (which is, indeed, intended to be a greeting) or "Read!" or whatever. Except in many languages.

[identity profile] deepsix.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
French:
Bienvenue
Lis
Écoute
Crée
Explore

[identity profile] deepsix.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Italian (though maybe don't quote me on this):
Benvenuto
Leggi
Ascolti
Crei
Esplori

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[identity profile] sevenall.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Swedish:

welcome = välkommen

read = läsa

listen = lyssna

create = skapa

explore = utforska

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Yay! And thank you so much!
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[identity profile] summertea.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome
Mandarin: huan(1) ying(2) (欢迎 huān yíng)
Japanese: youkoso (ようこそ)

Read
Mandarin: du(2) (shu(1)) (读书 dú shū) or nian(4) (shu(1)) (念书 niàn shū) ('shu' is literally 'book'. 'du' or 'nian' are the verbs. usage of 'shu' is dependent on the context.)
Japanese: yomu (to read, not conjugated) (読む)

Listen
Mandarin: ting(1) (听 tīng)
Japanese: kiku (to listen, not conjugated) (聞く)

Create
Mandarin: depending on the context, it's either chuang(4) zuo(4) (创作 chuàng zuò) or just zuo(4) (作 zuò)
Japanese: souzou suru (創造 する) (it's literally 'to cause to exist')

Explore
Mandarin: tan(4) xian(3) (探险 tàn xiǎn)
Japanese: tanken suru (to go on an expedition) (探検する), saguru (to investigate) (探る)
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[personal profile] athenejen 2008-03-22 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
And in traditional Chinese characters (as used in Taiwan and some overseas Chinese communities):

Welcome: 歡迎

Read: 讀

Listen: 聽

Create: 創作
[Definitely contextual; this version is specifically "create," with imagination implied, whereas zuo4 (作) by itself is a more general "do" or "make."]

Explore: 探險
[Also a bit contextual. This version (tan4xian3) is to explore in a sort of adventuresome way. If you want explore in a more investigative sort of way, then go with tan4suo3: 探索. I suspect the latter is more commonly used as well, but I'm not a native speaker so don't quote me on that.]

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[personal profile] ngaio 2008-03-22 08:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Welsh?

Welcome = Croeso

... I *should* know read, and listen. And my 7 year old daughter definitely does but it's past her bedtime! Sorry.

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Welsh would be awesome!

And I am very impressed with your daughter. *admires her*

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[identity profile] paceus.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
In Finnish:

Welcome - Tervetuloa
Read - Lue
Listen - Kuuntele
Create - Luo
Explore - Tutki

[identity profile] thefourthvine.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you! *admires*

(Are there supposed to be any marks or anything over any of the letters? I spent a great deal of time fighting with a Finnish website recently*, and there were, you know, marks on the letters there.

* To no very successful end. Apparently, if I want a replacement stylus for Best Beloved's internet tablet, I will have no choice but to send in a Finnish secret agent. Know any?)

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Dutch

Welcome = Welkom
Read = lees
Listen = luister
create = creëer
Explore = onderzoek (research), verken (discovery of unknown regions)
aurora: (SGA John Sleepy)

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*highfives you*

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[personal profile] aurora 2008-03-22 08:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Dutch:

Welkom
Lees
Luister
Creëer
Verken


ETA: I know how to say all that in Bulgarian as well, but I don't have the cyrillic alphabet installed on my laptop. Let me google around.

ETA2: Google ftw! Both transcribed and in Cyrillic:

Dobre doshli -- Добре дошли
Tcheti -- Чети
Slushai -- Слушаи
Napravi -- Направи
Otkrii -- Открий

I shall stop editing now. *ducks*

[identity profile] roga.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, those might be some of the hardest words to translate to Hebrew...

Welcome - baruch haba/brucha haba'ah (single male/single female, ברוכה הבאה/ברוך הבא). This is welcome as in "Welcome, sir". There isn't a verb (let alone imperative) for welcoming, other than tagid/i shalom - "say shalom".

Read - tikra/tikre'i (single male/single female, תקראי/תקרא ). Technically this is future tense, not imperative, but it works better. Otherwise it's kra/kre'i (קראי/קרא).

Listen - takshiv/takshivi (single male/single female, תקשיבי/תקשיב). Again, this is future tense, not imperative, which works better. Otherwise it's hakshev/hakshivi (הקשיבי/הקשב).

Create - titzor/titzri (תצרי/תיצור), same disclaimer as the previous two, otherwise it's tzor/tzri (צרי/צור). (There's also bra/bre'i, but that's create as in "God created", so I'm thinking that's a no.)

Explore - no exact translation. Closest words are:
tilmad/tilmedi (=learn, תלמדי/תלמד)
galeh/gali (discover, גלי/גלה)
chakor/chikri (=research, study, חקרי/חקור)

...and again, all of these are single, and either imperative or future. Which are weird in Hebrew. I could be more exact with context.

[identity profile] toft-froggy.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Um. Do you want Latin? Probably not, but here you go anyway.

Salvete

Legete

Audite

Create (or facete if you don't want it to look too like English)

Investigate (um, or explorate. That looks kind of wrong.)

Those are all polite-first-person-plural. But even though it's not strictly correct, singular looks cooler:

salve
lege
audi
fac/crea
investiga

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[personal profile] blackletter 2008-03-22 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Those are all polite-first-person-plural.

Second person plural imperative, actually. First person polite would have to be a Jussive/Hortatory Subjunctive. Like "Legamus"/"Let us read".

*can't stop the Latin teacher instincts...even during Spring Break*

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[identity profile] gurrier.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Irish:

Welcome: do you mean "Be welcome" or "Welcome someone"? The former is "Fáilte", the latter is "Cur fáilte roimh $person", literally "Put a welcome before $person".

Read: Léigh

Listen: Éist

Create: "Cruthaigh", or "Déan". The first is as in "God created the world", the latter more mundane, like "make".

Explore: "Taiscealaigh", which is exploring on land (you wouldn't use it to explore options, for instance), or "Cuardaigh", which is more just searching.

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I am constantly amazed at how much Irish isn't like Welsh...

When my mother (who is Irish) visited us, she was trying like mad to pronounce Welsh words, and to translate them according to what she thought they were, and it is utterly and completely different to Irish.

Welsh is more like Breton, apparently. I think Irish and Scots Gaelic are more similar to each other...

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[identity profile] greenet.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Norwegian (which is very close to the Danish, really)

Welcome: Velkommen
Read: Les
Listen: Lytt
Create: Skap/Lag (you'd 'skap' a piece of art, but 'lag' a house or something. But to be honest I'm not really happy with either. *shrugs*)
Explore: Utforsk

[identity profile] elizabeth perry (from livejournal.com) 2008-03-22 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Spanish:

welcome: bienvenida

read: lea

listen: escuche

explore: explore

create: cree

[identity profile] uufarmgirl.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Spanish (infinitive/singular informal imperative):

Welcome - !Bienvenidos!
Read - leer/lee
Listen - escuchar/escucha
Create - tough one... sembrar/sembra (literally to grow or seed)
Explore - explorar/explora, but buscar/busca might be better (literally to search or seek)

[identity profile] rex-dart.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I would think that the best basic one for create would just be crear/crea, and for explore I would definitely go with explorar/explora - buscar seems to call for a direct object, which makes it too specific.

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[identity profile] amireal.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome is easy, but the others-- you mean in first person singular? I read? I listen?

[identity profile] neery.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm wildly amused by the different assumptions we're all making here. I automatically assumed she wanted basic verb form, a bunch of people gave her the imperative, you're offering first person singular. English grammar is so awesomely imprecise.

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[identity profile] archant.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Maori:

Welcome - haere mai

Read - pānui

Listen - whakarongo

Create - hanga

Explore - toro
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[personal profile] jessikast 2008-03-22 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Phew! I was just thinking someone had to do Maori, but since I don't actually know anything more than what I was taught in primary school, I would have needed to resort to online dictionaries or something, and that way lies madness. And bad grammar.

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[identity profile] adina-atl.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Based on my English-Russian dictionary and rather old memories of Russian grammar:

Welcomes or greets, depending on case:
Приветствую/приветствуем (first person singular/first person plural)
Приветствайте (imperative)

Read:
читаю/читаем (first person singular/first person plural)
читайте (imperative)

Listen:
слушаю/слушаем
слушайте

Create:
создаю/создаем
создайте

Explore:
исследую/исследуем
исследайте

[identity profile] adina-atl.livejournal.com 2008-03-22 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
And...someone already answered while I was laborious working these out. Good! Because that let's me check my work.

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